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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 19 @ 8:27 PM ET
My bad. I was just reading the post that he was responding to, and it sounded to me like he was going from NJs POV. 😂 I’d have a hard time arguing this is not a flyers board, so I’ll agree with that
- Oberyn23


I was. It's all good. I believe it all started from a post about how "if the Devils end up with him"
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:28 PM ET
That’s what really sucks. It doesn’t seem like management has much confidence in the Ratcliffs, Cates, and Allison (if he could stay healthy) compete for a spot. They’re content with 4th line journeymen.
- Oberyn23


Cates is likely in line for a 3rd line winger spot. Or maybe higher. Allison in my opinion would already be an NHL player if he could stay healthy for more than a day and scoring goals in this league. It's a shame.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:29 PM ET
Possible. Not sure what Chuck was thinking. Hard to follow him. The insurance was Tony D. The insurance to the insurance is Braun. This team might want to get an insurance to the insurance to the insurance with their injury history.
- peesinwind

Look, all I know is Attard in my opinion doesn’t have a shot in hell of starting ahead of Ristolainen, DeAngelo or Braun on the right side. We all know where Ristolainen will be slotted and what he’s paid guarantees him a spot opening night. DeAngelo is the hometown boy coming home and paid handsomely to do so. Justin Braun has for the most part been Provorov’s partner the passed two seasons. He’s not just a third pair 6th defender. He’s insurance in case DeAngelo cannot handle top billing.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:31 PM ET
Hopefully Noah Cates gets a shot a 3LW with Frost and Tippett.
Kind of sucks for Laszynski and Allison imo.

- rayc16


Where does Laughton slot? Maybe if Farabee starts out on the IR.

The Flyers have a tone of bottom 6 players. It will be interesting to see who slots where and who is left as the 13th and 14th forwards.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
I hope I'm wrong but I see Brown and MacEwen as locks. Brown centering MacEwen and Deslauriers. All 3 players shouldn't be on the team.
- MJL

This team will struggle to score. They will employ a 4th line that offers less than zero offensively. Will get caved in defensive. Will bleed chances. 3 no future bums.

Those 3 will absolutely be the 4th line. This is what a piss poor archaic run organization does.

Rather roll out a Radcliffe - Tanner - Allison 4th line all day every day. Or some combination of those and someone else.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
He said that he would give Calgary a call to see what it would take. As a Flyers fan on a Flyers thread. I would think it would be from a Flyers perspective.
- MJL

It was not
Oberyn23
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.15.2021

Jul 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
This was in response to if the Devils would end with him.

But to answer your question in regards to the Flyers I'm hanging onto 1st round picks for the foreseeable future.

- Pelle31Forever

Agreed…on all fronts. If I was the devils I’d consider listening to their asking price. Might be the best type of player to help the youth come along. Flyers need to draft well, & not get sucked into long term depth signings. I’m still curious what Chuck was thinking about JG (as a UFA)…do you guys think he has quite a few good years left in him & could be solid with a young, talented team (assuming flyers drafted in top 5 again in 23 & maybe top 10 in 24)? Haha I wish I could see the direction of this team
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
Yeah. I hope your wrong also. Not sure Brown and MacEwen are looks. Allison look like Tippetts until Allison got hurt (again🙄) and Cates was making plays. Both are not babies as they went through the college ranks. Brown and MacEwen are NHL players for sure. Just hope the kids are good enough to up seat them.
- peesinwind

Cates is a winger. Has he played center in the passed? I have no idea. All I know is, Brown was a staple to the PK, and if Allison is healthy, he’s a natural right winger who likely has the inside track on beating out MacEwen.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:35 PM ET
Where does Laughton slot? Maybe if Farabee starts out on the IR.

The Flyers have a tone of bottom 6 players. It will be interesting to see who slots where and who is left as the 13th and 14th forwards.

- peesinwind

Guessing he'll be LW in the top 6 until Farabee's ready. I'm sure there will be like 4 more injuries before the season starts. Good thing about Laughton is you can slot him almost anywhere.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:36 PM ET
This team will struggle to score. They will employ a 4th line that offers less than zero offensively. Will get caved in defensive. Will bleed chances. 3 no future bums.

Those 3 will absolutely be the 4th line. This is what a piss poor archaic run organization does.

Rather roll out a Radcliffe - Tanner - Allison 4th line all day every day. Or some combination of those and someone else.

- furio16

100%
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:37 PM ET
Look, all I know is Attard in my opinion doesn’t have a shot in hell of starting ahead of Ristolainen, DeAngelo or Braun on the right side. We all know where Ristolainen will be slotted and what he’s paid guarantees him a spot opening night. DeAngelo is the hometown boy coming home and paid handsomely to do so. Justin Braun has for the most part been Provorov’s partner the passed two seasons. He’s not just a third pair 6th defender. He’s insurance in case DeAngelo cannot handle top billing.
- SuperSchennBros


Yeah. Attard seemed like a decent player. I think he has a future in the NHL. Not sure he is ready to hold down the 3rd pairing yet. I’m glad he will have to battle his way in right now. He is no York yet.

In my mind York is looking strong at playing in the NHL. The guy was solid last year. Pretty good at moving the puck for his age. I like him a lot.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:37 PM ET
Wrong.

Please stop lying.

You literally typed 'they think he can be as good as Giroux."

Nope I never said that nor implied that.

I always stated that Frost and Patrick were viewed as hopeful replacements at the top 2 center positions. Hence why Hextall drafted them both in the 1st round.

You just got caught in a lie.

You are wrong about everything and can't accept it. So you lie and throw things out there.

You got caught lying.

Please stop lying.

- Captain_Ahab

This is so obnoxious to read over and over. Just make your point, dude.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:39 PM ET
Wrong.

Please stop lying.

You literally typed 'they think he can be as good as Giroux."

Nope I never said that nor implied that.

I always stated that Frost and Patrick were viewed as hopeful replacements at the top 2 center positions. Hence why Hextall drafted them both in the 1st round.

You just got caught in a lie.

You are wrong about everything and can't accept it. So you lie and throw things out there.

You got caught lying.

Please stop lying.

- Captain_Ahab


Why am I not surprised that you don't know the difference between "they" and "you"
Oberyn23
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.15.2021

Jul 19 @ 8:42 PM ET
Yeah. Attard seemed like a decent player. I think he has a future in the NHL. Not sure he is ready to hold down the 3rd pairing yet. I’m glad he will have to battle his way in right now. He is no York yet.

In my mind York is looking strong at playing in the NHL. The guy was solid last year. Pretty good at moving the puck for his age. I like him a lot.

- peesinwind

I think I’m most excited about what he can do this upcoming year (if healthy knock on wood). He looks like he can be something (dare I say a Kimmo lite)…I just hope the kid can contribute though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:42 PM ET
It was not
- ClaudeFather


I saw the post where he said I would give them a call and thought that he was talking about the Flyers.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:43 PM ET
Cates is a winger. Has he played center in the passed? I have no idea. All I know is, Brown was a staple to the PK, and if Allison is healthy, he’s a natural right winger who likely has the inside track on beating out MacEwen.
- SuperSchennBros


Yeah. Cates played center most of his collage career. I think he is more slotted as a winger in the NHL but as a swing man upside. He was pretty decent on the dot in collage. I followed Cates in collage and he was always projecting to me as a sound defensive forward the can play up as needed. This kid plays smart. He has a chance.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:44 PM ET
Yeah. Attard seemed like a decent player. I think he has a future in the NHL. Not sure he is ready to hold down the 3rd pairing yet. I’m glad he will have to battle his way in right now. He is no York yet.

In my mind York is looking strong at playing in the NHL. The guy was solid last year. Pretty good at moving the puck for his age. I like him a lot.

- peesinwind

I don’t have strong hopes for Attard. At least not on the Flyers.

I’ll put it this way. York couldn’t even leap frog over Yandle for most of the last. Frost kept getting shipped in and out of the minors and was in the line up, couldn’t find playing time with reliable linemates. So if these guys couldn’t be properly handed a well deserved spot on the team , how are Cates and Attard suppose to be?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:44 PM ET
This team will struggle to score. They will employ a 4th line that offers less than zero offensively. Will get caved in defensive. Will bleed chances. 3 no future bums.

Those 3 will absolutely be the 4th line. This is what a piss poor archaic run organization does.

Rather roll out a Radcliffe - Tanner - Allison 4th line all day every day. Or some combination of those and someone else.

- furio16



They will struggle to score. You can't even use that line in a defensive role. They'll get caved in shift after shift. The Flyers have an opportunity to have a 4th line with some young talent on it. Hopefully that speculation is wrong but that's what I see happening.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:45 PM ET
Point was already made.

And no.

- Captain_Ahab

You look so desperate to be right but whatever. God bless.
Oberyn23
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.15.2021

Jul 19 @ 8:46 PM ET
Yeah. Cates played center most of his collage career. I think he is more slotted as a winger in the NHL but as a swing man upside. He was pretty decent on the dot in collage. I followed Cates in collage and he was always projecting to me as a sound defensive forward the can play up as needed. This kid plays smart. He has a chance.
- peesinwind

He looked savvy in his short stint. Definitely looked like he belonged. Hopefully, he performs in training camp & Torts likes him
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:47 PM ET
They will struggle to score. You can't even use that line in a defensive role. They'll get caved in shift after shift. The Flyers have an opportunity to have a 4th line with some young talent on it. Hopefully that speculation is wrong but that's what I see happening.
- MJL

Not hard to see happening when you sign ND and have Zac back in the fold. Leaves you speechless.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:47 PM ET
Yeah. Cates played center most of his collage career. I think he is more slotted as a winger in the NHL but as a swing man upside. He was pretty decent on the dot in collage. I followed Cates in collage and he was always projecting to me as a sound defensive forward the can play up as needed. This kid plays smart. He has a chance.
- peesinwind

Well this is good news for Cates but I doubt he beats out Brown. Brown brought too much to the table last season. Brown was actually a really good penalty killer last season.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
Guessing he'll be LW in the top 6 until Farabee's ready. I'm sure there will be like 4 more injuries before the season starts. Good thing about Laughton is you can slot him almost anywhere.
- rayc16


Right. Laughton is a utility knife. He could even slot down and play 4th line center duties. Although would hate to have him there. But Allison is not equipped to play on the 4th line. If he stays healthy he could push for top 9 winger.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
He looked savvy in his short stint. Definitely looked like he belonged. Hopefully, he performs in training camp & Torts likes him
- Oberyn23

Have there been instances in the past where Torts goes directly against the GM. ND is fresh off a 4 year deal, can’t see him riding pine. Macewan needs to be stapled to the press box.
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jul 19 @ 8:49 PM ET
You look so desperate to be right but whatever. God bless.
- SuperSchennBros


Because I am right.

God bless.
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