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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:31 AM ET
Marian Hossa says hello

TJ Oshie was one of Washington’s best players hands down.

That’s off the cuff


It’s not that cut and dry

- sbroads24


kings brought in
richards, carter, williams, stoll up front, thats 2/3 of their top 2 lines

on d brought in johnson, mitchell, greene which is half of their blue line
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 9:31 AM ET
colorado

goalie was a free agent
3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th best scorers up front were not drafted kadri, burakovsky, compher and nichuskin
3 of their 5 best d men were brought in on trades, toews, girard and manson

I can go down the list and probably find similar results

- homiedclown


Are they winning the Stanley Cup without MacKinnon, Makar and Landeskog?

Also this is more-so a debate on the merits of free agency and less so of trades, especially trades for young/prime veterans like Toews, Nichsushkin
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 15 @ 9:35 AM ET
Are they winning the Stanley Cup without MacKinnon, Makar and Landeskog?

Also this is more-so a debate on the merits of free agency and less so of trades, especially trades for young/prime veterans like Toews, Nichsushkin

- TheSabresTaco


Then why does everyone here every time someone goes "I would have made that trade"
say
"DONT TIM MURRAY THIS THING"
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 9:35 AM ET
Then why does everyone here every time someone goes "I would have made that trade"
say
"DONT TIM MURRAY THIS THING"

- ImThatGuy


honest to god who said that

you damn well know me personally supported a trade of at least one 1st this year.

yes i know some of the debates a while ago sorta screamed about trading everyone for veterans but I think a majority here were in favor of making a smart trade or two using picks
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:37 AM ET
There's certainly no rule. But other than (questionably) the Blues, all of these teams in the cap era have won because of their drafted core.

Chicago. LA. Pittburgh. Tampa. Washington. Bruins. Red Wings. Ducks.

Their draft picks were their best players. And all of them had complimentary trades/free agents assisting that core.

- TheSabresTaco

ducks cup winning team

pronger and nieds anchored the d, 2 hall of famers that they got from the outside
beauchemin was traded for


leading scorers, selanne was brought in mcdonald , penner and kunitz were undrafted

giguere was brought in


this is just a glance of the top half of their roster
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 15 @ 9:38 AM ET
Then why does everyone here every time someone goes "I would have made that trade"
say
"DONT TIM MURRAY THIS THING"

- ImThatGuy


I still can't believe they traded for Tuch. Now he's blocking Asplund and Ruotsalainen
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:38 AM ET
Are they winning the Stanley Cup without MacKinnon, Makar and Landeskog?

Also this is more-so a debate on the merits of free agency and less so of trades, especially trades for young/prime veterans like Toews, Nichsushkin

- TheSabresTaco

now you are moving the goal post though

big time
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 9:38 AM ET
kings brought in
richards, carter, williams, stoll up front, thats 2/3 of their top 2 lines

on d brought in johnson, mitchell, greene which is half of their blue line

- homiedclown


And yet they wouldn't have done it had they not had a franchise defenseman/center, that they drafted.

I am not arguing the merits of trades, nor the merits of FA.

But in every single one of these situations, you draft first, trade complimentary for complimentary, and fill out the rest with FAs.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 9:39 AM ET
now you are moving the goal post though

big time

- homiedclown


the (frank) I am.

Every single winner's best players are drafted. Except St Louis.

Prove me wrong.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 9:40 AM ET
ducks cup winning team

pronger and nieds anchored the d, 2 hall of famers that they got from the outside
beauchemin was traded for


leading scorers, selanne was brought in mcdonald , penner and kunitz were undrafted

giguere was brought in


this is just a glance of the top half of their roster

- homiedclown


Getzlaf and Perry
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:40 AM ET
the (frank) I am.

Every single winner's best players are drafted. Except St Louis.

Prove me wrong.

- TheSabresTaco

ducks cup team was based on two hall of fame d men from the outside
a goalie from the outside
and selanne who was traded for

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:42 AM ET
Getzlaf and Perry
- TheSabresTaco

perry had 44 points that season

they were second liners that year
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 9:42 AM ET
Getzlaf and Perry
- TheSabresTaco

We’re not their best players. They were like 20.

Their best guys we’re the D men and the goalie
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 15 @ 9:43 AM ET
Are they winning the Stanley Cup without MacKinnon, Makar and Landeskog?

Also this is more-so a debate on the merits of free agency and less so of trades, especially trades for young/prime veterans like Toews, Nichsushkin

- TheSabresTaco



This is why I have been beating the “we need an elite center” drum

That is why I wanted savoie. We need more elite talent. On defense, with Dahlin and power. We are fine.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 9:43 AM ET
We’re not their best players. They were like 20.

Their best guys we’re the D men and the goalie

- sbroads24

selane, mcdonald and kunitz was their top line

none were drafted

top 3 d men, none were drafted

goalie, not drafted
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 15 @ 9:44 AM ET
Getzlaf and Perry
- TheSabresTaco


They were 21 years old in 2006/2007…not their best players either.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 9:46 AM ET
From Lance

“ The more I watch Jiri Kulich, the more I wonder how he fell to the Sabres at 28.

Just scored another highlight-reel goal that made his fellow prospects gasp.”
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 15 @ 9:47 AM ET
Oh and the Great One was a horrendous coach.
- TheSabresTaco

Not very good as a Hockey Analyst either
The_Inkwell
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
From Lance

“ The more I watch Jiri Kulich, the more I wonder how he fell to the Sabres at 28.

Just scored another highlight-reel goal that made his fellow prospects gasp.”

- sbroads24


I still can't believe he fell to us. My prediction is that he'll be in the NHL before Savoie and Ostlund...and that's not a knock on the other two.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 15 @ 9:54 AM ET
I still can't believe he fell to us. My prediction is that he'll be in the NHL before Savoie and Ostlund...and that's not a knock on the other two.
- The_Inkwell

Can he go to the AHL this season?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
Can he go to the AHL this season?
- jochfr

yes, if signed
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
selane, mcdonald and kunitz was their top line

none were drafted

top 3 d men, none were drafted

goalie, not drafted

- homiedclown

You weren't kidding about St. Andrews
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 10:06 AM ET
You weren't kidding about St. Andrews
- Buff36

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 15 @ 10:09 AM ET

- homiedclown

I am actually playing my 1st rnd of golf Tomorrow in probably 3yrs with all the shoulder stuff. Should be interesting.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
this sums up things perfectly

https://buffalonews.com/s...ed-a856-3f5fc8c2d20c.html



as much as people dog harrington, he has the pulse of a lot of the fans

- homiedclown


Ottawa and Detroit didn't trade away their franchise player and their second best forward and top 4 dman last offseason.
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