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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:11 PM ET
I have given up on trying to solve the random number generator that is our FO. Is it Chuck? Is it Bobby? The media reports, if true, make it sound like it is never Chuck as he needs some kind of validation for everything he does. All I know is our roster gets worse every year that he is GM. And, even when they have several years to plan for it, they can't execute a salary dump to make room for a local kid who has the speed and finesse that we need so much and that will bring fans back to the arena.
- iamscore2day

Seems clear to me they didn't want JG for whatever reason.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 2:11 PM ET
Apparently, Hockey Canada has a reserve fund to settle sexual assault allegations without involving the insurance company. Seems like they expect and excuse this type of behavior. That is pretty awful.
- mickel25

Unfortunately the water gets very murky when you are talking about up and coming athletes that are going to make a lot of money. There will be folks who try and expose them for that and at the same time there can be indefensible decisions made by one of those athletes. At the end of the day hockey Canada just wants it to go away, hence the fund. I will add, If you don’t think majority of major sports organizations operate this way you are foolish.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
Unfortunately the water gets very murky when you are talking about up and coming athletes that are going to make a lot of money. There will be folks who try and expose them for that and at the same time there can be indefensible decisions made by one of those athletes. At the end of the day hockey Canada just wants it to go away, hence the fund. I will add, If you don’t think majority of major sports organizations operate this way you are foolish.
- ClaudeFather


I am fully aware. It is horrible to think they just error on the side of the player as the base setting. It should not be that way when there is a case that can/should be prosecuted.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
I am fully aware. It is horrible to think they just error on the side of the player as the base setting. It should not be that way when there is a case that can/should be prosecuted.
- mickel25

Have to protect the shield
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jul 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
So you would have been fine if he mailed it in at the end of the season because the Flyers were not making the playoffs?
- WhiskeyMan

Not what I am saying. Said last 10 or so games were meaningless
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 19 @ 2:26 PM ET
Worth a listen to that Tony D interview. Comes across as honest through it all. Clearly a guy with a temper but doesn’t seem so bad.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
Seems clear to me they didn't want JG for whatever reason.
- hello it's me 2050

Other than the undisputable truth that they are stupid, nothing about these clowns strikes me as clear.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 19 @ 2:33 PM ET
The Flyers are also not in the top 10 oldest teams in the NHL Hooray!
- mickel25


They're tied for 7th

;-)
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
Seems clear to me they didn't want JG for whatever reason.
- hello it's me 2050


nd > JG in chucks mind
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 19 @ 2:38 PM ET
They're tied for 7th

;-)

- Scoob


Damn they cannot get anything right
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
Other than the undisputable truth that they are stupid, nothing about these clowns strikes me as clear.
- iamscore2day


What would have the outcome if the Flyers got JG?

Would they have been a playoff team for the entire length of his contract?
Would they have been a cup contender for multiple seasons?
Would they have an aging player stuck on a long term high priced contract?

JG would actually hurt the team, he would help them be a middle of the road team and prevent them from getting a top 10 draft pick.

We just have to let the sudo tank happen and build through the draft. I don't like it but I do not see any other option.


Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
How can you go public if you took a settlement? Would assume whatever in the settlement would forbid that.
- ClaudeFather


Reading between the lines on this one, she's already blown all the settlement money and now wants more.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 19 @ 2:46 PM ET
From the Spittin Chiclets podcast
_____________________________

"They gave your bag to Risto"

*laughter*

"whoops, whoops"

"You have very similar bags"

"Actually Chuck Fletcher's became my favorite GM after the answer he gave about how it was gonna be too hard to move a couple contracts to get one of the best playmakers we've seen in the last f***ing what 5-10 years."

Gaudreau: "Oh, geez..."

"Come on it's f***ing hilarious, dude, he just didn't even want to work to get it done, so suck on that one Johnny".

- Feanor


Biz was brutal on CF on this podcast. I was cracking up.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
Reading between the lines on this one, she's already blown all the settlement money and now wants more.
- Letterkenney

interesting....
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
This is an award for putting lipstick on a pig.
- iamscore2day


Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
interesting....
- hello it's me 2050


I see what you did there!
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
Reading between the lines on this one, she's already blown all the settlement money and now wants more.
- Letterkenney


Mentally handicapped are we?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 19 @ 2:56 PM ET
Reading between the lines on this one, she's already blown all the settlement money and now wants more.
- Letterkenney


From what i read, it was the government that wants to look into it further for all the money they donate, had nothing to do with her.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 3:06 PM ET
What would have the outcome if the Flyers got JG?

Would they have been a playoff team for the entire length of his contract?
Would they have been a cup contender for multiple seasons?
Would they have an aging player stuck on a long term high priced contract?

JG would actually hurt the team, he would help them be a middle of the road team and prevent them from getting a top 10 draft pick.

We just have to let the sudo tank happen and build through the draft. I don't like it but I do not see any other option.

- WhiskeyMan


If they are pseudo-tanking why are they still spending to the cap and adding a 50 point dman to try and fix the league worst PP?

When the Rags were rebuilding and had an elite forward wanting to sign with them, they made sure they found the space to do it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 3:15 PM ET
If they are pseudo-tanking why are they still spending to the cap and adding a 50 point dman to try and fix the league worst PP?

When the Rags were rebuilding and had an elite forward wanting to sign with them, they made sure they found the space to do it.

- Feanor



Fletcher with his incompetence misread the market and thought he would be able to move JVR. He found the price too high.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 3:15 PM ET
If they are pseudo-tanking why are they still spending to the cap and adding a 50 point dman to try and fix the league worst PP?

When the Rags were rebuilding and had an elite forward wanting to sign with them, they made sure they found the space to do it.

- Feanor



Fletcher with his incompetence misread the market and thought he would be able to move JVR. He found the price too high.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
Fletcher with his incompetence misread the market and thought he would be able to move JVR. He found the price too high.
- MJL

not the only scenario CLiff.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 19 @ 3:19 PM ET
From what i read, it was the government that wants to look into it further for all the money they donate, had nothing to do with her.
- bradster


I'm fairly certain that the settlement was approved by a court in the first place. Who the heck knows what's going on... it's Canada.

Aside from that, at 18/19/20 years old on the cusp of a likely lucrative professional hockey career, WTF are they thinking? You have to be aware of the fact that there's a target on your back now and anything or anyone with an axe to grind can literally ruin your career and your life. So one kid wants to smash a chick, so what. When many others join the fray it becomes a whole different situation, and they should know better even if it's consented to by the girl. Just stay away. Water under the bridge now and the politicians are now involved.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 19 @ 3:21 PM ET
not the only scenario CLiff.
- hello it's me 2050

Exactly. It’s entirely possible he didn’t know who Johnny Gaudreau was or what a salary cap is.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 19 @ 3:21 PM ET
If they are pseudo-tanking why are they still spending to the cap and adding a 50 point dman to try and fix the league worst PP?

When the Rags were rebuilding and had an elite forward wanting to sign with them, they made sure they found the space to do it.

- Feanor


And that elite forward got them to how many Stanley Cup rounds?

Since getting Zibanejad, they have been in 2016 they have made the playoffs 4 times and made it to the Conference finals once.

Since acquiring Panarin, they made the playoffs 3 times, and made it to the Conference finals once and IMO that was due to their goalie.

Hawks have 2 super stars, will they be a playoff team?

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