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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
I think that window has closed.
- MBFlyerfan



Hopefully, they accidentally did the right thing. Only fear now is JVR puts up 28 plus goals, making the team better
Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Jul 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/team-canada/men/junior/2017-18/world-championship/stats/team-rosters?teamid=175

Looks like only Hart -- and the one who should have been chosen at #2 with hindsight attached - Cale Makar

- corduroy


Interesting Development: Apparently a consent video. What a nightmare to be in for all parties. From what I understand, the young woman had already received a very large settlement from hockey canada.

https://www.tsn.ca/lawyer...s-text-messages-1.1827214
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
The regular buyout period normally lasts around 15 days or so. Not sure if that has passed or not. If MacEwen winds up going to arbitration. The Flyers will have another buyout period later in the summer.
- MJL



Tell me, if he does anything else but accept their original offer the flyers can walk away and he becomes an FA?

If correct, walk the fxck away
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Interesting Development: Apparently a consent video. What a nightmare to be in for all parties. From what I understand, the young woman had already received a very large settlement from hockey canada.

https://www.tsn.ca/lawyer...s-text-messages-1.1827214

- Cap437

Very odd, no way to really know what went down
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
The Flyers are also not in the top 10 oldest teams in the NHL Hooray!
- mickel25


We know that from the age distribution chart.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
We know that from the age distribution chart.
- MJL


Yep. Just trying to find the silver lining.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
I have had the displeasure of researching shoulder injuries. I was tripped from behind last week and went shoulder into boards. Only a grade 3 dislocation to AC joint, no surgery. I have now spoke to some who had the same and ones who had surgery. Frost losing a year seems like a no brainer. Maybe some on here have had the same.

Kid deserves this year, solid progress should be the expectation, but I feel like with some, even if he takes a nice step forward the goal posts will be moved
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:35 PM ET
I have had the displeasure of researching shoulder injuries. I was tripped from behind last week and went shoulder into boards. Only a grade 3 dislocation to AC joint, no surgery. I have now spoke to some who had the same and ones who had surgery. Frost losing a year seems like a no brainer. Maybe some on here have had the same.

Kid deserves this year, solid progress should be the expectation, but I feel like with some, even if he takes a nice step forward the goal posts will be moved

- wcorvette


Hopefully he plays a full season. That is the minimum for me. I would like to see him get 40+ points.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
Interesting Development: Apparently a consent video. What a nightmare to be in for all parties. From what I understand, the young woman had already received a very large settlement from hockey canada.

https://www.tsn.ca/lawyer...s-text-messages-1.1827214

- Cap437


She did but there is a new investigation in the case now. Before, the players could volunteer to be interviewed, not the must come in for an interview. The woman also did not with to go public, now she is willing to.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 1:42 PM ET
Tell me, if he does anything else but accept their original offer the flyers can walk away and he becomes an FA?
- wcorvette


Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 1 year and greater than $4,538,958, Club can walk away from the awarded salary, making the player a UFA
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 1:52 PM ET
She did but there is a new investigation in the case now. Before, the players could volunteer to be interviewed, not the must come in for an interview. The woman also did not with to go public, now she is willing to.
- WhiskeyMan

How can you go public if you took a settlement? Would assume whatever in the settlement would forbid that.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:55 PM ET
We know that from the age distribution chart.
- MJL

I hear they are able to sort it by oldest to youngest OR youngest to oldest. Next they are going to evaluate pivot tables.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:56 PM ET
How can you go public if you took a settlement? Would assume whatever in the settlement would forbid that.
- ClaudeFather

Not if Chuck Fletcher wrote the terms of the settlement
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 1:57 PM ET
From the Spittin Chiclets podcast
_____________________________

"They gave your bag to Risto"

*laughter*

"whoops, whoops"

"You have very similar bags"

"Actually Chuck Fletcher's became my favorite GM after the answer he gave about how it was gonna be too hard to move a couple contracts to get one of the best playmakers we've seen in the last f***ing what 5-10 years."

Gaudreau: "Oh, geez..."

"Come on it's f***ing hilarious, dude, he just didn't even want to work to get it done, so suck on that one Johnny".
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:00 PM ET
We know that from the age distribution chart.
- MJL

Advanced metrics are a powerful tool to clarify complicated points.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 19 @ 2:00 PM ET
How can you go public if you took a settlement? Would assume whatever in the settlement would forbid that.
- ClaudeFather

Don't know if Canadian law is different or not going public was part of the settlement. i just go by what was reported.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:01 PM ET
From the Spittin Chiclets podcast
_____________________________

"They gave your bag to Risto"

*laughter*

"whoops, whoops"

"You have very similar bags"

"Actually Chuck Fletcher's became my favorite GM after the answer he gave about how it was gonna be too hard to move a couple contracts to get one of the best playmakers we've seen in the last f***ing what 5-10 years."

Gaudreau: "Oh, geez..."

"Come on it's f***ing hilarious, dude, he just didn't even want to work to get it done, so suck on that one Johnny".

- Feanor

And so, the Prodigal son became a buckeye. Thanks for nothing, Chuck.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 2:02 PM ET
And so, the Prodigal son became a buckeye. Thanks for nothing, Chuck.
- iamscore2day

We got Tony D tho!! The real prodigal son.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
https://phillyhockeynow.c...l-wins-award-joe-siville/

The Flyers and Minnesota Wild on Monday were named the 2021-22 winners of the Richard Dillman Award, presented annually to honor the work of outstanding NHL PR staffs.

Philly was named the best in the Eastern Conference, while the Wild won in the West


It looks like one part of the Flyers front office is award winning, just not the part that has to do with winning hockey games.

- Flyers_01

This is an award for putting lipstick on a pig.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
We got Tony D tho!! The real prodigal son.
- ClaudeFather

Good point! I missed that connection.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 2:04 PM ET
Don't know if Canadian law is different or not going public was part of the settlement. i just go by what was reported.
- WhiskeyMan

I would say that’s false. It seems like it’s more of an internal Canada thing now.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:06 PM ET
And so, the Prodigal son became a buckeye. Thanks for nothing, Chuck.
- iamscore2day

so if Clarke and Holmgren are really running things like many say, you don't think they wouldn't have wanted JG based on how they performed as a GM?

This decision was all Chuck, so maybe Chuck just didn't want JG for whatever reason.

"Gaudreau was on Chicklets. He said the Flyers told him before free agency day they were out because they couldn’t make it work cap space wise.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 2:06 PM ET
Tony D on the Cam and Strick podcast said there was a group chat with him Gaudreau and Hayes prior to JG signing. Couldn’t imagine how hard they bashed Fletcher for his incompetence. I hope it gets leaked somehow.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 19 @ 2:07 PM ET
I would say that’s false. It seems like it’s more of an internal Canada thing now.
- ClaudeFather


Apparently, Hockey Canada has a reserve fund to settle sexual assault allegations without involving the insurance company. Seems like they expect and excuse this type of behavior. That is pretty awful.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:10 PM ET
so if Clarke and Holmgren are really running things like many say, you don't think they wouldn't have wanted JG based on how they performed as a GM?

This decision was all Chuck, so maybe Chuck just didn't want JG for whatever reason.

"Gaudreau was on Chicklets. He said the Flyers told him before free agency day they were out because they couldn’t make it work cap space wise.

- hello it's me 2050


I have given up on trying to solve the random number generator that is our FO. Is it Chuck? Is it Bobby? The media reports, if true, make it sound like it is never Chuck as he needs some kind of validation for everything he does. All I know is our roster gets worse every year that he is GM. And, even when they have several years to plan for it, they can't execute a salary dump to make room for a local kid who has the speed and finesse that we need so much and that will bring fans back to the arena.
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