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dal_johnson
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
Kylington & Monahan
for
Crouse and maybe a Pick

Tweak the trade as needed to free up the Monahan Money, then really go after Kadri along with signing Mangiapane.

Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jul 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
Vegas isn’t giving away young cost controlled assets. They’ll give away a guy like Karl or Lehner before they ever have a conversation about guys like Roy and Patrick.
- TurdFergeson

Where the Knights are now, maybe Flames throw a 3 year 3.5mill offer sheet at Roy, compensation is a 2nd round pick. That would really throw a monkey wrench at them.
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

Jul 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
Vegas isn’t giving away young cost controlled assets. They’ll give away a guy like Karl or Lehner before they ever have a conversation about guys like Roy and Patrick.
- TurdFergeson

That's the secret to their success. Trade or sign the new toy and trash the guys that got them into the SCF. Patches, Schmidt, who is next on the hit list? Not as many teams willing to take a cap dump these days. COL isn't able to find a taker for Girard or Compher and those really aren't cap dumps.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
Yeah no way they will part with Stutzle. Maybe for Batherson but the Team Canada stuff may be a deterrent. I would look at giving the Hawks Monahan, Valamaki & a 3rd for Toews & they eat 3.0 mill of the cap.

I would see if Buffalo would do Hanafin for Cozen? But I definitely think we should consider W Karlsson from Vegas for Valamaki & a 4th.

- Kevin R


The 3rd would have to be a conditional that could turn into a second.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jul 29 @ 2:04 PM ET
The 3rd would have to be a conditional that could turn into a second.
- fattybeef

Treliving loves conditional picks for some reason, most of his deals that have picks involved are 95% of the time conditional.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
Kylington & Monahan
for
Crouse and maybe a Pick

Tweak the trade as needed to free up the Monahan Money, then really go after Kadri along with signing Mangiapane.

- dal_johnson

I’m good with Kadri @ 7 but any more than that and I think we’ll be hard pressed to extend Huber and Weegar. Gonna need Monahans $ next year.
dal_johnson
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 29 @ 3:55 PM ET
I’m good with Kadri @ 7 but any more than that and I think we’ll be hard pressed to extend Huber and Weegar. Gonna need Monahans $ next year.
- K-man25


They will never get Kadri at that. Comparable contracts have it at more like 8 to 8.5.

The Huberdeau and Weeger money comes from the Lucic contract and maybe Valimaki if he doesn't figure things out. But right now Mackey, Meloche, and next year maybe Poirier if ready are more useful. But just those two contracts are 6.8 mil.

Even if you split that evenly between Huberdeau and Weeger that brings them to 9.3 mil and 6.85 mil. Those seem like very competitive salaries for them at a rough quick glance.



drogon
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.20.2021

Jul 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
Do you think Kylington alone would be enough? I think Tre would have to add.

What about Stastny? He is old as ballz but he can slide over to wing for the couple games Monahan is healthy.

- DuranDuran



Yes to Stastny, he would be a very good two-way 3C.
drogon
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.20.2021

Jul 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
Well even if Chicago is on his NT but I doubt that would be the case, he would probably waive it to go to a team where he can be a top 6 C option in a contract year. Plus with Johnny gone, who knows. I would rather do that deal than overpay Kadri on a 6-7 year deal.
- Kevin R


Agree on Kadri. With the current cap space situation in the NHL, it's going to be difficult to move a player like Monahan who has an unknown value.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Jul 29 @ 5:31 PM ET
About as thin as KY-Mans sausage...


- LordHumungous



KY and Turd can have a competition.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 29 @ 5:34 PM ET
They will never get Kadri at that. Comparable contracts have it at more like 8 to 8.5.

The Huberdeau and Weeger money comes from the Lucic contract and maybe Valimaki if he doesn't figure things out. But right now Mackey, Meloche, and next year maybe Poirier if ready are more useful. But just those two contracts are 6.8 mil.

Even if you split that evenly between Huberdeau and Weeger that brings them to 9.3 mil and 6.85 mil. Those seem like very competitive salaries for them at a rough quick glance.

- dal_johnson

With CAP space tight for most teams Kadri is staring down the barrel of a 1 year deal like Kilngberg signed.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jul 30 @ 9:31 AM ET
With CAP space tight for most teams Kadri is staring down the barrel of a 1 year deal like Kilngberg signed.
- DEDDIE


I read somewhere that Huberdeau said he would sign for 9 million in Florida. Tre offered JG 10.5. It will be interesting to see where this goes.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
They will never get Kadri at that. Comparable contracts have it at more like 8 to 8.5.

The Huberdeau and Weeger money comes from the Lucic contract and maybe Valimaki if he doesn't figure things out. But right now Mackey, Meloche, and next year maybe Poirier if ready are more useful. But just those two contracts are 6.8 mil.

Even if you split that evenly between Huberdeau and Weeger that brings them to 9.3 mil and 6.85 mil. Those seem like very competitive salaries for them at a rough quick glance.

- dal_johnson


I think you will see Kuznetsov well before Poirier makes your team.
Kuznetsov will be a beast for you guys.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 30 @ 10:13 AM ET
I read somewhere that Huberdeau said he would sign for 9 million in Florida. Tre offered JG 10.5. It will be interesting to see where this goes.
- DuranDuran

For sure lots of options for Tre
drogon
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.20.2021

Jul 30 @ 10:56 AM ET
If we're looking to dump our deadweight (Lucic or Monahan) to open up a spot, Coyotes are probably a good partner (Treliving knows them well) but it's going to cost us a good player or a high draft pick to sweeten the bid.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
If we're looking to dump our deadweight (Lucic or Monahan) to open up a spot, Coyotes are probably a good partner (Treliving knows them well) but it's going to cost us a good player or a high draft pick to sweeten the bid.
- drogon

Flames can’t afford to keep giving up assets to dump salary. Those picks and prospects eventually help balance the cap.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
Flames can’t afford to keep giving up assets to dump salary. Those picks and prospects eventually help balance the cap.
- K-man25

Kylington and Looch to the Ducks for the CAP space then get Mange and Kadri done. I dont think Vali and Looch gets it done but maybe.
Looch is only being pad 1 mill this year now that his bonus has been paid.
Moving Mony is price prohibitive.

Hube Lindy Toff
Mange Kadri Coleman
Pelletier Backs Dube
Ruzicka, Rooney, Mony, Lewis, Duerr
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 31 @ 2:59 AM ET
Kylington and Looch to the Ducks for the CAP space then get Mange and Kadri done. I dont think Vali and Looch gets it done but maybe.
Looch is only being pad 1 mill this year now that his bonus has been paid.
Moving Mony is price prohibitive.

Hube Lindy Toff
Mange Kadri Coleman
Pelletier Backs Dube
Ruzicka, Rooney, Mony, Lewis, Duerr

- DEDDIE


So why would the Ducks even consider this? It takes something more of value for them to consider it. Which prospect/pick of substance are you adding? And what happens to Dube if it's found he was involved in the Team Canada thing? And do you really think Mony can play 4th line? Guy is soft/delicate, putting him in checking role really can't help that can it?
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jul 31 @ 8:28 AM ET
So why would the Ducks even consider this? It takes something more of value for them to consider it. Which prospect/pick of substance are you adding? And what happens to Dube if it's found he was involved in the Team Canada thing? And do you really think Mony can play 4th line? Guy is soft/delicate, putting him in checking role really can't help that can it?
- wreckage


The Ducks would be getting Kylington who took a massive stride forward last year into Calgary's top 4. He was Calgary best skating Dman and probably the best skater on the team. I think Deddie's suggestion is okay but no chance Calgary should have to add to it. If anything the Ducks send a mid round pick back to Calgary.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jul 31 @ 4:56 PM ET
It wouldn't be as hard to find a taker for Lucic as people think...he makes like 1M real money and is done at the end of the year.

Cap hit is irrelevant to many teams and he is still a useful guy to have around
drogon
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.20.2021

Jul 31 @ 5:42 PM ET
Kylington and Looch to the Ducks for the CAP space then get Mange and Kadri done. I dont think Vali and Looch gets it done but maybe.
Looch is only being pad 1 mill this year now that his bonus has been paid.
Moving Mony is price prohibitive.

Hube Lindy Toff
Mange Kadri Coleman
Pelletier Backs Dube
Ruzicka, Rooney, Mony, Lewis, Duerr

- DEDDIE



Treliving will likely make an intra-division trade as a last resort.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 31 @ 8:43 PM ET
KY and Turd can have a competition.
- FlamesFan1230

drogon
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.20.2021

Aug 1 @ 10:16 AM ET
NHL scout Mark Seidel
North American Central Scouting Independent Bureau
@MarkSeidel
·
19h
Just got off the phone with a guy that knows & I think that Nazem Kadri is done to
@NYIslanders
They have to clear out some cap room & then it’ll be announced. I’m FAR from an Insider but I’m very confident that it’s done. Great signing by NYI & Nazem Kadri deserves every penny.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Aug 1 @ 10:16 AM ET
5th pic: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf7gGhlLlBy/

Does that scream "professional athletes" to you? Too much time with dad. "I'll get what he's having"
drogon
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.20.2021

Aug 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
With Kadri joining the Islanders, there's a centre that becomes available maybe Nelson or Pageau, but they're not cheap.
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