1. Tkachuk + O. Kylington to STL for: Kyrou, Krug, 2023 first, 2024 2nd rounder, Scandella, Jake Neighbors.
OR:
2. Tkachuk to OTT for either Stutzle OR Norris, 2023 first, 2024 2nd round pick.

Both trades are dependent upon Tkachuk signing a minimum 6 year extension with the acquiring club.
- quinneroma

Flames would make out very nicely either way... esp with the pieces that they still have..

NJD trades Severson for a 2024 first elsewhere...

To Cal: 2x 2024 1st rounders (unprotected), 2023 2nd rounder, Arseni Gristyuk, Reily Walsh, Tatar, Andreas Johnson (cap dump on last 2)
To NJD: Tkachuk with pre agreed 8 year extension
- rcerick

I think that's too much for Devils to give up

I don't think that some of you know what is probably really happening with Tkachuk's situation right now.
By taking him to arbitration, the Flames essentially bought themselves more time to try to negotiate a long term agreement with Chucky. They now have until the date of his arbitration hearing (not yet announced, but will be sometime between July 27 and Aug 11) to negotiate a deal. If Chucky will not agree to a long term agreement by then, the Flames will trade him before the hearing and will get as much as they possibly can, with the team receiving him knowing that he is a UFA at the end of this upcoming season and he may be set on signing with St. Louis (or not - see Johnny Gaudreau). The Flames will NOT allow this to go to arbitration, because if they do they will only have Chucky until the end of the season and he becomes a UFA then and he walks for nothing, and they will not allow that to happen 2 years in a row. IF (and they won't) they did go to the arbitrator hearing, whatever the settlement was - the Flames could not trade him for a year - by that time he is a UFA. One of 2 things will happen by August 11 - option 1 is preferred by the Flames:
(1) Tkachuk signs a long term contract with the Flames - money will not be a problem - he will likely get the most from the Flames. Term is the issue - Flames want commitment long tern - who knows what Chucky wants.
(2) Tkachuk is traded by August 11 at the latest, but traded before his arb hearing takes place. Slight possibility of a "Sign and Trade"(long term) situation to make everything work easier, particularly if St. Louis is the trading partner.
The Blues would be playing a dangerous game if they operate on the assumption that they will just wait until UFA in one year and get him for nothing except $ - ask Philly or the Devils how that theory worked for them with Gaudreau
- hags11

This is a long post so I might have missed something, but you're assigning the Flames too much leverage, here. If Tkachuk doesn't sign a long term deal with an acquiring team, why would any team give value to Calgary just to trade places with them? Tkachuk's arbitration rights won't go away with a trade. An acquiring team who doesn't have a deal with Tkachuk will be in the same unenviable position as Calgary plus they will have given away assets for the privilege. Based on that, Calgary won't get as much value for Tkachuk. It seems to make more sense to focus on the "sign/trade" market because it will probably get Calgary a better return. BUT the drawback with that? Tkachuk has discretion to sign an extension or not.

Dominos.

LA Kings: Peterson, Durzi and Roy a 2nd rounder

LA Kings: Peterson, Durzi and Roy a 2nd rounder
- Kings1go

START THE PAPERWORK!!!!!!!!

Murray Craven straight up

Farabee, Frost, Provorov, Sanheim, Hart, and 3 1sts

Because Chuck Fletcher

Nah no chance!...We already have the BEST Tkachuck in Ottawa!...and our top 6 is fully loaded with the adddition of Giroux & DeBrincat!

If CGY is heading towards a retool and OTT is a destination Tkachuk would accept (I assume he likes his brother), then:

OTT sends '23 1st (unprotected), '23 2nd, Pinto, and Batherson for Tkachuk who then signs for 6 years, the term left on Brady's contract. I have no idea what the AAV might look like, but this deal would leave OTT with not much space to sign about 6-7 guys.
- Only_A_Ladd

No thanks!...our top 6 is loaded with the addition of Giroux & DeBrincat!...and it's out of question to trade an unprotected 1st in 2023 + Batherson & Pinto: Those 2 very young players have MORE value than Mat Tkachuck!!!

I don't think that some of you know what is probably really happening with Tkachuk's situation right now.
By taking him to arbitration, the Flames essentially bought themselves more time to try to negotiate a long term agreement with Chucky. They now have until the date of his arbitration hearing (not yet announced, but will be sometime between July 27 and Aug 11) to negotiate a deal. If Chucky will not agree to a long term agreement by then, the Flames will trade him before the hearing and will get as much as they possibly can, with the team receiving him knowing that he is a UFA at the end of this upcoming season and he may be set on signing with St. Louis (or not - see Johnny Gaudreau). The Flames will NOT allow this to go to arbitration, because if they do they will only have Chucky until the end of the season and he becomes a UFA then and he walks for nothing, and they will not allow that to happen 2 years in a row. IF (and they won't) they did go to the arbitrator hearing, whatever the settlement was - the Flames could not trade him for a year - by that time he is a UFA. One of 2 things will happen by August 11 - option 1 is preferred by the Flames:
(1) Tkachuk signs a long term contract with the Flames - money will not be a problem - he will likely get the most from the Flames. Term is the issue - Flames want commitment long tern - who knows what Chucky wants.
(2) Tkachuk is traded by August 11 at the latest, but traded before his arb hearing takes place. Slight possibility of a "Sign and Trade"(long term) situation to make everything work easier, particularly if St. Louis is the trading partner.
The Blues would be playing a dangerous game if they operate on the assumption that they will just wait until UFA in one year and get him for nothing except $ - ask Philly or the Devils how that theory worked for them with Gaudreau
- hags11

Of course they want to get him as soon as they can. However, if the blues feel the price is to high or cant move tarasenko then they will wait. It is a calculated risk.

Walt works for the Blues, they just resigned Thomas (who is like a brother to the Tkachuk brothers) and its his home town. I can easily be convinced the outcome is already predetermined and we are just going through the motions to get to the intended outcome.

1. Tkachuk + O. Kylington to STL for: Kyrou, Krug, 2023 first, 2024 2nd rounder, Scandella, Jake Neighbors.
OR:
2. Tkachuk to OTT for either Stutzle OR Norris, 2023 first, 2024 2nd round pick.

Both trades are dependent upon Tkachuk signing a minimum 6 year extension with the acquiring club.
- quinneroma

In Ottawa, we don't need another Tkachuk!...we already have the Best of the 2!...And we'll never trade Stutzle or Norris our 2 best Centers: they are yonger; highly skilled and still lots of upside in their game!

No thanks!...our top 6 is loaded with the addition of Giroux & DeBrincat!...and it's out of question to trade an unprotected 1st in 2023 + Batherson & Pinto: Those 2 very young players have MORE value than Mat Tkachuck!!!
- SensGatineau

How do you measure that?

Tkachuck finished 8th in the league in scoring. He's either in or just entering his prime. Imagine what he'd do for Stutzle's production alone...

3 way trade:

Montreal Canadian Receive:
- Pierre-Luc Dubois
- Winnipeg 3rd
(They get the player they really want, and can sign to their own terms)

Winnipeg Jets receive:
- Matthew Tkachuk
(Dad played for the Jets, hard nosed player)

Calgary Flames receive:
- Kirby Dach
- Kaiden Guhle
- Winnipeg 2nd
- Montreal 2nd + 6th
(Kick starts a rebuild/re-tool they’re not ready to commit to, but essentially needs to start right now)

Each team giving up something they don’t want to, but may have to in order to get what they want in return. That’s how hockey trades should work.

START THE PAPERWORK!!!!!!!!
- Only_A_Ladd

You kidding. That's so low ball. At least include a first round pick.

It'll be hard for anyone to nail this trade down.

The going rate is:
a) 2 first round picks
b) 2 prospects

Colorado's return for Duchene worked because they got a 4th overall pick, Ottawa's Duchene trade flopped because they received a ~20th overall pick.

I'd also look out for Tkachuk with 50% salary retained to a contender with a high end prospect + a 1st.

Ottawa - josh Norris / 1 round 2023
Eric Brannstrom


Calgary - Matthew Tkachuk

Note, there will be huge bidding wars, so return should be good - assuming Tkachuk given permission to talk w/teams for contract.

CBJ: has cap issues, would need to dump huge salary (eg Voracek) to do so, and that means sweetening the pot. Tkachuk FOR Voracek + Laine + 1st 2023 + 1st 2024 (or Bjorkstrand)


Realistically, teams that I think have easier pathway and will for a deal (cap space + pieces) are OTT, PHI, NJD, NYR, TOR. Some ideas:

OTT: DeBrincat + 1st + solid prospect
PHI: two of {Konecny, Farabee, Provorov} + 1st + prospect
NJD: Bratt + Severson + 1st
NYR: Lafreniere + 1st + solid prospect
TOR: Nylander + Kerfoot + 1st

These trades are god awful! Of course, they're written by unrealistic armchair GMs.

Flames fans, wtf makes you think Tkachuk will sign and trade? When tf do you ever see those in the NHL? It's so rare it's basically NEVER!

Calgary will have to trade him as a 1 year rental now or as a rental at the deadline (the return will be MUCH less by then.) Either way, you're NOT getting a king's ransom in return for a player that's only gonna have 1 year left. He's not resigning with you guys before a trade, not happening.

You kidding. That's so low ball. At least include a first round pick.
- Eman87654

I am kidding. It is an absurd deal. As a Kings fan? I love it.

These trades are god awful! Of course, they're written by unrealistic armchair GMs.

Flames fans, wtf makes you think Tkachuk will sign and trade? When tf do you ever see those in the NHL? It's so rare it's basically NEVER!

Calgary will have to trade him as a 1 year rental now or as a rental at the deadline (the return will be MUCH less by then.) Either way, you're NOT getting a king's ransom in return for a player that's only gonna have 1 year left. He's not resigning with you guys before a trade, not happening.
- jtylerm

CGY will get the standard 1-2 first round picks plus 2 prospects. Tkachuk finished what 6th overall in scoring? If the Flames retain 50% to a contender then absolutely Flames get multiple firsts.

CGY will get the standard 1-2 first round picks plus 2 prospects. Tkachuk finished what 6th overall in scoring? If the Flames retain 50% to a contender then absolutely Flames get multiple firsts.
- eastcanadAREaholes

He's a rental dude. you may get 2 firsts AT BEST. But all these 2 firsts plus a NHL top line player plus an A level prospect crap is DELUSIONAL for a rental. He's a rental. No one is paying out the ass for a player only 1 year from UFA and he's not resigning before a trade

He's a rental dude. you may get 2 firsts AT BEST. But all these 2 firsts plus a NHL top line player plus an A level prospect crap is DELUSIONAL for a rental. He's a rental. No one is paying out the ass for a player only 1 year from UFA and he's not resigning before a trade
- jtylerm

He doesn't have to be a rental. There are options that he is, and ones he's not.

Step 1 - Pittsburgh offer sheets Mangiapane

Step 2 - Flames sign Kessel to replace some lost scoring

Step 3 - Malkin quietly demands a trade to Calgary to play with Kessel and be a MAN.

Step 4 - Pittburgh trades Malkin and Mangiapane for Tkachuk

Step 5 - Flames new first line is Kessel-Malkin-Mangiapane

Who the heck are making these trade offers for Flyers? Terrible

Who the heck are making these trade offers for Flyers? Terrible
- mageejames40

Fletcher and Flahr

Sincerely,
Ligma