It’s not obvious after saying they are not doing that.
- Nighthawk

They don't want to make trades that hurt the team's playoff chances this season. I don't know why that's so hard to see.... they could make moves and get the ball rolling with their eye on a couple of seasons from now but they seem to be looking at the same old FA goals instead.

If you say so... We wait for Miller at the TDL *if* this team is out of the playoff picture otherwise you can bet he stays.

What most are calling a fair contract for Boeser... but you think is a bad contract... that's tradable.

Garland is tradable...

I'm not for making a bunch of trades but since you pointed out this team's hands are so tied...

They are not going to move players like that to make cap... they will only make trades that pay off now for the playoffs... pay attention to what they are doing and the language they are using. If they were willing to take one step back so they could make 2 steps forward later, they would move forwards but the moves we are seeing is them making tweaks to get in the playoffs this season... not sacrifices for the future.
- boonerbuck

I don’t for a minute think an unsigned Miller stays PO push or not.

If they want to get rid of bad contracts be prepared to attach 1st round pics 🤷‍♂️ Should be obvious no? Hence why they are doing sweet (frank) all
- CanuckDon

Depends on how bad the contract is they want to trade. But yeah I totally agree, they have no wiggle room. They don't really have a wealth of prospects in the pipeline to deal. Only future picks.

They don't want to make trades that hurt the team's playoff chances this season. I don't know why that's so hard to see.... they could make moves and get the ball rolling with their eye on a couple of seasons from now but they seem to be looking at the same old FA goals instead.
- boonerbuck

Only moves are trading either or both of Miller & Garland. Other moves are dumps costing picks & not a move for the future. FA goals I don’t buy in the slightest.

How many bad contracts do you think the Canucks have?
- bloatedmosquito

A lot. Even their ok contracts can’t be traded right now as it’s a (frank)ed up market.

Bad contracts:

OEL
Myers
Boeser
Richardy
Poolman

Ok contracts but likely untradable without retention or an additional asset:

Pearson
Garland (might be able to trade him for a mid round pick but hard to say)

They don't want to make trades that hurt the team's playoff chances this season. I don't know why that's so hard to see.... they could make moves and get the ball rolling with their eye on a couple of seasons from now but they seem to be looking at the same old FA goals instead.
- boonerbuck

This season? Sweetener to get rid of a guy would be draft picks, how is that protecting this year?! Seems like they are being patient, improving the team little by little with an eye for the future. Nice they aren’t giving picks, that’s for sure

I don’t for a minute think an unsigned Miller stays PO push or not.
- Nighthawk

As TDL approaches... get ready for this...

"The return wasn't going to be worth disrupting this team's chemistry after the effort they put in this season. They deserve a chance"


Management has already been heavy on this team "deserving a chance"... like I said, pay attention to what kind of moves they have made and what they are saying. They already gave up a 3rd for a redundant player last TDL... instead of going the other way and giving themselves a better draft.

If you say so... We wait for Miller at the TDL *if* this team is out of the playoff picture otherwise you can bet he stays.

What most are calling a fair contract for Boeser... but you think is a bad contract... that's tradable.

Garland is tradable...

Pearson can be moved I'm sure... not for much but doubt you have to give up a 1st like you think...

I'm not for making a bunch of trades but since you pointed out this team's hands are so tied...

They are not going to move players like that to make cap... they will only make trades that pay off now for the playoffs... pay attention to what they are doing and the language they are using. If they were willing to take one step back so they could make 2 steps forward later, they would move forwards but the moves we are seeing is them making tweaks to get in the playoffs this season... not sacrifices for the future.
- boonerbuck

Well I obviously disagree. Pearson would have been moved for a 7th by now if they could. Garland is the one I can’t get a read on. And ya, I think Boeser is a brutal contract. A better even strength producer just signed for $1MM

As TDL approaches... get ready for this...

"The return wasn't going to be worth disrupting this team's chemistry after the effort they put in this season. They deserve a chance"


Management has already been heavy on this team "deserving a chance"... like I said, pay attention to what kind of moves they have made and what they are saying. They already gave up a 3rd for a redundant player last TDL... instead of going the other way and giving themselves a better draft.
- boonerbuck

Ahhh, that coveted 3rd rounder. He could've been a better Dermott 5 years from now....or not.

1 for sure in Poolman unless he can stay on LTIR. Dlcky gets a mulligan but still. Pearson sorta but he can up his game another notch. OEL is but if he can switch to RD we can have better pairings.
- Nighthawk

At $2.5 m for Poolman does not bother me much. If he stays healthy and eat up uneventful minutes then it's a decent number. I'm thinking these are not great contracts:

Richardinson @2.6m
Pearson @ $3.2m
Garland @ $4.9m
Myers @ $6m
Boeser @ $6.6m
Ekman-Larsson @ $7.2m

But other than OEL, I don't see a need to add draft picks on any potential trade. You just can't expect much back on a few.

As TDL approaches... get ready for this...

"The return wasn't going to be worth disrupting this team's chemistry after the effort they put in this season. They deserve a chance"


Management has already been heavy on this team "deserving a chance"... like I said, pay attention to what kind of moves they have made and what they are saying. They already gave up a 3rd for a redundant player last TDL... instead of going the other way and giving themselves a better draft.
- boonerbuck

So your issue is that new management is similar to old management? I don’t think they are. They are pretty damn conservative but most of their contracts have been decent and they are at least draft pick neutral so far

A lot. Even their ok contracts can’t be traded right now as it’s a (frank)ed up market.

Bad contracts:

OEL
Myers
Boeser
Richardy
Poolman

Ok contracts but likely untradable without retention or an additional asset:

Pearson
Garland (might be able to trade him for a mid round pick but hard to say)
- CanuckDon

Funny, was writing mine when you posted yours. Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I put Boeser in mine because he still not a $6m player. But he may prove me wrong this year.

This season? Sweetener to get rid of a guy would be draft picks, how is that protecting this year?! Seems like they are being patient, improving the team little by little with an eye for the future. Nice they aren’t giving picks, that’s for sure
- neem55

Why does it seem like their moves have an eye on the future? Giving up a 3rd for Dermott and acquiring a bunch of (NHL)middle aged forwards? They are saying it's tough to address the D right now but does that mean they have to go out and stack the forward core instead and getting even tighter against the cap this year and next? Wouldn't "patience" be waiting until you deal with your priorities even if the playoffs would be put at risk before dishing out 4 year contracts on players one good season?

It's about NOW obviously. Eye on the future would have them standing pat on adding forwards and actually moving a couple... the complete opposite.

The idea that there's no way they keep Miller playoffs or not is interesting. How do GM's see the situation if it's so obvious that Miller is gone no if ands or buts at the TDL? Obviously a buyers market for Miller then.

Ahhh, that coveted 3rd rounder. He could've been a better Dermott 5 years from now....or not.
- Load Management

Pay attention. How is adding Dermott for a 3rd show an eye on the future like Neem thinks management is showing?


You sound like the clique word for word when this place fell apart every time Benning made a move like that. Have times ever changed.

Funny, was writing mine when you posted yours. Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I put Boeser in mine because he still not a $6m player. But he may prove me wrong this year.
- bloatedmosquito

I don’t believe Boeser could be traded without a significant add. Better wingers are being traded as cap dumps. Almost the same list lol

Pay attention. How is adding Dermott for a 3rd show an eye on the future like Neem thinks management is showing?


You sound like the clique word for word when this place fell apart every time Benning made a move like that. Have times ever changed.
- boonerbuck

Well they didn’t say they were going to rebuild, they said they wanted to retool and get younger. Dermott younger and cheaper than Hamonic

Why does it seem like their moves have an eye on the future? Giving up a 3rd for Dermott and acquiring a bunch of (NHL)middle aged forwards? They are saying it's tough to address the D right now but does that mean they have to go out and stack the forward core instead and getting even tighter against the cap this year and next? Wouldn't "patience" be waiting until you deal with your priorities even if the playoffs would be put at risk before dishing out 4 year contracts on players one good season?

It's about NOW obviously. Eye on the future would have them standing pat on adding forwards and actually moving a couple... the complete opposite.

The idea that there's no way they keep Miller playoffs or not is interesting. How do GM's see the situation if it's so obvious that Miller is gone no if ands or buts at the TDL? Obviously a buyers market for Miller then.
- boonerbuck

If it was about now they’d package picks and a bad contract.

Well I obviously disagree. Pearson would have been moved for a 7th by now if they could. Garland is the one I can’t get a read on. And ya, I think Boeser is a brutal contract. A better even strength producer just signed for $1MM
- CanuckDon

They could make these moves if they wanted to. They don't see them as terrible contracts.

As far as Boeser goes, you leave me a bit confused about where you stand with this management group. If Boeser was anywhere near as bad as you claim, wouldn't a competent management walked away if they couldn't have moved him instead of committing another contract like this? Instead they lock him up for almost 7mil per season with a LNTC... You talk about the impossibility of making cap space but there's that contract and Miky's contract... BAM 11+ mil right there...

Well they didn’t say they were going to rebuild, they said they wanted to retool and get younger. Dermott younger and cheaper than Hamonic
- CanuckDon

They think that the value of Dermott is higher than a 3rd rounder, by they I mean the pro scouts who he mentioned were high on him

Pay attention. How is adding Dermott for a 3rd show an eye on the future like Neem thinks management is showing?


You sound like the clique word for word when this place fell apart every time Benning made a move like that. Have times ever changed.
- boonerbuck

I remember this place getting angry over the fact that Benning was making the same mistakes in year eight as he made in year one. Generally there was much optimism when GMMG was fired and Benning came in. But year after year of mistakes after mistakes had a toll on fan patience.

But I think you need to give the new regime the same leeway at the start as any new management group deserves. Trust me, most of us will turn real quick if progress can't be seen.

Well they didn’t say they were going to rebuild, they said they wanted to retool and get younger. Dermott younger and cheaper than Hamonic
- CanuckDon

Yet not adding Dermott after dumping Hamonic would have made them even younger, smaller cap hit and a better draft.... Hmmmm.... They didnt want to leave the D in a worse position with the playoffs approaching and said as much... a now move.

As TDL approaches... get ready for this...

"The return wasn't going to be worth disrupting this team's chemistry after the effort they put in this season. They deserve a chance"


Management has already been heavy on this team "deserving a chance"... like I said, pay attention to what kind of moves they have made and what they are saying. They already gave up a 3rd for a redundant player last TDL... instead of going the other way and giving themselves a better draft.
- boonerbuck

Disagree. Miller isn’t walking for free. I’ve my stance & you the old rhetoric.

They could make these moves if they wanted to. They don't see them as terrible contracts.

As far as Boeser goes, you leave me a bit confused about where you stand with this management group. If Boeser was anywhere near as bad as you claim, wouldn't a competent management walked away if they couldn't have moved him instead of committing another contract like this? Instead they lock him up for almost 7mil per season with a LNTC... You talk about the impossibility of making cap space but there's that contract and Miky's contract... BAM 11+ mil right there...



- boonerbuck

And I was furious when they signed Boeser 🤷‍♂️ My opinion hasn’t changed. They clearly didn’t have a good handle on the value of wingers this off season. They could have replaced him for half the price and spent the difference on D. Huge error. With that being said, who the (frank) could have predicted this off season. Confusing as (frank). Miller doesn’t appear to have value coming off 99 points and a sub $6MM cap hit lol

Ahhh, that coveted 3rd rounder. He could've been a better Dermott 5 years from now....or not.
- Load Management

This lol

Ahhh, that coveted 3rd rounder. He could've been a better Dermott 5 years from now....or not.
- Load Management

Exactly.