Most are saying if he doesn't want to play here, trade him. Chevy will get the better deal the same as trading Trouba. Even though he lost the Laine- PLD pretty badly.

I read PLD went to the draft because he was supposed to be traded that day. Supposedly Chevy after that told Brisson his player is an RFA not a UFA.
- manvanfan

I'm sure there are several GM's not happy with Brisson right now. Chevy should start with Suzuki, 2 first round picks.

JR traded him once, his days are numbered.
- VanHockeyGuy

You mean JR, like GMJB, Traded for E.Gudbranson 😷

I'm sure there are several GM's not happy with Brisson right now. Chevy should start with Suzuki, 2 first round picks.
- VanHockeyGuy

Mtl not an optimal team to trade with but I saw something today that had Cole Caufield should be "ready to pack at anytime"

From 2005 MTL's 1st rounder Price. All the 1st round picks between Price and Caufield in 19 had all been traded.

You mean JR, like GMJB, Traded for E.Gudbranson 😷
- onesmallleap

Benning is no longer relevant, however his trades/signings are still here.

I'd rather have JR stand pat all summer instead of digging the team in a bigger hole.

Mtl not an optimal team to trade with but I saw something today that had Cole Caufield should be "ready to pack at anytime"

From 2005 MTL's 1st rounder Price. All the 1st round picks between Price and Caufield in 19 had all been traded.
- manvanfan

Trade the f*cker to CAL.

Trade the f*cker to CAL.
- VanHockeyGuy

They owe them for getting ripped on the Toffoli deal.

Give that a 0 chance of happening.
- Nighthawk

You honestly think they'll still trade Miller if this team is going to the playoffs? I don't... Also, how dumb would it be to hold onto him into the season for a smaller return than TDL, Draft and rest of offseason then follow that up by sacrificing the playoffs for the diminished return? That's incompetence in the highest degree...

You honestly think they'll still trade Miller if this team is going to the playoffs? I don't... Also, how dumb would it be to hold onto him into the season for a smaller return than TDL, Draft and rest of offseason then follow that up by sacrificing the playoffs for the diminished return? That's incompetence in the highest degree...

- boonerbuck

I THINK it’s best to trade him asap as soon as management decides he won’t resign here or know this already given extension talks.

I HONESTLY think he’ll at worst be a TDL trade cuz of 2 reasons. 1st is mgmt won’t let him walk for free. 2nd the PO’s are important but results are not high. Therefore the long term is everything & not a JB pie in the sky hope on a wing & a prayer FA appeasing puppet move.

This diminishing return narrative means nada to me. What will mean something is what does happen. Til then I’m not going to be a pessimist & think the worst. Far too much runaway to even go there.

What a UFA like Kadri faces & UFA next year like Miller face is about what team sees their contending window to be. Sure teams are not in a rush cuz plenty of time til the season starts. Now by no means am I saying pressure to win or the want to improve isn’t out there. The question is who flinches 1st. There will always be a GM or 2 or more that plays it coy but usually they are forced to at some point in time to act. Who plays chicken best wins.
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You honestly think they'll still trade Miller if this team is going to the playoffs? I don't... Also, how dumb would it be to hold onto him into the season for a smaller return than TDL, Draft and rest of offseason then follow that up by sacrificing the playoffs for the diminished return? That's incompetence in the highest degree...

- boonerbuck

I'm not convinced the return is smaller. There are quite a few teams that would pay handsomely for a cheap high end rental.

Benning is no longer relevant, however his trades/signings are still here.

I'd rather have JR stand pat all summer instead of digging the team in a bigger hole.
- VanHockeyGuy

I'm not convinced the return is smaller. There are quite a few teams that would pay handsomely for a cheap high end rental.
- golfingsince

Morgan Barron C
2022 2nd
2023 2nd
2023 5th
for
Copp/2023 6th
Not a high end rental but still.
An example that a team will pay & Miller is a 1C that don’t grow on trees.

I'm not convinced the return is smaller. There are quite a few teams that would pay handsomely for a cheap high end rental.
- golfingsince

So return the same or bigger at TDL over what he would have returned for a season and quarter plus 2 playoffs... or a full season and playoffs? I doubt it... he'll still get a good return as a TDL rental but it will be less.

So return the same or bigger at TDL over what he would have returned for a season and quarter plus 2 playoffs... or a full season and playoffs? I doubt it... he'll still get a good return as a TDL rental but it will be less.
- boonerbuck

Other teams realize he's not 26 either.

If there's 4-5 teams with a legit shot to win the cup they'll pony up for Miller.

This diminishing return narrative means nada to me. What will mean something is what does happen. Til then I’m not going to be a pessimist & think the worst. Far too much runaway to even go there.
- Nighthawk

Well how is your massive optimism going? Remember just a couple of weeks ago you were talking about the upcoming bidding war for Miller? Management's poker strategies? Driving up prices? You've sure changed your tune over a short period of time. You can say what you want but your optimism has diminished and it's all on record.

I think a team like the Avs will pay more for Miller at this deadline than they would have last year. They can still re-sign him, probably at a discount if he has a stanley cup.

Other teams realize he's not 26 either.

If there's 4-5 teams with a legit shot to win the cup they'll pony up for Miller.
- golfingsince

If he's even on the market. If the team is in a favorable playoff position, Miller isn't likely going anywhere.

I'm fully aware teams would pony up... but a smaller return and the possibility of management standing pat are legit concerns.

If he's even on the market. If the team is in a favorable playoff position, Miller isn't likely going anywhere.

I'm fully aware teams would pony up... but a smaller return and the possibility of management standing pat are legit concerns.
- boonerbuck

He has to be on the market regardless of playoff position if they can't sign him.

If he's even on the market. If the team is in a favorable playoff position, Miller isn't likely going anywhere.

I'm fully aware teams would pony up... but a smaller return and the possibility of management standing pat are legit concerns.
- boonerbuck

This, even this year I remember Rutherford did an interview where he said that this team "deserved a chance" to see if they could push for the playoffs.

He has to be on the market regardless of playoff position if they can't sign him.
- golfingsince

I agree but you are discussing this with fans on HB, not FA and people who work for him.

If he's even on the market. If the team is in a favorable playoff position, Miller isn't likely going anywhere.

I'm fully aware teams would pony up... but a smaller return and the possibility of management standing pat are legit concerns.
- boonerbuck

They’re concerns if you think they aren’t on top of it. Everything they have said is having him signed or traded is their top priority, so I don’t find myself concerned with March so far away.

This, even this year I remember Rutherford did an interview where he said that this team "deserved a chance" to see if they could push for the playoffs.
- Nucker101

At this point it looks like management's plan has been to keep this group together and tweak it. Add a bit of 4rth line sandpaper and middle 6 speed. They would liked to have moved Miller for a big return involving a high end RD prospect/young player plus plus but it never materialized. The plan probably is to play the season with him rather than taking a package like the one offered by the Rangers. Unfortunately, that will probably still be better than what's offered at the TDL at the end of his contract...

The fact they thought this team deserved a chance over moving Miller at the last TDL is a sign of where their mind is. It seems obvious now...

Kuzma hinting that the ask for Marino was Jack Rathbone and a 2nd round pick.

https://theprovince.com/s...witter#Echobox=1658263554

So return the same or bigger at TDL over what he would have returned for a season and quarter plus 2 playoffs... or a full season and playoffs? I doubt it... he'll still get a good return as a TDL rental but it will be less.
- boonerbuck

The past cannot be undone & to date there has been no trade offer that was reported as fact last TDL.

Also it’s premature to say it’ll go down to the next TDL. Patience lol