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Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 23 @ 12:32 AM ET
Ironic part is, I think the Sabres got more for Eichel then Calgary will ultimately end up with when the dust settles.

Unless you think there is a remote chance Huberdeau or Weegar resigns.

- Pegullaville


WoW, one of those players you could see playing his whole career with your team. Barky and Hubie, the dynamic duo and all that...

Gonna have to follow Calgary more this season, wonder how long it’ll take for his tan to fade. I wonder how he’s taking the news.... I wonder what Barkov thinks.

Holy poop, they traded Huberdeau


He may very well end up a Hab, if they have cap room to sign him next summer.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 23 @ 12:40 AM ET
And other than Colorado, played Tampa better than any team I’ve seen in 3 years.

Whomever won that series was going to the cup.

- Pegullaville

FL would’ve beaten the Leafs, though...


Maybe not, but at least would’ve been a hell of a fun series to watch.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 23 @ 1:14 AM ET
I would be on the phone with the Flames trying to get Huberdeau if I was Adams.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 23 @ 1:35 AM ET
I would be on the phone with the Flames trying to get Huberdeau if I was Adams.
- SABRES 89

He is like 42

He doesn’t punch faces

His contract something something

He will block our prospects
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:03 AM ET
Eichel should get more, but I don't think he did. A Huberdeau deadline deal would be worth a ton.
- Lunaion


As a pending UFA? What is a ton?

A late first and what else?

He's going to be 30 when he needs to sign an extension, and he does not play a remotely physical game, or much defense.

I'm very dubious on a so-called massive deadline return for Huberdeau.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:12 AM ET
Totally agree with the below, as contract status and age are massively important when assessing players and trades.

I love Weegar, but he's not a first pair defender on a potential cup winning team to me.

Ideally, he's the anchor of the 2nd pair.

Oh, he's also about to get paid.

Assuming either or both garner massive returns if Calgary trades them feels more than a bit presumptive.

FLA get 8 full years of M Tkachuk's prime. He adds a missing cycle element to FLA's elite offense and his defensive impact will make up for Weegar leaving. They move off of a one way winger whose next contract will age badly and a good D whose skating got exposed 2x vs TBL.

https://twitter.com/Accou...Vrtf5JOr8eJjshKbqx0Q&s=19
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 23 @ 6:03 AM ET
Totally agree with the below, as contract status and age are massively important when assessing players and trades.

I love Weegar, but he's not a first pair defender on a potential cup winning team to me.

Ideally, he's the anchor of the 2nd pair.

Oh, he's also about to get paid.

Assuming either or both garner massive returns if Calgary trades them feels more than a bit presumptive.

FLA get 8 full years of M Tkachuk's prime. He adds a missing cycle element to FLA's elite offense and his defensive impact will make up for Weegar leaving. They move off of a one way winger whose next contract will age badly and a good D whose skating got exposed 2x vs TBL.

https://twitter.com/Accou...Vrtf5JOr8eJjshKbqx0Q&s=19

- kingcong39

And another signing for under 10m, not a bad contract 9.5m for Tkachuk.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 23 @ 7:56 AM ET
Tampa lost to Columbus because Vasy was dreadful. They then went to theee straight cups winning two because Vasy played like the best goalie in the world.

Tampa’s style didn’t change at all’s

- Pegullaville


A) Yes and no.
B) wrong, completely wrong.

Vasy was ok, not great. Tampa's run and gun style of 0lay, cheating for offensive opportunities and not locking it down defensively was THE primary reason they lost.

Cooper spent a ton of time, energy and practice e drilling the team on playing a defensive 1st style of play, then run and gun when the opportunity presents itself. They learned how fo lock it down and be defensively solid. They in fact did change their style of play.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 23 @ 8:02 AM ET
A) Yes and no.
B) wrong, completely wrong.

Vasy was ok, not great. Tampa's run and gun style of 0lay, cheating for offensive opportunities and not locking it down defensively was THE primary reason they lost.

Cooper spent a ton of time, energy and practice e drilling the team on playing a defensive 1st style of play, then run and gun when the opportunity presents itself. They learned how fo lock it down and be defensively solid. They in fact did change their style of play.

- IonSabres

And that D was on full display in that Rangers series, those last few games
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:07 AM ET
Tampa got to the cup on experience this year

They were absolutely gassed and injured in even the Rangers series.

- sbroads24


Truth.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 8:17 AM ET
That’s a motherload for Tkachuck
- lulags

2 rentals, a first rd pick down the road and a 3rd rd prospect
Tkachuk is 4 years younger then Huberdeau

IMO it keeps the panthers window open for a while

and the flames trade off the rentals for futures

plus the panthers now have some more grit in their top 6 for the playoffs
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:26 AM ET
And another signing for under 10m, not a bad contract 9.5m for Tkachuk.
- Buff36


I love this trade for the Cats. That contract should age pretty nicely...as with most 8 year contracts, maybe the last year or two could see decline in value. He brings some nice grit up front and obviously scoring.

Love Hubbie, but man CGY 's return isn't as rosy as it st appears. Weegar is over-rated defensively and his offense production is enhanced being on that team IMO. He was being offered up for trade anyway...If he gets big money it won't be the smartest move.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 8:29 AM ET
I love this trade for the Cats. That contract should age pretty nicely...as with most 8 year contracts, maybe the last year or two could see decline in value. He brings some nice grit up front and obviously scoring.

Love Hubbie, but man CGY 's return isn't as rosy as it st appears. Weegar is over-rated defensively and his offense production is enhanced being on that team IMO. He was being offered up for trade anyway...If he gets big money it won't be the smartest move.

- IonSabres

calgary probably flips both players either before the season or at the deadline IMO
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:31 AM ET
fascinating trade
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 8:34 AM ET
fascinating trade
- robz228

good teams find ways to keep window open longer
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
This trade is one giant TBD. Idk how you can even grade it for another year or so.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
I love this trade for the Cats. That contract should age pretty nicely...as with most 8 year contracts, maybe the last year or two could see decline in value. He brings some nice grit up front and obviously scoring.

Love Hubbie, but man CGY 's return isn't as rosy as it st appears. Weegar is over-rated defensively and his offense production is enhanced being on that team IMO. He was being offered up for trade anyway...If he gets big money it won't be the smartest move.

- IonSabres

Weegar falls apart in the playoffs, last 2yrs he probably cost them 3 playoff games
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 23 @ 8:37 AM ET
good teams find ways to keep window open longer
- homiedclown

With the extension think Florida is still 4m over the cap. Still gonna have to move someone. But it's a good trade for them.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 8:44 AM ET
With the extension think Florida is still 4m over the cap. Still gonna have to move someone. But it's a good trade for them.
- Buff36

Duclair will be going to IR
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 23 @ 8:55 AM ET
Duclair will be going to IR
- homiedclown

Yeah didn't think about that
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 23 @ 9:01 AM ET
2 rentals, a first rd pick down the road and a 3rd rd prospect
Tkachuk is 4 years younger then Huberdeau

IMO it keeps the panthers window open for a while

and the flames trade off the rentals for futures

plus the panthers now have some more grit in their top 6 for the playoffs

- homiedclown


Panthers are about $3.4m over the $82.5 Cap Ceiling, have no 1st rd and only 2 2nd rounders over the next 3 years and a bit weak on D now.

Duclair, Gudas ($5.5m)
For
Murray, Pilut, '23-2nd ($1.5m) [throw a '23-3rd if necessary]
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 23 @ 9:01 AM ET
Duclair will be going to IR
- homiedclown

That buys them half the season to get under the cap, gonna have to do something when Duclair is ready to return.
I think they still need to make another 750k of room even after Duclair put on IR.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 23 @ 9:05 AM ET
Duclair will be going to IR
- homiedclown


Didn't hear about him, what happened?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 23 @ 9:14 AM ET
Didn't hear about him, what happened?
- IonSabres

Blew out his friggin Achilles’ tendon working out.


Worrisome, as his speed is is biggest asset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1irS0aXs1o
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 23 @ 9:14 AM ET
This trade is one giant TBD. Idk how you can even grade it for another year or so.
- IceColdBeer


Flip Huberdeau if he doesn’t want to extend. The flames definitely cashed in nicely.

I feel for the flames. I wonder what is wrong with the organization.

Johnny hockey was given a bag …… he said no.

Now baby chunker is in Florida after saying he won’t resign.
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