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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
The price just went down. St. Louis likely gets it done if they replace Krug with a top D prospect in their org.
- Bufsaints8


If I'm St louis I'm not giving up Kyrou anymore when Matt will just sign here(st louis) next year
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
That's going to be a hard loss for the Flames, 2 very good players.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
That's going to be a hard loss for the Flames, 2 very good players.
- SABRES 89


Their roster looks badddd now

Maybe Monahan will return to form
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
That's going to be a hard loss for the Flames, 2 very good players.
- SABRES 89


They should tear the whole thing down and go for Bedard.

Get picks and prospects for Mangiapane and Lindholm to get them started along with the return for Tkachuk
SABRES 89
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Jul 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
Their roster looks badddd now

Maybe Monahan will return to form

- DirtyDan

That's hard for a GM and team to get through, can't say they didn't try.
SABRES 89
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Jul 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
They should tear the whole thing down and go for Bedard.

Get picks and prospects for Mangiapane and Lindholm to get them started along with the return for Tkachuk

- Pegullaville

Has to be more to this then what's being mentioned.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Has to be more to this then what's being mentioned.
- SABRES 89


Well Calgary does have the worst arena in the league. Council f'd them over reneging on that deal. Mixed with 2 star players wanting to play in or near home and generally not in Canada.

If Gaudreau stays I think Matt takes hard long look at staying as well. Once Johnny was gone there is no reason for Matt to stay.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
You confused Makar with Byram.

They finished dead last by 20 points and earned Makar.

Even with the Byram pick they acquired via trade, it was Matt Duchene they drafted 3rd overall.

The Avs were irrelevant for a decade and got a cup out of it.

Meanwhile Philly and Montreal have what to show for mediocrity ?

- Pegullaville

You’re right my fault
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:01 PM ET
The pick they drafted Makar was a trade

Kadri trade

Val - trade

Toews - trade

Compher - trade

Lehkonen- trade

Manson - trade

Drafted neither goalie

- sbroads24


And over half our current roster is trades and FAs…
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/johnny-gaudreau-nhl-hockey-calgary-flames-columbus-blue-jackets

Johnny Hockeys letter to Calgary.

- The_Inkwell



I commend him for his decision.

Fans tend to forget that athletes are people, too.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
I commend him for his decision.

Fans tend to forget that athletes are people, too.

- Powerslave


Guy was working out a deal with NJ and chose Columbus.... He made the wrong choice.

I commend him for being human. That's about it.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
Guy was working out a deal with NJ and chose Columbus.... He made the wrong choice.
- DirtyDan



Maybe his next letter will be to NJ"s fans 😂
SABRES 89
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Jul 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
Well Calgary does have the worst arena in the league. Council f'd them over reneging on that deal. Mixed with 2 star players wanting to play in or near home and generally not in Canada.

If Gaudreau stays I think Matt takes hard long look at staying as well. Once Johnny was gone there is no reason for Matt to stay.

- DirtyDan

I would include Cozens in a deal but not Quinn or JJ, no chance he comes here but just thought I Would mention.
DirtyDan
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Jul 20 @ 3:34 PM ET
I would include Cozens in a deal but not Quinn or JJ, no chance he comes here but just thought I Would mention.
- SABRES 89


Why everyone so low on Cozens?
SABRES 89
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Jul 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
Why everyone so low on Cozens?
- DirtyDan

I don;t see him more then a 3rd line player as of now, hope i'm wrong but........


All the teams he told the Flames he will go to don't have enough cap space to get him.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
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Jul 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
I don;t see him more then a 3rd line player as of now, hope i'm wrong but........


All the teams he told the Flames he will go to don't have enough cap space to get him.

- SABRES 89


I can only see him getting better from here on out, Couturier put up the #'s Cozens just put up for 6 seasons. Few of those seasons Couts was injured so if Dylan can stay away from that crap he'll progress greatly

If you don't think he'll improve over those 6 seasons then idk what to tell ya
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
Why everyone so low on Cozens?
- DirtyDan

No idea. He looks like a core piece to me
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
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Jul 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
No idea. He looks like a core piece to me
- sbroads24


If he tops out at a 50pt player ill be happy. He's gunna be a stud 2-way forward.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
If he tops out at a 50pt player ill be happy. He's gunna be a stud 2-way forward.
- DirtyDan

He has the career trajectory of a David Backes IMO.

Two way captain who probably will never score a ton
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 20 @ 4:34 PM ET
If he tops out at a 50pt player ill be happy. He's gunna be a stud 2-way forward.
- DirtyDan


I'm not all that concerned about his point total. He may never be a PP standout. 50 would be great, along with strong two way play.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
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Jul 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
He has the career trajectory of a David Backes IMO.

Two way captain who probably will never score a ton

- sbroads24


A lot of bad bounces his way last year. Few go in and hes a 20 goal scorer

Backes scored at a career .58ppg which is 48 pts over 82. I could see it.

Floor Backes. Ceiling Couts+
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
Since we are on the Tkachuk discussion, assuming that he agrees to an 8 year sign and trade to come to Buffalo and assuming the package costs something along the lines of Quinn/JJ, 2023 1st (protected of course), Olofsson/Mitts etc.

Giving up young prospects besides Savoie to get him

Does the Sabres organization have the depth down the middle to be a legit contender with Tage, Cozens (assuming he isn't traded), Savoie, etc.?

The one major missing piece in my opinion is having either a true #1 center or even having that 1A/1B type the Sabres had with Drury/Briere.

Yes we need talent and grit which no doubt Tkachuk certainly has, but the lack of high caliber centers is the one piece (besides goalie) that the Sabres must get.

- Stripes77



As far as our Centers project moving forward….

I think Cozens is a Drury comparable & Savoie is a Briere comparable

So not exactly Crosby & Malkin, but still good enough imo
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 20 @ 5:27 PM ET
As far as our Centers project moving forward….

I think Cozens is a Drury comparable & Savoie is a Briere comparable

So not exactly Crosby & Malkin, but still good enough imo

- jdfitz77



Realistically prob more closer to Hecht and Ennis then two of the best sabres players of all time, but here is hoping 🤞🏻
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 20 @ 5:36 PM ET
From front page

Offer for trachuk

Rights to

Johnson
Portilo
All 2023 2nd rounders
Oloasson
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 5:44 PM ET
From front page

Offer for trachuk

Rights to

Johnson
Portilo
All 2023 2nd rounders

- Anderdog


this probably isn't anywhere near enough

Eichel trade is going to be comparable. Tkachuk better, but Eichel had term already.

Eichel + 3rd
Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd

We don't really have anything comparable to Tuch to offer. Olofsson is probably the best bet there, but he has no term and goes to UFA next season i believe

Cozens is probably the key piece. Then a strong prospect. Probably Peterka. Buf 1st rounder top 5 protected or something. Then probably one more piece. A 2nd rounder, or a B tier prospect.

Would be pricey, but I'd do it.

Edit: I'd also only do it if I had permission to agree to an extension beforehand too
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