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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 28 @ 11:35 PM ET
Saw a comment that was funny/sad/true all at the same time. The Canucks traded a 1st for JT Miller. Obviously a home run trade. Braden Schneider was available to draft with that pick. And yet the Canucks apparently couldn't get Schneider in return for Miller at the TDL
- Nucker101

Schneider went 19th, wasn't the Canucks pick #20?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 11:41 PM ET
Schneider went 19th, wasn't the Canucks pick #20?
- Retinalz

you're right, that comment i read was dumb then
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 28 @ 11:41 PM ET
Schneider went 19th, wasn't the Canucks pick #20?
- Retinalz


Do you really think the Canucks would have picked at #20 without Miller in the lineup?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 28 @ 11:42 PM ET


Was never gonna happen...




- LordHumungous


Miller for captain
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 28 @ 11:42 PM ET
you're right, that comment i read was dumb then
- Nucker101


No, it was actually 1 of your more sensible comments.😁
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 28 @ 11:43 PM ET
Do you really think the Canucks would have picked at #20 without Miller in the lineup?
- Reubenkincade

That doesn't matter. The fact is that our pick was #20 and Schneider went 19. If we didn't have Miller who knows where we would have drafted and who.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 28 @ 11:44 PM ET
That doesn't matter. The fact is that our pick was #20 and Schneider went 19. If we didn't have Miller who knows where we would have drafted and who.
- Retinalz


You are right the Canucks would have been picking in top 12.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
You are right the Canucks would have been picking in top 12.
- Reubenkincade

That then says much fir Millers value then & especially now. I also think he’ll age well. Has 3 good years in him & probably declines a bit after but still good enough.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 29 @ 12:19 AM ET
That then says much fir Millers value then & especially now. I also think he’ll age well. Has 3 good years in him & probably declines a bit after but still good enough.
- Nighthawk


I have no doubt in my mind that Miller will be a fairly productive player for the next 5 or so years, I just don't think the team will be ready until then.
I guess if the team gets into the playoffs 1 year and gets to the 2nd round some other year, during that time, people will be happy.
I continue to say, as I have said over and over again, as a Canucks fan, you have to build through the draft. 3 or 4 solid picks, is not building through the draft, it is taking shortcuts.
This is not a new concept, as teams like the Habs of the 70s, the Islanders of the 80s, the Oilers of the 80s, the Devils, Avalanche/Nordiques, the Red Wings, etc., all built from the draft, and were perennial cup contenders/Champions.
Pretty basic concept.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:38 AM ET
I have no doubt in my mind that Miller will be a fairly productive player for the next 5 or so years, I just don't think the team will be ready until then.
I guess if the team gets into the playoffs 1 year and gets to the 2nd round some other year, during that time, people will be happy.
I continue to say, as I have said over and over again, as a Canucks fan, you have to build through the draft. 3 or 4 solid picks, is not building through the draft, it is taking shortcuts.
This is not a new concept, as teams like the Habs of the 70s, the Islanders of the 80s, the Oilers of the 80s, the Devils, Avalanche/Nordiques, the Red Wings, etc., all built from the draft, and were perennial cup contenders/Champions.
Pretty basic concept.

- Reubenkincade

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 29 @ 12:40 AM ET
I have no doubt in my mind that Miller will be a fairly productive player for the next 5 or so years, I just don't think the team will be ready until then.
I guess if the team gets into the playoffs 1 year and gets to the 2nd round some other year, during that time, people will be happy.
I continue to say, as I have said over and over again, as a Canucks fan, you have to build through the draft. 3 or 4 solid picks, is not building through the draft, it is taking shortcuts.
This is not a new concept, as teams like the Habs of the 70s, the Islanders of the 80s, the Oilers of the 80s, the Devils, Avalanche/Nordiques, the Red Wings, etc., all built from the draft, and were perennial cup contenders/Champions.
Pretty basic concept.

- Reubenkincade

It’s too late for that. This team is what it is and they will ride this core. So as a fan I hope they win a few playoff series. Perhaps in 5 or 6 years they will try a new rebuild were they tear it down to the studs
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jul 29 @ 1:00 AM ET
Looking forward to the season for many reasons!
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 29 @ 1:26 AM ET
Looking forward to the season for many reasons!
- Bettmanhatesus

Makes at least two of us.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 29 @ 1:52 AM ET
It’s too late for that. This team is what it is and they will ride this core. So as a fan I hope they win a few playoff series. Perhaps in 5 or 6 years they will try a new rebuild were they tear it down to the studs
- CanuckDon


Yeah, realistically this is the type of team that’s going to be thrilled if they can pull off winning a playoff round or 2 for the next 5-6 years. Similar to the Flames/Leafs teams we’ve seen over the years
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 29 @ 2:49 AM ET
I have no doubt in my mind that Miller will be a fairly productive player for the next 5 or so years, I just don't think the team will be ready until then.
I guess if the team gets into the playoffs 1 year and gets to the 2nd round some other year, during that time, people will be happy.
I continue to say, as I have said over and over again, as a Canucks fan, you have to build through the draft. 3 or 4 solid picks, is not building through the draft, it is taking shortcuts.
This is not a new concept, as teams like the Habs of the 70s, the Islanders of the 80s, the Oilers of the 80s, the Devils, Avalanche/Nordiques, the Red Wings, etc., all built from the draft, and were perennial cup contenders/Champions.
Pretty basic concept.

- Reubenkincade

Seems like they think ep, qh, Bo and Demko are the guys. I for one think they are right, but understand pessimistic views. Young players are a question mark but we do have quite a few that could exceed, the cap and building around them better is the challenge.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 29 @ 2:50 AM ET
Yeah, realistically this is the type of team that’s going to be thrilled if they can pull off winning a playoff round or 2 for the next 5-6 years. Similar to the Flames/Leafs teams we’ve seen over the years
- Nucker101

The potential I see is that unlike the flames and many teams that fizzle, our best players did unreal in the playoffs.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 29 @ 2:56 AM ET
Bear 1/2.2m
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 29 @ 3:03 AM ET
Seems like they think ep, qh, Bo and Demko are the guys. I for one think they are right, but understand pessimistic views. Young players are a question mark but we do have quite a few that could exceed, the cap and building around them better is the challenge.
- neem55

Setting up the roster for success is the mission. Front office is totally remade & diverse for todays NHL. Good core & the support is improving with depth still coming. The D of course is what will drive this team as far as it can go. Major challenge to be done there.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 29 @ 3:03 AM ET
Yeah, realistically this is the type of team that’s going to be thrilled if they can pull off winning a playoff round or 2 for the next 5-6 years. Similar to the Flames/Leafs teams we’ve seen over the years
- Nucker101


I remember several years back, when the Leafs wreaking the conference finals for a couple years in a row and how they were the best team ever.
Kinda like the Islanders of recent seasons, make the semis for a couple seasons and fall off the face of the earth, the following season.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 29 @ 4:10 AM ET
I remember several years back, when the Leafs wreaking the conference finals for a couple years in a row and how they were the best team ever.
Kinda like the Islanders of recent seasons, make the semis for a couple seasons and fall off the face of the earth, the following season.

- Reubenkincade

Overachieved with a coach who got his message through. Best skill a coach can have but the hardest to sustain. Takes a special group of players & leaders to keep it going. Probably the rarest of combos. TB has both imo.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 29 @ 10:51 AM ET
Miller for captain
- Nucker101

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
It’s too late for that. This team is what it is and they will ride this core. So as a fan I hope they win a few playoff series. Perhaps in 5 or 6 years they will try a new rebuild were they tear it down to the studs
- CanuckDon

Good luck with Aqua-feeny here.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
Looking forward to the season for many reasons!
- Bettmanhatesus

Absolutely.

2nd round.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
Yeah, realistically this is the type of team that’s going to be thrilled if they can pull off winning a playoff round or 2 for the next 5-6 years. Similar to the Flames/Leafs teams we’ve seen over the years
- Nucker101

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 29 @ 11:01 AM ET
Yeah, realistically this is the type of team that’s going to be thrilled if they can pull off winning a playoff round or 2 for the next 5-6 years. Similar to the Flames/Leafs teams we’ve seen over the years
- Nucker101


Almost winning the cup.
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