Trading prospects too early hurts as well.

Guess it's a pessimistic morning lunaion?
- Boss34

There's more to improving a team than hoping for internal development. Nothing pessimistic about that. At some point, KA is going to have to make an actual hockey trade.

There's more to improving a team than hoping for internal development. Nothing pessimistic about that. At some point, KA is going to have to make an actual hockey trade.
- Lunaion

Didn't he try and the players denied him....

The players outside the org. don't seem to want to be here.

We don't need more Leino's not giving a flying f

There's more to improving a team than hoping for internal development. Nothing pessimistic about that. At some point, KA is going to have to make an actual hockey trade.
- Lunaion

Joker is 22 and you've given up on him.

pessimistic..... tending to see the worst aspect of things or believe that the worst will happen.
"he was pessimistic about the prospects"

They even gave prospects as an example in the definition ☝️

Joker is 22 and you've given up on him.

pessimistic..... tending to see the worst aspect of things or believe that the worst will happen.
"he was pessimistic about the prospects"

They even gave prospects as an example in the definition ☝️
- Boss34

flip side

optimistic

if you keep giving girgens extensions, maybe someday he will play like a 14th overall pick instead of putting up .28 points per game

I'm not high on Joker. I stuck by Dahlin's side since the second he was drafted. But Joker, I'm just not really seeing his relevance. He has a couple years to hit his prime, but he's very partner-dependent. Power brought out the best in him, and so did Scandella. He was horrid with Dahlin, and they stuck with that tandem for way, way too long. Think this team would be better off upgrading him if possible.

I'm not high on Joker. I stuck by Dahlin's side since the second he was drafted. But Joker, I'm just not really seeing his relevance. He has a couple years to hit his prime, but he's very partner-dependent. Power brought out the best in him, and so did Scandella. He was horrid with Dahlin, and they stuck with that tandem for way, way too long. Think this team would be better off upgrading him if possible.
- TheSabresTaco

getting an upgrade would be holding Albert Lyckasen back though

getting an upgrade would be holding Albert Lyckasen back though
- homiedclown

jokes aside i don't think he's an nhl prospect.

flip side

optimistic

if you keep giving girgens extensions, maybe someday he will play like a 14th overall pick instead of putting up .28 points per game
- homiedclown

156 career points and only a -61 playing his entire career for this train wreck organization.

I realize you havnt had your daily argument yet and it's almost 11 am. Not biting.

Talk about optimism - fritz should be waking up soon, you'll be all set to play victim all afternoon and evening.

jokes aside i don't think he's an nhl prospect.
- TheSabresTaco

agreed

flip side

optimistic

if you keep giving girgens extensions, maybe someday he will play like a 14th overall pick instead of putting up .28 points per game
- homiedclown

We knew girgs would never be more than a 15-15-30 guy after his first 3 seasons. Jokers played way less games through his 4 seasons and we all know it takes most D longer to get to their prime.

156 career points and only a -61 playing his entire career for this train wreck organization.

I realize you havnt had your daily argument yet and it's almost 11 am. Not biting.

Talk about optimism - fritz should be waking up soon, you'll be all set to play victim all afternoon and evening.
- Boss34

so it's a one way street?


heaven forbid someone have a hockey conversation about a bust

I'm not high on Joker. I stuck by Dahlin's side since the second he was drafted. But Joker, I'm just not really seeing his relevance. He has a couple years to hit his prime, but he's very partner-dependent. Power brought out the best in him, and so did Scandella. He was horrid with Dahlin, and they stuck with that tandem for way, way too long. Think this team would be better off upgrading him if possible.
- TheSabresTaco

He showed some flashes last year... and then would disappear for games.

He just turned 23. Still very young

I'm not high on Joker. I stuck by Dahlin's side since the second he was drafted. But Joker, I'm just not really seeing his relevance. He has a couple years to hit his prime, but he's very partner-dependent. Power brought out the best in him, and so did Scandella. He was horrid with Dahlin, and they stuck with that tandem for way, way too long. Think this team would be better off upgrading him if possible.
- TheSabresTaco

I'm seeing joker as a valuable trade asset, not someone we're getting rid of because of his failed play.

Not sure why we need to upgrade the 4 or 5 defenseman more than we just did with buch?

Top (2) 1OA'S and samuelsson are going to play 80 - 85 of the 120 minutes. Mostly the important times.

We knew girgs would never be more than a 15-15-30 guy after his first 3 seasons. Jokers played way less games through his 4 seasons and we all know it takes most D longer to get to their prime.
- DirtyDan

30?


he has not got 20 points in a season since 2014-15

30?


he has not got 20 points in a season since 2014-15
- homiedclown

I said he wouldn't be more than that.

I realize he hasn't even sniffed those numbers since. I was being nice. You should try it

Top (2) 1OA'S and samuelsson are going to play 80 - 85 of the 120 minutes. Mostly the important times.
- Boss34

no chance those 3 average 27 or 28 minutes a night


more like 70 minutes a night

so it's a one way street?


heaven forbid someone have a hockey conversation about a bust


- homiedclown

Like I said, fritz will be here soon to help you feel like the victim.

Oh poor me, I was just talking hockey 😥

I said he wouldn't be more than that.

I realize he hasn't even sniffed those numbers since. I was being nice. You should try it

- DirtyDan

I thought I was being nice this morning

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zero insults on anything other than Flint Michigan

We knew girgs would never be more than a 15-15-30 guy after his first 3 seasons. Jokers played way less games through his 4 seasons and we all know it takes most D longer to get to their prime.
- DirtyDan

he is an NHL all star

Like I said, fritz will be here soon to help you feel like the victim.

Oh poor me, I was just talking hockey 😥
- Boss34

thanks TOUGH guy

he is an NHL all star
- SabresFaninIndiana

the next chris drury

Joker hopefully keeps growing at maturing. He's still very young. If anything he's the perfect 3rd pair guy, or trade chip.

I thought I was being nice this morning

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zero insults on anything other than Flint Michigan
- homiedclown

Flint doesn't deserve it.

30?


he has not got 20 points in a season since 2014-15
- homiedclown

59 of 71 career goals scored at even strength.

Flint doesn't deserve it.

- DirtyDan

flint makes hamilton look like paradise