If the season goes awry, why does trading either or both mean they're giving up on them?

Lance even said he could see the Sabres signing Zemgus as a free agent even if they trade him at the deadline.

Are we holding on to players that will have value at the trade deadline for vibes again?
- kingcong39

I'm not really inferring any of the opinions you're suggesting, so I'm a bit confused. Is this just a topic of discussion or a question of my opinion?

If the season goes awry, why does trading either or both mean they're giving up on them?

Lance even said he could see the Sabres signing Zemgus as a free agent even if they trade him at the deadline.

Are we holding on to players that will have value at the trade deadline for vibes again?
- kingcong39

Yes

watson gets 6 games, as of now
- homiedclown

They only looked at 5 out of his 20+ civil lawsuit cases against him. Before I left on vacation last week. The number was at 31

The nfl is a joke if Rodger doesn’t lay down the hammer for more games

I like Kyle here, he serves a lot of purpose in different areas on and off the ice. Girgensons is fine, he's not as impactful overall but is better defensively. He's a quality leader here but I wouldn't be bent out of shape if he was traded. It wouldn't be a very hard task to replace him with a veteran in kind, if the Sabres were so inclined.

I'd be personally disappointed if Kyle was moved, as I have a personal connection to him, along with my support of him on the ice and for that room. ZG, not so much. He's fine, we could do better.

I'm not really inferring any of the opinions you're suggesting, so I'm a bit confused. Is this just a topic of discussion or a question of my opinion?
- TheSabresTaco

What does the below mean?

Okposo will be extended. I feel certain about Kyle, knowing his roots in the community and the team, but I'm not too sure they'll give up ZG.

What does the below mean?

Okposo will be extended. I feel certain about Kyle, knowing his roots in the community and the team, but I'm not too sure they'll give up ZG.
- kingcong39

I'll explain further if the post above is not sufficient.

Sorry Boss
- Hank Balling

Lol 😉

If the season goes awry, why does trading either or both mean they're giving up on them?

Lance even said he could see the Sabres signing Zemgus as a free agent even if they trade him at the deadline.

Are we holding on to players that will have value at the trade deadline for vibes again?
- kingcong39

Good post

I like Kyle here, he serves a lot of purpose in different areas on and off the ice. Girgensons is fine, he's not as impactful overall but is better defensively. He's a quality leader here but I wouldn't be bent out of shape if he was traded. It wouldn't be a very hard task to replace him with a veteran in kind, if the Sabres were so inclined.

I'd be personally disappointed if Kyle was moved, as I have a personal connection to him, along with my support of him on the ice and for that room. ZG, not so much. He's fine, we could do better.
- TheSabresTaco

I get the disappointment, but if they're a bottom 10 team leading up to the trade deadline and teams are calling on both Zemgus and Kyle, and both would like to play for a chance at a cup, don't the Sabres have to make that move?

They could still sign them as UFA's after the season, which I would guess would be likely.

What does the below mean?

Okposo will be extended. I feel certain about Kyle, knowing his roots in the community and the team, but I'm not too sure they'll give up ZG.
- kingcong39

Regarding ZG, I think they like him too much to give an emphatic "yes" on trading him. I mean, I'd have traded him long ago, but that's just me. They're high on his leadership and role.

I get the disappointment, but if they're a bottom 10 team leading up to the trade deadline and teams are calling on both Zemgus and Kyle, and both would like to play for a chance at a cup, don't the Sabres have to make that move?

They could still sign them as UFA's after the season, which I would guess would be likely.
- kingcong39

I think the chances of them trading Kyle are 25% of that of them trading ZG. If they both want to be traded, I think they will be. But I know Kyle doesn't want to be. And who's offering a piece we actually want for Kyle.

I think the chances of them trading Kyle are 25% of that of them trading ZG. If they both want to be traded, I think they will be. But I know Kyle doesn't want to be. And who's offering a piece we actually want for Kyle.
- TheSabresTaco

Who would offer let's say a late 1st or pair of 2nd round picks for Okposo at a $3M cap hit and $2M actual salary if he's playing at a 20-20 pace again?

More than one team would be my guess.

I'm guessing Zemgus would be appealing as well at a $1.1M cap hit.

I think the chances of them trading Kyle are 25% of that of them trading ZG. If they both want to be traded, I think they will be. But I know Kyle doesn't want to be. And who's offering a piece we actually want for Kyle.
- TheSabresTaco

Okposo is likely to be captain. They're not trading their captain at the deadline

Who would offer let's say a late 1st or pair of 2nd round picks for Okposo at a $3M cap hit and $2M actual salary if he's playing at a 20-20 pace again?

More than one team would be my guess.

I'm guessing Zemgus would be appealing as well at a $1.1M cap hit.
- kingcong39

I think they'd be willing to trade one, not both. Imagine getting a pair of firsts for them. And then signing Kyle to a 2x2. That would be a slick move.

Okposo is likely to be captain. They're not trading their captain at the deadline
- Hank Balling

yeah.. I'd say so.

yeah.. I'd say so.
- TheSabresTaco

He's the only Buffalo sports figure (to my knowledge) who lives here year round. He's obviously a huge family man and it's a safe bet he has no interest in leaving them to play elsewhere in the playoffs. Okposo will play here as long as he wants and then he'll retire.

I am just waiting for that one person to come in here and say he deserves less games
- homiedclown

It's dumb. That said he was "suspended" all of last year as a result of the investigation. I do wonder if there was a little "time served" element to the ruling.

He's the only Buffalo sports figure (to my knowledge) who lives here year round. He's obviously a huge family man and it's a safe bet he has no interest in leaving them to play elsewhere in the playoffs. Okposo will play here as long as he wants and then he'll retire.
- Hank Balling

Tuch does as well. But you are correct. He's also building a home near his family in Minnesota.

I think Tage may be a UFA after the 23-24 season, not the 24-25 season, which would put him in Sam Reinhart territory contractually after this season.

https://buffalonews.com/s...ed-8bbb-43d20694b870.html


- kingcong39

I agree with you. Lance has a history of missing the boat on CBA items.

I think they'd be willing to trade one, not both. Imagine getting a pair of firsts for them. And then signing Kyle to a 2x2. That would be a slick move.
- TheSabresTaco

Would be amazing, but I can't see either getting a first.

Would be amazing, but I can't see either getting a first.
- Lunaion

I could see ZG getting a first. Especially if he's good at faceoffs.

I agree with you. Lance has a history of missing the boat on CBA items.
- Lunaion

From the same article:

"Do the Sabres put Kulich in Rochester now that Ruotsalainen is gone? There's a development opportunity there, but the clock would start on his entry-level contract"

Just not a guy to trust on this stuff.

Regarding ZG, I think they like him too much to give an emphatic "yes" on trading him. I mean, I'd have traded him long ago, but that's just me. They're high on his leadership and role.
- TheSabresTaco

Why trade girgensons?

We're making a playoff push ourselves.

Exactly who you want on your team come playoff time

I could see ZG getting a first. Especially if he's good at faceoffs.
- TheSabresTaco

Gaustad joke?

I think the chances of them trading Kyle are 25% of that of them trading ZG. If they both want to be traded, I think they will be. But I know Kyle doesn't want to be. And who's offering a piece we actually want for Kyle.
- TheSabresTaco

Trading zemgus 1%
Trading okposo .25%

Something like this?