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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
Appreciate the honesty. Maybe someone can provide a sneak peek of which one of these guys are already overrated, or perhaps who will be the next board whipping boy.

On another note can we bring back any of the following for cheap?

Skille
Martinsen
Schmaltz
Jurco
Kero
Weisz
Svedberg
Sanipass
Van Dorp

- Brownie's_Purse


Considering the Hawks are expected to be monumentally bad this year, I'm not sure you can really assign anyone as a whipping boy unless someone like Kane, Toews, Domi, or AA just go off and carry the team to a bunch of wins they don't want.

Outside of that, If Murphy is still on the team, he is likely the guy.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Appreciate the honesty. Maybe someone can provide a sneak peek of which one of these guys are already overrated, or perhaps who will be the next board whipping boy.

On another note can we bring back any of the following for cheap?

Skille
Martinsen
Schmaltz
Jurco
Kero
Weisz
Svedberg
Sanipass
Van Dorp

- Brownie's_Purse

Reichel's already Sikura.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
Tell your friend that obviously anyone drafted by the Hawks is a bust and must be traded for more draft picks and cap room.
- paulr

Anyone traded is always traded with the expectation they will be reacquired at a higher price and traded again for less.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
Anyone traded is always traded with the expectation they will be reacquired at a higher price and traded again for less.
- rpeters01


Can't wait for the Hawks to reacquire Strome.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
RFA's filing for arbitration. Note: Tkaczuk and DuBois did not file for arbitration.

Mason Appleton (Winnepeg Jets)

Ethan Bear (Carolina Hurricanes)

Jesper Bratt (New Jersey Devils)

Lawson Crouse (Arizona Coyotes)

Morgan Geekie (Seattle Kraken)

Mathieu Joseph (Ottawa Senators)

Kaapo Kahkonen (San Jose Sharks)

Kasperi Kapanen (Pittsburgh Penguins)

Keegan Kolesar (Vegas Golden Knights)

Oliver Kylington (Calgary Flames)

Maxime Lajoie (Carolina Hurricanes)

Steven Lorentz (San Jose Sharks)

Isac Lundestrom (Anaheim Ducks)

Zack MacEwen (Philadelphia Flyers)

Niko Mikkola (St. Louis Blues)*

Andrew Mangiapane (Calgary Flames)

Matthew Phillips (Calgary Flames)

Jesse Puljujarvi (Edmonton Oilers)

Tyce Thompson (New Jersey Devils)

Yakov Trenin (Nashville Predators)

Vitek Vanecek (New Jersey Devils)

Jake Walman (Detroit Red Wings)

Kailer Yamamoto (Edmonton Oilers)

Pavel Zacha (Boston Bruins)

*Signed after filing
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 18 @ 12:12 PM ET


I'm helping the marketing group this season. They can pick one or all.

#suckhardforBedard
#sucksillyforFantilli
#suckovforMichkov
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
I will not repeat feet, but...

The attack skills are different. Reichel is much more comfortable in wall traffic making quick decision in the thick of the battle areas off the net and wall.

Frankie Nazar is an attack the middle offense shooter and generator who disrupts in the middle of the attack zone and everywhere else.

On a very different and more serious note, two NHL players / hopefuls who were part of the Canadien governments investigation into the Canada's 2018 junior team involvement in alleged sexual assault by several of the players.
Conner Timmins says aware, not there.
So has Victor Mete.

So far no statements from the two new Tampa traded Blackhawks Taylor Raddysh and Boris Katchouk.

https://globalnews.ca/new...a-sex-assault-parliament/

- wiz1901


What a tragic mess, i guess the only way to identify the players the witness would have to come forward or the players would have to confess.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 18 @ 1:15 PM ET
Another thought i have is, as someone mentioned our forward pool is pretty weak, they really drafted best available on their board, Korchinski, i think if the Russian was still there he would of been selected instead of Rinzel. I hope this continues, i thought for sure the 1st pick would of been a forward or the 25th.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
Another thought i have is, as someone mentioned our forward pool is pretty weak, they really drafted best available on their board, Korchinski, i think if the Russian was still there he would of been selected instead of Rinzel. I hope this continues, i thought for sure the 1st pick would of been a forward or the 25th.
- BetweenTheDots


That is where I think Bowman went wrong. When Bovquist was picked, we theoretically were weak on the backend in the pipeline, so he picked a defenseman (a small one to be the next Duncan Keith). For Dach, he wanted to be the next Toews, instead of Byram cause he thought he had a pipeline on defense. You draft the best player available, If you do end up with a surplus at a position, you use that to trade for a weakness (which I guess Bowman was doing in the Joki for Nylander trade)
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 18 @ 1:34 PM ET
Considering the Hawks are expected to be monumentally bad this year, I'm not sure you can really assign anyone as a whipping boy unless someone like Kane, Toews, Domi, or AA just go off and carry the team to a bunch of wins they don't want.

Outside of that, If Murphy is still on the team, he is likely the guy.

- Chunk

You’re talking to the head whipper of Murphy right here, a job I’m happy to take until some other team wants a refrigerator dragged up and down the ice.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 18 @ 1:41 PM ET
Edzo not coming back as the Blackhawks analyst. Keeps his TNT gig, and is looking to hook up with another team.
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
I would not be surprised if DAVIDSON is interested and curious how Jake Wise might turn out. Perhaps lukewarm, a prove yourself with a good season at Ohio State.

Well I would veture to guess that Wise has rekindled Davidson's interest to a point. This kid has ability but does pan out as a solid two way 2nd or 3rd line

Another season, his second trial so to speak to stay healthy and impact the Buckeyes success.

I am cheering for this kid though because his background suggests he has the pedigree. Yet just to attain what level

Coming to Hockey Esst as a freshman. at some point in youth hockey he was a goal scorer and big time talent

I don t know the details where he was at in his hockey development or even in life itself
Yet injuries had a major impact in his stint in Hockey East. Sometimes in life and in sports you go through seasons with peaks and low points in the valley of life

Not each player after finishing junior as a productive scorer, is turning out to be an offensive force at the higher NHL level

And or you can also say, a player may have a season or a few with really good numbers but otherwise an average not big scoring career. Even more of a checker. With no intent to go off in a tangent in another subject not really connected, often skating decline when a player slows down. I like to recall a vereran whose NHL career was.very average for many seasons: Phiioe Boucher

His slapshot helped him generate some impressive offensive stat's mid career. He is probably therefore best remembered as large size dman for Dallas for several seasons around 2007 or so who blossomed that way. He played first on LA and Pittsbugh.

Anyway I am thinking Wise might turn out better than perceived as he struggled at BC.

Davidson has to sign him or loose his rights. Is there a spot or can he replace someone given the organizational contracts allocation (50). Might be worth a cheap sign.

Altybarmakian was a maybe. Barret I think makes the NHL. But Wise could (emphasis added) become better offensively when you look at borderline talent. I give him the opportunity with a contract before a strong season at Ohio State results with his sign as a free agent elsewhere
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 18 @ 1:51 PM ET
Edzo not coming back as the Blackhawks analyst. Keeps his TNT gig, and is looking to hook up with another team.
- LAHawk

If they go with Colby Cohen or a woman I will send it back.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
Another thought i have is, as someone mentioned our forward pool is pretty weak, they really drafted best available on their board, Korchinski, i think if the Russian was still there he would of been selected instead of Rinzel. I hope this continues, i thought for sure the 1st pick would of been a forward or the 25th.
- BetweenTheDots


So did I , but it was probably Cutter Gauthier if available.

I was surprised but totally under stand bigger long defenders who are excellent stickhandler and quick carriers may have passed drafting under-giant elite centres.

They deferred on the two smaller scoring Finns and even Marco Kasper who is big and plays big, but there is a little less upside.

Every teams scout thought that there were really MAYBE four defenesman that when taken in the first round were not long term developments with high risk factors.

The more and more I think about Sam rinse and the four years at least they wait, well, it might be really worth it if he works hard to justify being a first rounder. He has to be a carrier, and get more snarl and use it and make impact as an NHler, and maybe he can.

I bet they would have scooped Pittsburgh's choice Owen pickering if he was still on the board at 25.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
Edzo not coming back as the Blackhawks analyst. Keeps his TNT gig, and is looking to hook up with another team.
- LAHawk



Edzo is going with the Kraken !!!
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
I would not be surprised if DAVIDSON is interested and curious how Jake Wise might turn out. Perhaps lukewarm, a prove yourself with a good season at Ohio State.

Well I would veture to guess that Wise has rekindled Davidson's interest to a point. This kid has ability but does pan out as a solid two way 2nd or 3rd line

Another season, his second trial so to speak to stay healthy and impact the Buckeyes success.

I am cheering for this kid though because his background suggests he has the pedigree. Yet just to attain what level

Coming to Hockey Esst as a freshman. at some point in youth hockey he was a goal scorer and big time talent

I don t know the details where he was at in his hockey development or even in life itself
Yet injuries had a major impact in his stint in Hockey East. Sometimes in life and in sports you go through seasons with peaks and low points in the valley of life

Not each player after finishing junior as a productive scorer, is turning out to be an offensive force at the higher NHL level

And or you can also say, a player may have a season or a few with really good numbers but otherwise an average not big scoring career. Even more of a checker. With no intent to go off in a tangent in another subject not really connected, often skating decline when a player slows down. I like to recall a vereran whose NHL career was.very average for many seasons. His slapshot helped him generate some impressive offensive stat's mid career. He is probably therefore best remembered
as a large size dman for Dallas for several seasons around 2000 or so who blossomed that way. He played first on LA and Pittsbugh. I think of him as playing when Zubov was there

Anyway I am thinking Wise might turn out better than perceived as he struggled at BC.

Davidson has to sign him or loose his rights. Is there a spot or can he replace someone given the organizational contracts allocation (50). Might be worth a cheap sign.

Altybarmakian was a maybe. Barret I think makes the NHL. But Wise could (emphasis added) become better offensively when youook at borderline talent. I give to him the opportunity with a contract before a strong season at Ohio State results with his sign as a free agent elsewhere

- jhawk59


JHawk, wow, never use 100 words when 1000 will say the same thing....

Wise went to BU not BC.

Cap Friendly may be wrong on when the Hawks have to sign him by. The rule is 30 days after his NCAA eligibility ends. If Wise is committed to playing at OSU, then Hawks rights should expire 30 days after his last college game. If he signs a ELC before then he is no longer eligible for NCAA play.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
Edzo not coming back as the Blackhawks analyst. Keeps his TNT gig, and is looking to hook up with another team.
- LAHawk


Does he hate his Homelife?

Why tell me why, he would want to add an out of Chicago color analyst job ?

I do not know if the canned him, or he decided he could make more elsewhere?

I mean, how much $ does he need to lose at the racetrack?

And how much money to be on the road for both away games on TNT and another "home city" and at "home?"

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
JHawk, wow, never use 100 words when 1000 will say the same thing....

Wise went to BU not BC.

Cap Friendly may be wrong on when the Hawks have to sign him by. The rule is 30 days after his NCAA eligibility ends. If Wise is committed to playing at OSU, then Hawks rights should expire 30 days after his last college game. If he signs a ELC before then he is no longer eligible for NCAA play.

- TheTrob


Since college players can get paid now i wonder if this will change in the NHL.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 18 @ 2:03 PM ET
Since college players can get paid now i wonder if this will change in the NHL.
- BetweenTheDots


I think they can only get paid for their marketing rights to remain an amateur, not for signing a pro contract.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
I think they can only get paid for their marketing rights to remain an amateur, not for signing a pro contract.
- LAHawk


Thats correct. "New" rule says they can get paid for their NIL (Name, Image, Likeness). So for stuff like social media, autograph signings, etc. There will be plenty of ways guys figure out how to monetize stuff, but signing with a pro team is not one of them.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
Ottawa is looking for a veteran defender.

Too bad Connor Murphy is still on IR because the Senators can make nice on KD be repaying us with Ridley Greig fro him....but I doubt they are moving the defenders in place since that would make them even more comical this season.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
Ottawa is looking for a veteran defender.

Too bad Connor Murphy is still on IR because the Senators can make nice on KD be repaying us with Ridley Greig fro him....but I doubt they are moving the defenders in place since that would make them even more comical this season.

- wiz1901


Is there a rule against trading a guy on IR?

It would seem not considering all the Seabrook, Hossa, Pronger, etc. guys who were traded while on IR.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
Does he hate his Homelife?

Why tell me why, he would want to add an out of Chicago color analyst job ?

I do not know if the canned him, or he decided he could make more elsewhere?

I mean, how much $ does he need to lose at the racetrack?

And how much money to be on the road for both away games on TNT and another "home city" and at "home?"

- wiz1901

Maybe he’s pissed that Arlington Park closed? Who cares? The important thing is that I don’t have to hear him anymore…makes me a happy human.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
I think they can only get paid for their marketing rights to remain an amateur, not for signing a pro contract.
- LAHawk


I think you're right. But i imagine they will act as a middle men for their draft picks to make some extra cash while in college.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
Maybe he’s pissed that Arlington Park closed? Who cares? The important thing is that I don’t have to hear him anymore…makes me a happy human.
- Ogilthorpe2



Wasn't as much Edzo as the Edzo/Foley combination.
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