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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: State Of The Pacific: Sizing Up Canucks' Competition For Next Season Pt. 2
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 24 @ 7:00 PM ET
They’ve actually improved the PK quite a bit, I agree with Lefty, D is still the biggest factor for this team.
- neem55


If they hadn’t improved their PK they never would have been anywhere near the bubble last season.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
If they hadn’t improved their PK they never would have been anywhere near the bubble last season.
- 1970vintage

Lazar and Miky are also very solid upgrades in that department
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
They’ve actually improved the PK quite a bit, I agree with Lefty, D is still the biggest factor for this team.
- neem55

Yes but better team D should be more reasonable to ask. Expecting better offence being healthier at this time. Should impact the D helping breakouts. Still the D has to show real growth & it’s there to be had. OEL & Bones 1 year later will be what to watch. Hughes is Hughes & will have more to give.

Comes down to a total team effort. I fully expect fans patience will be tested & understand the apprehension.

Rah Rah Shish Boom Bah over n out
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:08 PM ET
Anyone of the Vegas rfa's would be nice, all 3 would be even better.
- Reubenkincade

Roy or Hague be nice but cap is in the way. Unraveling still priority & looking unlikely.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:09 PM ET

- TurdFergeson

Agree
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:09 PM ET
Yes but better team D should be more reasonable to ask. Expecting better offence being healthier at this time. Should impact the D helping breakouts. Still the D has to show real growth & it’s there to be had. OEL & Bones 1 year later will be what to watch. Hughes is Hughes & will have more to give.

Comes down to a total team effort. I fully expect fans patience will be tested & understand the apprehension.

Rah Rah Shish Boom Bah over n out

- Nighthawk

ya, I’m still hoping we figure out a forward for d swap. I doubt Calgary wants to deal with us but we have a forward for them and they have lots of d
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:10 PM ET
If they hadn’t improved their PK they never would have been anywhere near the bubble last season.
- 1970vintage

The PK was probably the single biggest factor in digging a hole.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 24 @ 7:11 PM ET
Roy or Hague be nice but cap is in the way. Unraveling still priority & looking unlikely.
- Nighthawk


As was suggested, moving Hoglander would then leave Canucks with about 1.5 million in space, should be able to sign any of those 3 for that price.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:12 PM ET
ya, I’m still hoping we figure out a forward for d swap. I doubt Calgary wants to deal with us but we have a forward for them and they have lots of d
- neem55

They’ve RFA’s still to sign so lots is up in the air for them.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:13 PM ET
As was suggested, moving Hoglander would then leave Canucks with about 1.5 million in space, should be able to sign any of those 3 for that price.
- Reubenkincade

That’s a maybe. VGK in a cap hurt but those 2 have real value & won’t be given away like a broken down Patches or Dadonov for pure cap space.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:18 PM ET
The obvious cap culprits are in our way from one more good move. Pearson & Poolman. Pearson is steady but hard to find a taker. Poolman leaves us no choice but to see if healthy he can at least be value & play some tough D. Not optimistic on that front & his offence isn’t there. Dlcky is worth a bounce back look & see by shear no choice with 3yrs left on his deal. I feel he’s motivated & will be better.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:21 PM ET
I’ve scoured the UFA market & find it less than good to find help. Trading is the only option & in this point in the offseason it is far from ideal to expect that.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 24 @ 7:21 PM ET
As was suggested, moving Hoglander would then leave Canucks with about 1.5 million in space, should be able to sign any of those 3 for that price.
- Reubenkincade

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:24 PM ET
Our hope lies in BB getting this team outta the gate with an identity. Furthermore all the kids will be relied on to show more than marginal improvement. A speed game & tenacity with more urgency than we’ve seen is a must. Start much better & play 60mins is not much to ask for & let the results follow.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:25 PM ET
As was suggested, moving Hoglander would then leave Canucks with about 1.5 million in space, should be able to sign any of those 3 for that price.
- Reubenkincade

Or you move someone with solid value like Garland, bigger savings and return
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:28 PM ET

- Marwood

Hog is a buy low situation. He has to come out flying & reinvent himself & impress BB & staff. Idk if any team has an eye on him but he can up his stock if he truly has worked on his D & it shows. Imo that means being a pest & puck hound & stand out like say Motte or Burr did. At least be more consistent.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:29 PM ET
Or you move someone with solid value like Garland, bigger savings and return
- neem55

Thought on that many times. Who do you target? And why? Personally I expect Garland to be a beast in his own way but it has to be game 1 & continue. His skating & zone entry are his bread n butter.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:31 PM ET
As was suggested, moving Hoglander would then leave Canucks with about 1.5 million in space, should be able to sign any of those 3 for that price.
- Reubenkincade

Or you move someone with solid value like Garland, bigger savings and return
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:34 PM ET
Finding a RHD looks to be for another day. In season will be when to seriously hope we get one.

MUKHAMADULLIN is young but depending how NJD fairs could he be got for Garland? Sure he’s not a plug n play yet but proven RHD are even harder to get in season.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:39 PM ET
Another thought is our deeper top 9 could draw interest if they do what we realistically hope for. I like the idea of how our offence & speed could perform & idk if I really want to trade if it does. Comes down to build on it if it does even though a monumental ask or use it to get more assets? Out scoring our warts isn’t a bad way to go.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 7:50 PM ET
Prospect isn’t all doom & gloom…

https://canucksarmy.com/2...r-canucks-prospects-list/

Still hope is only wishful expectations still though Abby should be a fun team. Potential is there but an often used word. 1-2 players coming outta the dust isn’t much to ask for. Mid 6 is iffy bottom 6 possible top 4 D a dream. Abby has a big task to develop them.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 24 @ 7:53 PM ET
Or you move someone with solid value like Garland, bigger savings and return
- neem55


Or, you move all the smurfs and get even better return and savings.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 24 @ 7:57 PM ET
Thanks Carol!
I agree, Flames D looks like the envy of the Pacific.
Flames Canucks 1st round matchup?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 24 @ 8:00 PM ET
Hog is a buy low situation. He has to come out flying & reinvent himself & impress BB & staff. Idk if any team has an eye on him but he can up his stock if he truly has worked on his D & it shows. Imo that means being a pest & puck hound & stand out like say Motte or Burr did. At least be more consistent.
- Nighthawk


What do you mean by this?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 24 @ 8:23 PM ET
What do you mean by this?
- Reubenkincade

Not on the market.
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