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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 31 @ 12:51 PM ET
agreed if kasper was a guy. not their guy


then again they did get their guy in the second round, so most likely they had similar grades on savoie and kasper

- homiedclown


Maybe they thought they had in fact moved up to get him until fvck head Murray poop on them.

Like I said...I'm very happy with Savoie...he was a guy I circled the wagon on much earlier on.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
Maybe they thought they had in fact moved up to get him until fvck head Murray poop on them.

Like I said...I'm very happy with Savoie...he was a guy I circled the wagon on much earlier on.

- IonSabres


Analytics guys said no. That’s my guess. Bad idea wasting assets
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
I’m also great with the pick. I’m assuming when preparing for the draft.

You have pick 9. You have a list of 2-3 guys you want with the pick

Possibly savoie and Kasper were both on that small list

- Sabretooth9


Probably true.
I like that it was leaked out...maybe set even more of a fire in Savoie!
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 31 @ 12:58 PM ET
Analytics guys said no. That’s my guess. Bad idea wasting assets
- Sabretooth9


Interesting post, do you think the analytics guys have that much say in who's drafted?

Up to the minute advice for the gm
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 31 @ 1:04 PM ET
Interesting post, do you think the analytics guys have that much say in who's drafted?

Up to the minute advice for the gm

- Boss34


My guess is they prepared for a situation that happened and the analytics guys said no bad idea. Adams said they depended on analytics a lot during the draft.

If you are the Sabres and had countless mock draft simulations (Adams mentioned that)….. trading up to get a player had to have been talked about in some way shape or form.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 31 @ 1:58 PM ET
RIP Bill Russell
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 31 @ 3:05 PM ET
I get we need depth and Hino is a good player for the money. Bjork makes no sense unless it’s a two way deal. This lineup screams keeping Quinn in Rochester one more year. Not sure yet if I like that idea or not. I guess we will see
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:10 PM ET
I think these things are (frank)ing stupid. But it's the offseason, and I'm going to take this opportunity to take a poop on marco rossi.

https://twitter.com/NHLRa...R6qIuaosdbpW4fQjOpeg&s=19
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 31 @ 3:13 PM ET
I get we need depth and Hino is a good player for the money. Bjork makes no sense unless it’s a two way deal. This lineup screams keeping Quinn in Rochester one more year. Not sure yet if I like that idea or not. I guess we will see
- lulags


It’s hilarious to me that people still hate Bjork and rather have Murray fill in if needed. Murray is terrible. Bjork isn’t as bad as people make him out to be. 3rd 4th line guy. He’s fine for what he does
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:14 PM ET
I get we need depth and Hino is a good player for the money. Bjork makes no sense unless it’s a two way deal. This lineup screams keeping Quinn in Rochester one more year. Not sure yet if I like that idea or not. I guess we will see
- lulags


Room for one more forward with bjork included. Just need to have extra forwards that you don't care about benching. Realistically only room for one of the two unless they find someone other than hino to bench. For the first time in a long time, the Sabres actually have 12 useful forwards.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 31 @ 3:14 PM ET
Sounds like if the Murray trade went through, a likely possibility could have been Kasper at 7 for the Sabres, Lekkerimaki at 8 (been mentioned that Y loved him), then Savoie at 9. Adding Kulich at 28 to complete the bonanza.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:15 PM ET
It’s hilarious to me that people still hate Bjork and rather have Murray fill in if needed. Murray is terrible. Bjork isn’t as bad as people make him out to be. 3rd 4th line guy. He’s fine for what he does
- Sabretooth9


Bjork is as bad as people think he is. And Murray is better. Rather, all things equal, he damages the team less
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 31 @ 3:16 PM ET
It’s hilarious to me that people still hate Bjork and rather have Murray fill in if needed. Murray is terrible. Bjork isn’t as bad as people make him out to be. 3rd 4th line guy. He’s fine for what he does
- Sabretooth9

There’s always (at least) one guy fans sh!t on. Batter up, Anders.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sounds like if the Murray trade went through, a likely possibility could have been Kasper at 7 for the Sabres, Lekkerimaki at 8 (been mentioned that Y loved him), then Savoie at 9. Adding Kulich at 28 to complete the bonanza.
- PrinceChill


I wouldn't take kasper over savoie but at this point I would over ostlund. I think highly of ostlund too. But damn that'd be an even hotter draft.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:17 PM ET
There’s always (at least) one guy fans sh!t on. Batter up, Anders.
- PrinceChill


If bjork wasn't here I'd spend all my time on joker. Only difference is that joker is inconsistently good. Bjork never is.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 31 @ 3:22 PM ET
There’s always (at least) one guy fans sh!t on. Batter up, Anders.
- PrinceChill


You want your 14th best F playing hockey somewhere, not sitting in the press box. Bjork/Hayden/whoever isn't worth worrying about.

On the flip side, if Murray is their 14th best F, that's a problem.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:25 PM ET
You want your 14th best F playing hockey somewhere, not sitting in the press box. Bjork/Hayden/whoever isn't worth worrying about.

On the flip side, if Murray is their 14th best F, that's a problem.

- Lunaion


It's too convoluted to be able to say these are our best 14 forwards. It's more like.. these are the 12 best guys to play their respective positions and the other guys are non development part timers.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 31 @ 3:30 PM ET
I wouldn't take kasper over savoie but at this point I would over ostlund. I think highly of ostlund too. But damn that'd be an even hotter draft.
- TheSabresTaco

I agree on your rankings. Sounds like Y and KA had Kasper higher than both of us. Still a strong draft, incredible that it was almost even stronger.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:31 PM ET
I agree on your rankings. Sounds like Y and KA had Kasper higher than both of us. Still a strong draft, incredible that it was almost even stronger.
- PrinceChill


Time will tell but.. I think I like ostlund and Comrie better than Kasper and Murray.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 31 @ 3:36 PM ET
Time will tell but.. I think I like ostlund and Comrie better than Kasper and Murray.
- TheSabresTaco

Ah, good point tying the goalies in there. Comrie could just be better and less injury prone than GMM. And lets not discount the entertainment potential of Leaf fans getting mad at Murray after spending a summer talking themselves into him.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 31 @ 3:40 PM ET
It's too convoluted to be able to say these are our best 14 forwards. It's more like.. these are the 12 best guys to play their respective positions and the other guys are non development part timers.
- TheSabresTaco


and that's why I don't care about Bjork. Buying him out and signing a few depth F's would have been better, but $ are tight.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:47 PM ET
and that's why I don't care about Bjork. Buying him out and signing a few depth F's would have been better, but $ are tight.
- Lunaion


Well, I think the point is to maybe ditch him because he negatively affects almost every facet of the game, and add a second depth forward who... Doesn't. In his limited minutes, Murray was a positive. He didn't provide much, but he didn't give up much either.

It doesn't need to be Murray, but there's a ton of guys out there who actually help, even if modestly.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:51 PM ET
Minute by minute basis, joker was double as bad as bjork. Christ.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 31 @ 4:14 PM ET
Minute by minute basis, joker was double as bad as bjork. Christ.
- TheSabresTaco

Based on role I don’t think you can remotely compare the two.

Joker did terrible against top tier comp.

Bjork can’t handle being the 12th forward
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 4:20 PM ET
and that's why I don't care about Bjork. Buying him out and signing a few depth F's would have been better, .
- Lunaion

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