Cant wait to see for how much less Heinen sings for.
- sammy87

I bet he has a melodic baritone. Does he do singing telegrams?

I don’t understand. How do you watch him from last season and say “he’s worth the same price but for 2 years!”.

Do no free agents of note want to come to Pittsburgh?
- drummer829

*Cough Cough* Rakell *Cough Cough*

Damn... Both Pennsylvania teams are paying way too much for mediocre players.

So much for making a last run at a cup for you guys but hey... At least you're not Philly with Chuck "fleece me" feltcher at the helm

It's sad to see the last few years of geno and Sid get wasted by poor cap management but that's what hexy does... This is the same guy who paid a 1 dimensional player names JVR 7m per year

Hexy sucks. Good luck with him. He singlehandedly set the flyers franchise back about 5 years with his piss poor drafting. Good luck dealing with hexy

Nino is so much more suited for Sully, not to mention the better overall player, and only cost 800k more than Kap.. Yes, I know, we don't know for sure if he would want to even sign with Pens but I doubt his agent was even talked to. Hex got who they wanted, including Kap.

*Cough Cough* Rakell *Cough Cough*
- MattStrat

Signed before free agency though because Hex was still offering the 6 year special

I don’t understand. How do you watch him from last season and say “he’s worth the same price but for 2 years!”.

Do no free agents of note want to come to Pittsburgh?
- drummer829

Nope. Pitts has too much money tied into an aged(aging) core, which makes getting any decent free agents difficult.

Nope. Pitts has too much money tied into an aged(aging) core, which makes getting any decent free agents difficult.
- chimpira

If we had not signed Rutta and not qualified or traded Kapanen’s rights (both completely in our power to do) w would have close to $6 mil in space. If we had done that and managed to trade an LD for cap space like we did with Marino we would have had near $10 mil in space and been poised to do some serious overhaul to our supporting cast. The core is all on good to great contracts. The aged core isn’t what’s holding us back from building a good roster.

If we had not signed Rutta and not qualified or traded Kapanen’s rights (both completely in our power to do) w would have close to $6 mil in space. If we had done that and managed to trade an LD for cap space like we did with Marino we would have had near $10 mil in space and been poised to do some serious overhaul to our supporting cast. The core is all on good to great contracts. The aged core isn’t what’s holding us back from building a good roster.
- Victoro311

Like this is pretty realistic and nothing super crazy:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
Milano-Malkin-Rackell
Zucker-Carter-Niederreiter
Larsson-Blueger-McGinn
DOC

Petterson or Dumoulin-Letang
Matheson-Marino
POJ/Friedman-Ruhwedel

Jarry
DeSmith

How much better does that look? Also if you want the 3C insurance you could have done Strome instead of Nino and pushed Carter to RW.

Nope. Pitts has too much money tied into an aged(aging) core, which makes getting any decent free agents difficult.
- chimpira

The money tied into the core has nothing to do with poor contracts to Kap and Ruutta and to a lesser extent Carter, Archi, DeSmith. those are all self inflicted wounds.

Signed before free agency though because Hex was still offering the 6 year special
- Feds91Stammer

Technically right haha... He was about to be a UFA and was only on Pens for like 4 weeks and 1.5 playoff games. Said he really wanted to come back, loved it there. Thats not quite the same in my mind as say Tanger or Geno extending.. Rakell would of been one of the better wingers available.

Rutta was a UFA. So was Heinin, ERod, Tanev, Gonchar.. Others haha.. Just had a look down through their history of FA signings in Sid and Geno era and its pretty lackluster.. Now in saying that some lesser names/contracts really worked out but there certainly hasn't been many big tickets like Gonch, who signed before Geno arrived.

If we had not signed Rutta and not qualified or traded Kapanen’s rights (both completely in our power to do) w would have close to $6 mil in space. If we had done that and managed to trade an LD for cap space like we did with Marino we would have had near $10 mil in space and been poised to do some serious overhaul to our supporting cast. The core is all on good to great contracts. The aged core isn’t what’s holding us back from building a good roster.
- Victoro311

Carter, Kap, Mcginn and Rutta are 11.8 combined. I really know nothing of Ruuta but that could have been $$ for Nino and Heinen. This team is just meh.

The money tied into the core has nothing to do with poor contracts to Kap and Ruutta and to a lesser extent Carter, Archi, DeSmith. those are all self inflicted wounds.
- j.boyd919

Self-inflicted wounds?? Don't you blaspheme in here! Our Lord and Savior Ronald Hext-ALL will show us the way!

Ok aging core + many many many bad contracts. Which is mind-boggling. Some of the terms given out are borderline criminal, IMO.

Technically right haha... He was about to be a UFA and was only on Pens for like 4 weeks and 1.5 playoff games. Said he really wanted to come back, loved it there. Thats not quite the same in my mind as say Tanger or Geno extending.. Rakell would of been one of the better wingers available.

Rutta was a UFA. So was Heinin, ERod, Tanev, Gonchar.. Others haha.. Just had a look down through their history of FA signings in Sid and Geno era and its pretty lackluster.. Now in saying that some lesser names/contracts really worked out but there certainly hasn't been many big tickets like Gonch, who signed before Geno arrived.
- MattStrat

Paul Martin was probably the next biggest FA we got after Gonch. Michalek maybe? After that I feel like the most excited I’ve gotten for a free agent in the past X amount of years is Eric Fehr because he seemed like the best bottom 6 UFA center available and I desperately wanted to be done with Sutter. Then funny enough he wasn’t even the guy that replaced Sutter and was very meh all around here.

Carter, Kap, Mcginn and Rutta are 11.8 combined. I really know nothing of Ruuta but that could have been $$ for Nino and Heinen. This team is just meh.
- sammy87

We straight up May have the worst bottom six in the league. This team may be worse than meh. A couple of key injuries and we could possibly miss the playoffs cus there is no one in the bottom six that can play up right now.

We straight up May have the worst bottom six in the league. This team may be worse than meh. A couple of key injuries and we could possibly miss the playoffs cus there is no one in the bottom six that can play up right now.
- Victoro311

Odds are Malkin and Zucker miss 40 man games combined is a high possibility. Crosby for his style and age, id put down for 10.

We straight up May have the worst bottom six in the league. This team may be worse than meh. A couple of key injuries and we could possibly miss the playoffs cus there is no one in the bottom six that can play up right now.
- Victoro311

Kapanen for JvR

Paul Martin was probably the next biggest FA we got after Gonch. Michalek maybe? After that I feel like the most excited I’ve gotten for a free agent in the past X amount of years is Eric Fehr because he seemed like the best bottom 6 UFA center available and I desperately wanted to be done with Sutter. Then funny enough he wasn’t even the guy that replaced Sutter and was very meh all around here.
- Victoro311

Oh yeah Martin! .. I must of breezed over him when scanning down through list. I really liked his game.

Hahah I liked when Fehr joined too... He wasn't too bad for 4C..scored a big goal in 2016 run, game winner to tie series 1-1vs Caps.. Had he not scored that, who knows what would of happened...

Odds are Malkin and Zucker miss 40 man games combined is a high possibility. Crosby for his style and age, id put down for 10.
- sammy87

This doesn't exactly make sense...but I think I know what you're saying and I agree.

Odds are Malkin and Zucker miss 40 man games combined is a high possibility. Crosby for his style and age, id put down for 10.
- sammy87

Odds are you miss all 82

We straight up May have the worst bottom six in the league. This team may be worse than meh. A couple of key injuries and we could possibly miss the playoffs cus there is no one in the bottom six that can play up right now.
- Victoro311

Not worst. But most expensive for what they bring for sure.

Zucker's contract, Petersson's contract, Kapanen 1.9 dead cap hit: I see the Pens are having a very hard time cleaning up JR's (frank)ing mess!

Zucker's contract, Petersson's contract, Kapanen 1.9 dead cap hit: I see the Pens are having a very hard time cleaning up JR's (frank)ing mess!
- stevens87

One of these is not like the others

One of these is not like the others
- Feds91Stammer

I included Kapanen because he gave up a first round pick just two years ago and they are going to give him every last chance or else just another wasted high draft choice!

I included Kapanen because he gave up a first round pick just two years ago and they are going to give him every last chance or else just another wasted high draft choice!
- stevens87

Pettersson is not like the others.

Pettersson is not like the others.
- Feds91Stammer

What's different about him? People here have wanted the Pens to get rid of him for two years!