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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:43 PM ET
Here's a thought, take the power away from the teacher's unions to be able to politicize their classrooms and the curriculum and education in general and give that power back to parents for a change. Maybe focus solely on things like reading, writing and arthematic and actually have consequences for failure and breaking rules and the like instead of waggling fingers and making excuses and giving out participation awards. Maybe if we celebrate actual achievement instead of mediocrity, society might improve a whole lot. Might actually make children less sensitive and able to handle the real world instead of being selfish entitled and easily offended brats that spout ideology and dogma rather than actual rational thought and critical thinking and proper debate.
- DariusKnight



You do realize that the parents are the ones who have made the system what it is today. They rant and rave and sometimes even threaten teachers, who want to fail a student, or discipline a student.
These same parents are the ones that complain because their kid/s didn't get recognized for any award that some of the kids earned, so they create the wonderful participation award.
Some of these same parents, have kids with special needs that insist on their kids being in the same classrooms as the other kids, which in turns slows down the learning of the more advanced kids, as many of those kids need extra attention.
I know this, because my children have experienced this, my nephew has experienced it and I am friends with many teachers and education assistance, who feel that the parents have created the mess that the education system is in.
I agree with them.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
I’m assuming they don’t want to commit a lot of money long term to a 29 year old player. Which is a sound business model #tradeMiller
- LeftCoaster

Yeah I figure that's their move. I think they also have another deal in the works regarding shipping out a D.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
You do realize that the parents are the ones who have made the system what it is today. They rant and rave and sometimes even threaten teachers, who want to fail a student, or discipline a student.
These same parents are the ones that complain because their kid/s didn't get recognized for any award that some of the kids earned, so they create the wonderful participation award.
Some of these same parents, have kids with special needs that insist on their kids being in the same classrooms as the other kids, which in turns slows down the learning of the more advanced kids, as many of those kids need extra attention.
I know this, because my children have experienced this, my nephew has experienced it and I am friends with many teachers and education assistance, who feel that the parents have created the mess that the education system is in.
I agree with them.

- Reubenkincade



So many parents see school as a giant day care.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
Complete bullshit
- TurdFergeson

Sound like he knows a bunch of people who all had the same idea to scam days off work
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:48 PM ET
Klingberg is still floating out there in Free Agency... Yeah he has his defensive lapses but he would add more offense to the back end not to mention the fact that he's a right shot.
- NorthNuck


Let him stay floating out there. Last thing this team needs.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 27 @ 4:50 PM ET
You do realize that the parents are the ones who have made the system what it is today. They rant and rave and sometimes even threaten teachers, who want to fail a student, or discipline a student.
These same parents are the ones that complain because their kid/s didn't get recognized for any award that some of the kids earned, so they create the wonderful participation award.
Some of these same parents, have kids with special needs that insist on their kids being in the same classrooms as the other kids, which in turns slows down the learning of the more advanced kids, as many of those kids need extra attention.
I know this, because my children have experienced this, my nephew has experienced it and I am friends with many teachers and education assistance, who feel that the parents have created the mess that the education system is in.
I agree with them.

- Reubenkincade

Yup, I knew the librarian at a high school in the lower mainland where the school principal or vice principals were not allowed to talk to certain students unless those students had (their parent's) lawyers on hand. Junior high. Herion OD's and rapes.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:50 PM ET
You do realize that the parents are the ones who have made the system what it is today. They rant and rave and sometimes even threaten teachers, who want to fail a student, or discipline a student.
These same parents are the ones that complain because their kid/s didn't get recognized for any award that some of the kids earned, so they create the wonderful participation award.
Some of these same parents, have kids with special needs that insist on their kids being in the same classrooms as the other kids, which in turns slows down the learning of the more advanced kids, as many of those kids need extra attention.
I know this, because my children have experienced this, my nephew has experienced it and I am friends with many teachers and education assistance, who feel that the parents have created the mess that the education system is in.
I agree with them.

- Reubenkincade



Right on! Giving parents MORE influence is definitely not the answer. I get a kick out of those parents who accompany their adult child to job interviews. That just blows my mind.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:51 PM ET
Rutherford: It's appears that it's going to take longer to address the defense than we would have liked and we're going to have to do it through trades.

(Bob McCown pod)

- VanHockeyGuy


Ran out of time.

Missed the boat.

Expecting too much in return.

Starting to be a long list of excuses.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:51 PM ET
Right on! Giving parents MORE influence is definitely not the answer. I get a kick out of those parents who accompany their adult child to job interviews. That just blows my mind.
- bloatedmosquito



I've never even heard of that. Unreal
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:54 PM ET


So many parents see school as a giant day care.

- golfingsince


Yup.
These are the same parents that don't help their kids with the basics, like reading or arithmetic.
Usually they spend very little, if any time on any type of educating of their kids.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 27 @ 4:55 PM ET
You do realize that the parents are the ones who have made the system what it is today. They rant and rave and sometimes even threaten teachers, who want to fail a student, or discipline a student.
These same parents are the ones that complain because their kid/s didn't get recognized for any award that some of the kids earned, so they create the wonderful participation award.
Some of these same parents, have kids with special needs that insist on their kids being in the same classrooms as the other kids, which in turns slows down the learning of the more advanced kids, as many of those kids need extra attention.
I know this, because my children have experienced this, my nephew has experienced it and I am friends with many teachers and education assistance, who feel that the parents have created the mess that the education system is in.
I agree with them.

- Reubenkincade


Yes, and then those teachers turned around and decided to make school into daycare centers and took the ability of parents to teach their own kids their own values and indoctrinated them into their own. The pendulum's swung way too far away from where it should be. And note that it's parents that pay those teacher salaries with their property taxes that have the school tax added to it. Having no say at all is just as bad as having too much say.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 27 @ 4:56 PM ET
Holy fuck........I'm going to get high.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:57 PM ET


I've never even heard of that. Unreal

- golfingsince


It happens regularly.it is usually the parents who allowed their children to grow-up on video games and their children have zero social skills.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:57 PM ET
Yup, I knew the librarian at a high school in the lower mainland where the school principal or vice principals were not allowed to talk to certain students unless those students had (their parent's) lawyers on hand. Junior high. Herion OD's and rapes.
- Marwood


Sad, but true.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 27 @ 5:00 PM ET


I've never even heard of that. Unreal

- golfingsince


Yup, I guess there is a term for them; "helicopter" or "bulldozer" parents.

Forbes had an interesting article on the phenomenon a few years back:

https://www.forbes.com/si...nterview/?sh=6600403f2a31
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
Holy fuck........I'm going to get high.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'm 3 bowls deep. Played 18 holes this morning, did my gardening and am enjoying beer in the shade. 30 in the sun today, i've spent enough time there.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 27 @ 5:06 PM ET
It happens regularly.it is usually the parents who allowed their children to grow-up on video games and their children have zero social skills.
- Reubenkincade


Yes and no. During the pandemic my kids flourished because they already had a large social group on-line playing video games. My youngest has on-line friends from all over the world; USA, Mexico, England, China, Germany, France, etc. He gets exposed to thinking that he would not normally be exposed to in his local social group. Especially those friends from Europe...
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
Yes, and then those teachers turned around and decided to make school into daycare centers and took the ability of parents to teach their own kids their own values and indoctrinated them into their own. The pendulum's swung way too far away from where it should be. And note that it's parents that pay those teacher salaries with their property taxes that have the school tax added to it. Having no say at all is just as bad as having too much say.
- DariusKnight


Are you saying that because we pay taxes, we should be able to dictate what the dollars are spent on.
If that were the case, all provincial tax dollars would be spent in the bigger areas of the province.
Some of those areas provide less tax dollars, per capita than some of the other regions of the province.
I do agree, the system needs to be fixed.
I have been an advocate of having kids be able to focus entirely on their career goals, while in highschool, for example, if a student is going to be a tradesperson, that student should be able to take classes and or practicum while still in school and coming out of said program already with at least the 1st year under their belt.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 27 @ 5:12 PM ET


I've never even heard of that. Unreal

- golfingsince

Job fair at Mount Washington a few years back with the company I was working for. I was wondering why so many folks in their 40's & 50's were in line.
I knew a few of the dept heads on the mountain and those kids never got hired. They would tell their assistants, "you hire that kid and you hire the parents, too". In some interviews the kid never spoke.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
Yup, I guess there is a term for them; "helicopter" or "bulldozer" parents.

Forbes had an interesting article on the phenomenon a few years back:

https://www.forbes.com/si...nterview/?sh=6600403f2a31

- bloatedmosquito

Helicopter parents.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
Yes and no. During the pandemic my kids flourished because they already had a large social group on-line playing video games. My youngest has on-line friends from all over the world; USA, Mexico, England, China, Germany, France, etc. He gets exposed to thinking that he would not normally be exposed to in his local social group. Especially those friends from Europe...
- bloatedmosquito


I was more referring to kids who are on-line continuously, from a very young age and don't participate in any sort of activities, with other kids, other than on-line.
I have had the joy of trying to train some of these kids, in the field and they are almost untrainable.
BTW, I have been training many co-workers for over 30 years and some of these kids are the hardest to train, as they not only have next to zero social skills, but they don't even know some basic tools, like a shovel or hammer.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 27 @ 5:20 PM ET
Sound like he knows a bunch of people who all had the same idea to scam days off work
- NorthNuck

…………..
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 27 @ 5:21 PM ET
Holy fuck........I'm going to get high.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Let’s be honest, you were either way
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 27 @ 5:22 PM ET
I'm 3 bowls deep. Played 18 holes this morning, did my gardening and am enjoying beer in the shade. 30 in the sun today, i've spent enough time there.
- golfingsince

Are house prices dropping out East?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
It happens regularly.it is usually the parents who allowed their children to grow-up on video games and their children have zero social skills.
- Reubenkincade

That's a fairly broad generalization. Video games aren't inherently harmful, it's more that kids who spend all day every day gaming instead of socializing often have neglectful or lazy parents.
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