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Forums :: Blog World :: Trevor Neufeld: Tkachuk Traded to the Panthers for Jonathan Huberdeau, Weegar, Futures
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flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 1:02 AM ET
Huberdeau would be a humongous trade deadline chip if Flames falter at all. But I think we resign him. If Treliving doesnt think he can resign, he may just flip Huberdeau, maybe Jersey values Huberdeau as much or more as Tkachuk?
- Kevin R


He either waived or didn't have Calgary on his no trade list

after the last few weeks I highly doubt they do this deal without at least discussing a deal
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:05 AM ET
Yeah, and we're still 40 goals and 100 points short. Which is no-playoffs zone.
- redseerpf


Hockey isn't math, but subtract 40 goals from the Flames' total last year and assume they don't replace that with anything. They still have the third most goals and best goal differential in the division.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 23 @ 1:07 AM ET
Mangiapane getting 40+ G next year
- FLflames34

Just has to keep his stick down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXSKueTiNL0


Bennett ever play on line w/Tkachuk up there?
Sam is gonna miss Hubie
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 23 @ 1:09 AM ET
You can't be serious...this roster is 100% a playoff team. Have you seen the division? And they aren't done IMO

They also improved the D quite a bit

- flashfire


If Monahan doesn't get back to at least 25 goals, their forward ranks are very shallow and they'll have trouble scoring.

Also, regarding the division, Oilers and Kings are locks, Vancouver and Vegas will likely battle for the 3rd spot. Seattle, we don't know, but they could surprise. That leaves CGY in a wild card spot against the Central teams (COL, MIN, NAS, STL, DAL). Good luck!
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:09 AM ET
Just has to keep his stick down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXSKueTiNL0


Bennett ever play on line w/Tkachuk up there?
Sam is gonna miss Hubie

- Ratsreign


Bennett kind of got screwed over/screwed himself over at every opportunity. I don't think he ever spent more than a week on the top line.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:10 AM ET
Sounds good enough to me. I'll send the papers!
- redseerpf

You got it my friend! Lassi Thomson is what Troy Mann, the HC in Belleville....called him overbaked for the NHL....and that JBD will be in the same boat come next summer!
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 23 @ 1:11 AM ET
Shoulders are hard to recover from too....I remember Vinny Lecavalier telling me it took him 2 years for his shoulder to feel like it did prior to the injury!
- Kevin Francis

They announced a couple weeks ago, he’s ahead of schedule and they think he’ll be ready for the start of the season.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 23 @ 1:15 AM ET
Hockey isn't math, but subtract 40 goals from the Flames' total last year and assume they don't replace that with anything. They still have the third most goals and best goal differential in the division.
- Squeaky


Kings got better, Vancouver will be better, Seattle too, Knights will have a full year of Eichel, just like that, we might be 4th or 5th in the division.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 23 @ 1:15 AM ET
You got it my friend! Lassi Thomson is what Troy Mann, the HC in Belleville....called him overbaked for the NHL....and that JBD will be in the same boat come next summer!
- Kevin Francis

Lassi was a great Rocket, didn’t stick around long enough.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 23 @ 1:18 AM ET
Kings got better, Vancouver will be better, Seattle too, Knights will have a full year of Eichel, just like that, we might be 4th or 5th in the division.
- redseerpf


There’s no way the Flames don’t finish top 2 in the Pacific. Vezina goaltending, great defence, additions of Pelletier and Mangiapani getting top line minutes and more pp time.
I would love to see a rebuild, but don’t believe ownership will allow one.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:20 AM ET
Kings got better, Vancouver will be better, Seattle too, Knights will have a full year of Eichel, just like that, we might be 4th or 5th in the division.
- redseerpf


How many of those teams have 5 top 4 d-men, arguably 4 top 2 d-men and Markstrom?
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 23 @ 1:21 AM ET

There’s no way the Flames don’t finish top 2 in the Pacific. Vezina goaltending, great defence, additions of Pelletier and Mangiapani getting top line minutes and more pp time.
I would love to see a rebuild, but don’t believe ownership will allow one.

- K-man25


Mange will get eaten alive if he plays top line non-sheltered minutes. He's pretty much the perfect 2nd liner, but no more.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 23 @ 1:23 AM ET
How many of those teams have 5 top 4 d-men, arguably 4 top 2 d-men and Markstrom?
- Squeaky


How many of those teams might end up having Backlund as their 1C?
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:24 AM ET
Lassi was a great Rocket, didn’t stick around long enough.
- K-man25


Yes! And a bomb of a shot from the point......
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 23 @ 1:25 AM ET
Hey, i'm not cheering for the flames to fail, we might be very good, I actually hope so.

I'd just absolutely hate to end up the season with a 2nd place Pacific spot as if it meant anything, then out in the 2nd round of the playoffs again and Hubs+Weegar gone as ufa. It would kill this franchise.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:26 AM ET
They announced a couple weeks ago, he’s ahead of schedule and they think he’ll be ready for the start of the season.
- K-man25

VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Jul 23 @ 1:28 AM ET
"During the 2020/2021 season, we learned that Matthew Tkachuk’s game really really suffered without fans. Don’t know how he’s going to survive 8 years of that."
— Heather Hickey (@heatherhickey) https://twitter.com/heath...32899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 23 @ 1:32 AM ET

There’s no way the Flames don’t finish top 2 in the Pacific. Vezina goaltending, great defence, additions of Pelletier and Mangiapani getting top line minutes and more pp time.
I would love to see a rebuild, but don’t believe ownership will allow one.

- K-man25


Happy for you.
Now go tell that Lordy fella to F- Off
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:40 AM ET
Hey, i'm not cheering for the flames to fail, we might be very good, I actually hope so.

I'd just absolutely hate to end up the season with a 2nd place Pacific spot as if it meant anything, then out in the 2nd round of the playoffs again and Hubs+Weegar gone as ufa. It would kill this franchise.

- redseerpf


Why do you keep saying it would kill the franchise. 2nd round of the playoffs is a successful season, and the best way to rebuild is to be really bad for a few years. They won't lose them for nothing because they came with a first and a decent prospect. It's a win no matter how you spin it. Tkachuk was traded for at least one more season of being a good team AND a pick and a prospect.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 23 @ 1:41 AM ET
How many of those teams might end up having Backlund as their 1C?
- redseerpf


What?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 23 @ 1:42 AM ET
Happy for you.
Now go tell that Lordy fella to F- Off

- Reubenkincade


Fan the Flame
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 03.06.2022

Jul 23 @ 3:40 AM ET
Thanks Trevor.

Tkachuk is 24 years old and has committed to Florida for 8 years.

Huberdeau is 29 and Weeger is 28. Both are UFAS after this year and it seems, there have been no extensions agreed to for either player.

The first round pick is conditional but a huge positive regardless.

The Flames brass are familiar with the 21 year old Cole Schwinlt.

The success or failure of this trade will depend on the Flames ability to maneuver contract extensions, a process that will be made a little more difficult due to their respective ages, but shorter terms at competitive money can handle that.

The fact that Huberdeau and Weeger are both Canadian and moving to a Canadian team should help.

It is not a slam dunk as many seem to think, but under the circumstances one could argue for either side as winners.

I have been a critic of Treliving but like my grandma use to say " give credit where credit is due."



flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 4:11 AM ET
If Monahan doesn't get back to at least 25 goals, their forward ranks are very shallow and they'll have trouble scoring.

Also, regarding the division, Oilers and Kings are locks, Vancouver and Vegas will likely battle for the 3rd spot. Seattle, we don't know, but they could surprise. That leaves CGY in a wild card spot against the Central teams (COL, MIN, NAS, STL, DAL). Good luck!

- redseerpf


lol this guy...Flames are top 3 for sure
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 4:14 AM ET
Kings got better, Vancouver will be better, Seattle too, Knights will have a full year of Eichel, just like that, we might be 4th or 5th in the division.
- redseerpf


can I just take your money now?
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 4:15 AM ET
Thanks Trevor.

Tkachuk is 24 years old and has committed to Florida for 8 years.

Huberdeau is 29 and Weeger is 28. Both are UFAS after this year and it seems, there have been no extensions agreed to for either player.

The first round pick is conditional but a huge positive regardless.

The Flames brass are familiar with the 21 year old Cole Schwinlt.

The success or failure of this trade will depend on the Flames ability to maneuver contract extensions, a process that will be made a little more difficult due to their respective ages, but shorter terms at competitive money can handle that.

The fact that Huberdeau and Weeger are both Canadian and moving to a Canadian team should help.

It is not a slam dunk as many seem to think, but under the circumstances one could argue for either side as winners.

I have been a critic of Treliving but like my grandma use to say " give credit where credit is due."

- Fan the Flame


Huberdeau at 29 skates better than Tkachuk at 24

Tkachuk has great hands around the net but his line mates carried the puck
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