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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 26 @ 11:12 AM ET
Just to add, seems liks a lot of recency bias. 19 picks from the 2022 draft on the list. Thats a lot for not just a weak draft but not accounting for 2 years of covid considerations for a lot of the 2019-21 picks.
- TheTrob

Pretty much statistically impossible.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
Just to add, seems liks a lot of recency bias. 19 picks from the 2022 draft on the list. Thats a lot for not just a weak draft but not accounting for 2 years of covid considerations for a lot of the 2019-21 picks.
- TheTrob


My biggest concern is and will be, not signing any of these kids to a contract.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 11:20 AM ET
My biggest concern is and will be, not signing any of these kids to a contract.
- BetweenTheDots


Hawks only have 23 players under contract next year, and 6 the year after. The Max is 50. I wouldn't be concerned whether they have enough slots to sign this years (9), or next years (currently 9 picks) to contracts.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 26 @ 11:49 AM ET
Hawks only have 23 players under contract next year, and 6 the year after. The Max is 50. I wouldn't be concerned whether they have enough slots to sign this years (9), or next years (currently 9 picks) to contracts.
- LAHawk


That isn't really my concern, it's if the draft pick uses to loop hole to not sign with the Blackhawks in the future.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 12:01 PM ET
That isn't really my concern, it's if the draft pick uses to loop hole to not sign with the Blackhawks in the future.
- BetweenTheDots


They have 2 years to sign Korchinski, and since Nazar is going to Michigan, they have until his NCAA eligibility is up. Same with Rinzel. I don't know of many second or later draft picks that have refused to sign contracts that the NHL club has offered them.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 26 @ 12:10 PM ET
They have 2 years to sign Korchinski, and since Nazar is going to Michigan, they have until his NCAA eligibility is up. Same with Rinzel. I don't know of many second or later draft picks that have refused to sign contracts that the NHL club has offered them.
- LAHawk


Not to mention, can you name a better opportunity to earn playing time than the Hawks in the next 3-4 years?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 26 @ 12:17 PM ET
Not to mention, can you name a better opportunity to earn playing time than the Hawks in the next 3-4 years?
- Chunk


I get it, but still don't like it. I know that Richard Kevin Hayes didn't sign with us. Reason why Fox was being traded from team to team.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 26 @ 12:22 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Chi_P...tCC0-HbPb15ZeZylXnoQ&s=01
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 12:45 PM ET
I get it, but still don't like it. I know that Richard Kevin Hayes didn't sign with us. Reason why Fox was being traded from team to team.
- BetweenTheDots


Fox didn't sign with Calgary. When was the last time a front line free agent who was born in the States signed with a Canadian Team ?

Hayes' agent, Robert Murray, confirmed in an interview with ESPN Chicago's Scott Powers that the depth within the Blackhawks organization was one of the factors that the player considered before making his choice.

i don't think the Hawks are going to have depth issues for more than a few years.

Also, teams are now willing to burn a year off of the contract (Reichel) so they can go RFA a year earlier.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Friends, our buddy Dots is not truly comfortable unless he has something to worry about. The fact that his current worry is that the kids just drafted won't sign years down the road strikes me as a damn good sign!
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
Friends, our buddy Dots is not truly comfortable unless he has something to worry about. The fact that his current worry is that the kids just drafted won't sign years down the road strikes me as a damn good sign!
- mohel



Well the BOD already considers them busts, why would we sign them?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
Well the BOD already considers them busts, why would we sign them?
- LAHawk


That's true so i guess it doesn't matter if they sign or not.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
That's true so i guess it doesn't matter if they sign or not.
- BetweenTheDots

We will trade the three 1sts for Debrincat and sign him to an 8 x $11.5 extension.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
That's true so i guess it doesn't matter if they sign or not.
- BetweenTheDots

If they don’t get signed that leaves lots of glorious cap space. KD may be on to something, he can get his cap space by not signing prospects without having to trade them, that my friends is efficiency!
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
Well the BOD already considers them busts, why would we sign them?
- LAHawk


Don't try knocking Dots off the ledge; that is his safe place....
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
Sounds like they are describing Corey Crawford minus the weak glove hand. 😉
- Chunk



Crawford is not elite.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 3:00 PM ET
Don't try knocking Dots off the ledge; that is his safe place....
- mohel


As long as Murphy is still a Hawk his place on the ledge is safe.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
I would of thought by now Brisson would have engineered a Kane trade already. Offers must be really low.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 26 @ 3:09 PM ET
I guess i shouldn't of shared my concern, since I'm the only one who's uncomfortable with the loop hole.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 3:15 PM ET
I guess i shouldn't of shared my concern, since I'm the only one who's uncomfortable with the loop hole.
- BetweenTheDots


If you use up your NCAA eligibility, the player becomes a FA. If you don't get signed after drafted by the CHL after 2 years, you go into a redraft, so Korchinski would just go back into the draft, he does not become a free agent. When was the last time you saw someone from the CHL refuse to sign a ELC? Might have to go back to Lindros, who didn't want to play for the Nordiques at the time.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
If you use up your NCAA eligibility, the player becomes a FA. If you don't get signed after drafted by the CHL after 2 years, you go into a redraft, so Korchinski would just go back into the draft, he does not become a free agent. When was the last time you saw someone from the CHL refuse to sign a ELC? Might have to go back to Lindros, who didn't want to play for the Nordiques at the time.
- LAHawk


Right but there are 2 other picks in the 1st round going to college.


LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 26 @ 3:27 PM ET
Right but there are 2 other picks in the 1st round going to college.
- BetweenTheDots


You might as well be worried first about Comesso, Slaggert, Kaiser, Harding, Rolston. Their NCAA eligibility ends way before Nazar and Rinzel
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 26 @ 3:53 PM ET
Fox didn't sign with Calgary. When was the last time a front line free agent who was born in the States signed with a Canadian Team ?

Hayes' agent, Robert Murray, confirmed in an interview with ESPN Chicago's Scott Powers that the depth within the Blackhawks organization was one of the factors that the player considered before making his choice.

i don't think the Hawks are going to have depth issues for more than a few years.

Also, teams are now willing to burn a year off of the contract (Reichel) so they can go RFA a year earlier.

- LAHawk


He wouldn't play in Carolina either if I remember correctly. It was NY or bust for him.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 26 @ 3:57 PM ET
With apologies to Theo, here are links to another blogger with his opinions on some Hawk prospects.

https://www.bleachernatio...nkings-post-draft-update/

https://www.bleachernatio...n-the-blackhawks-rebuild/

- boilermaker100


Wasn't Tab Banford one of the many Hawk writers who emerged after the first Cup?
And didn't he call Dylan Olsen a future first pair defender after that first Draft Prospects Camp?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 26 @ 4:02 PM ET
You might as well be worried first about Comesso, Slaggert, Kaiser, Harding, Rolston. Their NCAA eligibility ends way before Nazar and Rinzel
- LAHawk


Yup.

Adam Fox knew what he was doing after he was drafted. He wasn't in the least interested in the Flames, and them very quickly Carolina.
Some guys are very calculating in finding the team they do want play for.

No surprise Commesso is not considered a budding star. I said so when they spent the pick. It was a less gamble in the organizations eyes than grabbing a goalie in the first and he failing.
What bothers me when I hear the hockey knowledgable commentators talking about the there is an NHL goalie storage, and they start naming goalies: Andrei Vasilevskiy, Igor Shesterkin, Connor Hellebuyck, and THEN I HEAR the name Jake Oettinger and instead of arguing for or against I only think of how the Blackhawks vacated that spot while the draft was in Chicago, in order to acquire from Dallas, Anaheim's first-round pick in 2017 (29th overall,Henri Jokiharju) and a third-round pick in 2017 (70th overall,Andrei Altybarmakyan) instead of selectingJake Oettinger
But those two guys are not in the organization, right? Just like the head scout that picked them.
NowI could easily attempt to justify the trade as I was told that the player they wanted there was not Oettinger buteiother Pittsburgh defenseman Pierre-Olivier Joseph or Ryan Poehling , but the more disturbing fact is the 'hawk draft list must have thinned when the choice of an overseas player was made after Morgan Geekie & MacKenzie Entwistle came off board right before they went Russian, although both Boston's "rookie" goalie Jeremy Swayman andDrake Batherson were taken in the mid-fourth rd, unless you one of the folks that thinks Jakub Galvas is the answer because "he played both sides."
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