Yup & why shouldn’t he. He wants to get paid & he will but also greed only goes so far. Being an integral part of what is going on has its merits. 6/9m is 54m & I think he can scratch out an ok living on it.
- Nighthawk

So what you’re saying is Johnny Gaudreau is a better hockey player?

So what you’re saying is Johnny Gaudreau is a better hockey player?
- 1970vintage

Not at all. CBJ had to offer that & JG was going to get that anyways more if resigned. Life choices were his biggest reasons. Idk if the same boat for Miller. Miller is an alpha & leads the team but I said he appreciates what Van did to get him & how his career took off. That has to be worth something.

Not at all. CBJ had to offer that & JG was going to get that anyways more if resigned. Life choices were his biggest reasons. Idk if the same boat for Miller. Miller is an alpha & leads the team but I said he appreciates what Van did to get him & how his career took off. That has to be worth something.
- Nighthawk

Get that C from Beta Bo.

If a 7yr term how much would Miller take a shave if at all?
- Nighthawk

If a 7yr term how much would Miller take a shave if at all?
- Nighthawk

Didn't they say there is a 6 year deal on the table for Miller?

Weird how Wild are drafting forwards over 6' now that Brackett is running the show there.
- manvanfan

It is weird that he is not at all running the show and Guerin has been drafting big guys for quite some time now.

So what you’re saying is Johnny Gaudreau is a better hockey player?
- 1970vintage

Better and younger, don’t forget. Although according to the last thread a guy being a few years younger make no difference

Didn't they say there is a 6 year deal on the table for Miller?
- manvanfan

Why would he sign a six year deal unless the AAV was up up and away.

Wanting a payday isn’t greedy. Guys want to do well for themselves, but they also want to be paid fairly compared to their peers. Legit top line centers who are top 10 scorers earn well. Matthews, McDavid etc. Van has an advantage of being able to go 8 years, but every other team who would sign him would give him 7.

Also, the players union would have a conniption if he were to sign under market rate, that would bring everyone down as a reference point.

Btw not a fan of a 7yr term but if the coin is ok then for cap reasons it might be the way it goes. Still holding out for 6yrs. So much depends on JR/PA & their vision long term & betting on Miller ages well. Imo 3-4 good to great years is possible. 6yr term makes the most sense but hard to negotiate. It’ll all come down to Miller feeling appreciated on the highest level & a fantastic sales job of what the clubs future plans are. That means he’s in on deeper talk on how the team proceeds.

Get that C from Beta Bo.
- VanHockeyGuy

Possible but sends a message that I don’t think will go over well. Unless Bo is cool with it or is even in on it to keep Miller happier & in the fold.

Get that C from Beta Bo.
- VanHockeyGuy

Be cause we all know that Miller can't lead players unless he has a C on his jersey.


I think Bo is better suited for dealing with the refs, media and charities/social etc. The only real difference the superficial letter makes on this team. People can be so narrow minded...

Didn't they say there is a 6 year deal on the table for Miller?
- manvanfan

Idk I’m outta the loop til recently.

Why would he sign a six year deal unless the AAV was up up and away.

Wanting a payday isn’t greedy. Guys want to do well for themselves, but they also want to be paid fairly compared to their peers. Legit top line centers who are top 10 scorers earn well. Matthews, McDavid etc. Van has an advantage of being able to go 8 years, but every other team who would sign him would give him 7.

Also, the players union would have a conniption if he were to sign under market rate, that would bring everyone down as a reference point.
- 1970vintage

I have no problem with a player getting paid but Miller isn't Matthews, McDavid. He's Forsberg, Landeskog.

Why would he sign a six year deal unless the AAV was up up and away.

Wanting a payday isn’t greedy. Guys want to do well for themselves, but they also want to be paid fairly compared to their peers. Legit top line centers who are top 10 scorers earn well. Matthews, McDavid etc. Van has an advantage of being able to go 8 years, but every other team who would sign him would give him 7.

Also, the players union would have a conniption if he were to sign under market rate, that would bring everyone down as a reference point.
- 1970vintage

On the latter the cap will always mean teams will spend within their means. Theoretically lol

How the pie is sliced will be the same sized pie. Players sign for their reasons whether max ducats or team building reasons. Comes down to faith in mgmt & seeing a real plan is in place. So is there a real plan in place?

Be cause we all know that Miller can't lead players unless he has a C on his jersey.


I think Bo is better suited for dealing with the refs, media and charities/social etc. The only real difference the superficial letter makes on this team. People can be so narrow minded...
- boonerbuck

The C has morphed more into dealing with the media & less on ice ref talks. That said any player nowadays gets the refs ear instead of a ref ignoring those without the C or A. Personally imo the refs don’t or shouldn’t answer to just anyone.

I have no problem with a player getting paid but Miller isn't Matthews, McDavid. He's Forsberg, Landeskog.
- manvanfan

So 8 years, $8.5 then? I agree, that’s probably where he would slot in, which would be a mistake.

So 8 years, $8.5 then? I agree, that’s probably where he would slot in, which would be a mistake.
- 1970vintage

Total of 67m oof

Maybe in todays market about right but that extra year or 2 looks scary. The total $ is one way an agent will see it but it doesn’t make it logical. 7/8m sounds more palatable for 56m. The yearly amount looks low but ways around that. If 6/9m it’s another 3m hit but higher annually.

The big Q is what the total amount Miller will seek to get a deal done.

So 8 years, $8.5 then? I agree, that’s probably where he would slot in, which would be a mistake.
- 1970vintage

And queue the wussy Magnet train if it is any longer than 5 years

So 8 years, $8.5 then? I agree, that’s probably where he would slot in, which would be a mistake.
- 1970vintage

He’s not worth that, long term that would bite the organization in the ass.

He’s not worth that, long term that would bite the organization in the ass.
- LeftCoaster

and in the Richardenson

So 8 years, $8.5 then? I agree, that’s probably where he would slot in, which would be a mistake.
- 1970vintage

I don't think Van wants to pay Miller till he's 38. Forsberg and others that are getting 8 years are going to be 36 when it ends. Zinbejad signed an 8 year deal, he will be 37 when it ends. That's also 8x8.5

Logan Couture 8x8 at 30 and 3 years in is declining on a poor team.

Be cause we all know that Miller can't lead players unless he has a C on his jersey.


I think Bo is better suited for dealing with the refs, media and charities/social etc. The only real difference the superficial letter makes on this team. People can be so narrow minded...
- boonerbuck

Who wears the 'C' for the Canucks is the last thing this team needs to worry about. Focus on the unravelling.

So 8 years, $8.5 then? I agree, that’s probably where he would slot in, which would be a mistake.
- 1970vintage

The C has morphed more into dealing with the media & less on ice ref talks. That said any player nowadays gets the refs ear instead of a ref ignoring those without the C or A. Personally imo the refs don’t or shouldn’t answer to just anyone.
- Nighthawk

Sure but when something goes down and the refs stand in their little half circle to discuss something that happened on the ice, only the players with letters have their ear. Letters are still relevant in the relationship with the officials.