What on earth are you talking about?

If anything I think he'd be thrilled to have a generational talent go to one of the leagues biggest markets for once.
- BINGO!

He doesn't talk about anything that takes place on earth, only in his head after the tin foil hat he wears starts to cause his head to sweat.

Toews has not been top 6 player the past couple of years. He is probably also the best captain in the history of the organization. I certainly don't blame a guy who has 1-2 years left in an excellent career who isn't so much interested in continuing to play for a losing team. Similar to Duncan Keith is there's an opportunity for Toews to either play closer to home or for a contender, the Hawks should grant that.

Toews has not been top 6 player the past couple of years. He is probably also the best captain in the history of the organization. I certainly don't blame a guy who has 1-2 years left in an excellent career who isn't so much interested in continuing to play for a losing team. Similar to Duncan Keith is there's an opportunity for Toews to either play closer to home or for a contender, the Hawks should grant that.
- MNHawksfan

Toews didn’t play two years ago, but the previous year he had 60 points in 70 games, I would say that those are top six numbers. As a matter of fact, he’s had top six numbers every year in the league, with the exception of last year, and we all know that he wasn’t 100% last year. He’s been on the ice for quite a bit this summer, I predict that he’ll have a decent 22/23 season, whether it’s all with the Blackhawks time will tell.

That's like asking Trump not to lie.

Ain't gonna happen
- BetweenTheDots

Grrr...

here we go again...I come here for hockey...

What does Bettman have to do with Chicago getting or not getting Bedard?
- paulr

Nothing, but the tin foil hat is strong with that one.

The Fact that:

The fact that a contender to pay Toews half his salary, or find yet a third team to gobble up half of the half, you are talking about a large price for Johnny.

I just don't think that is happening unless he is in a top six attacker and a defensive specialist who can play into overtime with stamina.
That means that his weekly summer training has to produce the former Toews, b/c it wasn't until the end of last season that it seemed he was ABLE to not be overly winded, and never what we saw four years ago.

If a team can simply traded a prospect like Owen Tippett and get Claude Giroux on loan, why would they go through process of also paying a Cap eating 3rd team?

This is why Toews must play here and very well to bring any return to a contender until the trade deadline. (and ditto on Kaner is an easier trade for a team if they wait until then to have less to split with the Blackhawks if he chooses to go contend for a 4th Cup.)

So let's say there is a mid-standing team, that likes everything about Toews for their room, want to re-up him, and you have to think part of it is as a person THEIR kids can learn from. Maybe they pay for that privilege, but where that puts Tazer is in a role similar to what he would be asked to fill here.

Logic reigns over these rumors.

The Fact that:

The fact that a contender to pay Toews half his salary, or find yet a third team to gobble up half of the half, you are talking about a large price for Johnny.

I just don't think that is happening unless he is in a top six attacker and a defensive specialist who can play into overtime with stamina.
That means that his weekly summer training has to produce the former Toews, b/c it wasn't until the end of last season that it seemed he was ABLE to not be overly winded, and never what we saw four years ago.

If a team can simply traded a prospect like Owen Tippett and get Claude Giroux on loan, why would they go through process of also paying a Cap eating 3rd team?

This is why Toews must play here and very well to bring any return to a contender until the trade deadline. (and ditto on Kaner is an easier trade for a team if they wait until then to have less to split with the Blackhawks if he chooses to go contend for a 4th Cup.)

So let's say there is a mid-standing team, that likes everything about Toews for their room, want to re-up him, and you have to think part of it is as a person THEIR kids can learn from. Maybe they pay for that privilege, but where that puts Tazer is in a role similar to what he would be asked to fill here.

Logic reigns over these rumors.
- wiz1901

Logic seldom reigns over rumours but it can rain on them.

Nothing, but the tin foil hat is strong with that one.
- kwolf68

Why don't you people open your eyes? Bettman was with the NBA when they fixed the draft lottery to have Ewing go to the Knicks. He rigged the Crosby lottery so Pittsburgh would win that. Are you not living in today's world to see how things are manipulated to push an agenda? It's not tin foil, it's real life.
And, I know not many will understand this, but the one time Chicago won the draft lottery was a year where there was not a consensus #1 in the draft. Bettman hates that it worked out so well for Chicago.

Why don't you people open your eyes? Bettman was with the NBA when they fixed the draft lottery to have Ewing go to the Knicks. He rigged the Crosby lottery so Pittsburgh would win that. Are you not living in today's world to see how things are manipulated to push an agenda? It's not tin foil, it's real life.
And, I know not many will understand this, but the one time Chicago won the draft lottery was a year where there was not a consensus #1 in the draft. Bettman hates that it worked out so well for Chicago.
- powerenforcer

What did Bettman do and what proof can you show that he manipulated the system to ensure Ewing and Crosby ended up where they did? Further you have to prove Bettman had a reason for ensuring these players would end up with their respective teams.

What did Bettman do and what proof can you show that he manipulated the system to ensure Ewing and Crosby ended up where they did? Further you have to prove Bettman had a reason for ensuring these players would end up with their respective teams.
- paulr

He is guilty because of his position, just like McD is with the Beach issue. When you are at the top, you are ultimately responsible. Are you even human?

He is guilty because of his position, just like McD is with the Beach issue. When you are at the top, you are ultimately responsible. Are you even human?
- powerenforcer

There is quite a gulf in terms of actual evidence where on one hand there are a number of reports from the Beach incident in terms of what happened and what didn’t where McDonough sat on what was reported to him for like 10 days, a month? Don’t recall.

You see where simply saying that Bettman’s in charge doesn’t really qualify as “proof” right?

He is guilty because of his position, just like McD is with the Beach issue. When you are at the top, you are ultimately responsible. Are you even human?
- powerenforcer

These things almost always come to light if it involves more than one person. There's no way he's smart enough to do this by himself.

https://twitter.com/rwest...5XMCS0ycUorKLmpFUYtQ&s=01

Holy poop, speaking of things coming to light.

He is guilty because of his position, just like McD is with the Beach issue. When you are at the top, you are ultimately responsible. Are you even human?
- powerenforcer

As far as I know I’m human.

Your analogy is completely off target. The Beach issue was a crime and McD was responsible for what appears to be a coverup. Where Crosby wound up wasn’t a crime and except for you I haven’t heard anyone suggest how the Penguins obtain him was anything but above board. You have to present allot more proof than “Crosby ended up in Pittsburgh therefore Bettman was a conspirator in ensuring Crosby ended up in Pittsburgh “. You have to show some reason Bettman wanted him there. You have to show proof Bettman meddled to ensure Crosby ended up in Pittsburgh. Show me that proof and I’m on board, otherwise you’re adding 2 + 2 and coming up with 46.

Reportedly, Hawks are adding a new assistant, Derek Plante, formerly an assistant at University Minnesota at Duluth. He was with the Hawks from 2015-2020 as a developmental coach. (UMD is where Wyatt Kaiser is presently playing.)

Dots, let's hope Plante and Kaiser got along at UMD so he can sign with the Hawks next year.

https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1553394253098897408?t=415XMCS0ycUorKLmpFUYtQ&s=01

Holy poop, speaking of things coming to light.
- BetweenTheDots

It’s not good.

Attached is a story from the National Post that doesn’t paint a great picture of the Canadian Junior leagues.

https://nationalpost.com/...makes-star-hockey-players

Reportedly, Hawks are adding a new assistant, Derek Plante, formerly an assistant at University Minnesota at Duluth. He was with the Hawks from 2015-2020 as a developmental coach. (UMD is where Wyatt Kaiser is presently playing.)

Dots, let's hope Plante and Kaiser got along at UMD so he can sign with the Hawks next year.
- boilermaker100

If KD was smart he probably ran it buy Kaiser first. Next gen GMing.

Btw golf game is good, thanks for asking, it's so nice now to go out and have a good round. To actually hit that stupid little ball in the direction i want it to go.

If KD was smart he probably ran it buy Kaiser first. Next gen GMing.

Btw golf game is good, thanks for asking, it's so nice now to go out and have a good round. To actually hit that stupid little ball in the direction i want it to go.
- BetweenTheDots

I don’t think you want players deciding who GMs and coaches are otherwise you’d never find one. I doubt 22 players will all be on board with a GM or coach.

I’ve played hockey and baseball at pretty high levels and golf is by far the hardest game I’ve ever played. I could skate at about 20 mph with a defenseman hanging on with all kinds of noise in the arena and could get a pretty accurate shot on net. When I golf I’m standing still, it’s quiet and no one is trying to interfere with me and it’s difficult to get a good shot off most of the time.

WJC tournament schedule is out.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ule-announced/c-334764716

I think the USA and Canadian teams are still having tryouts with the rosters announced next week.

WJC tournament schedule is out.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ule-announced/c-334764716

I think the USA and Canadian teams are still having tryouts with the rosters announced next week.
- boilermaker100

We get to see one of the newest Hawks Bedard or Fantilli.

I don’t think you want players deciding who GMs and coaches are otherwise you’d never find one. I doubt 22 players will all be on board with a GM or coach.

I’ve played hockey and baseball at pretty high levels and golf is by far the hardest game I’ve ever played. I could skate at about 20 mph with a defenseman hanging on with all kinds of noise in the arena and could get a pretty accurate shot on net. When I golf I’m standing still, it’s quiet and no one is trying to interfere with me and it’s difficult to get a good shot off most of the time.
- paulr

I don't think there is anything wrong with a GM talking to a player they drafted and getting a feel for that coach he is going to hire, it can be seen as the gm doing his due diligence plus getting a feel of what the player thinks of him, win win.

Yea i played all kinds of sports and was pretty good at them, never played golf until 20 something, but after a few injuries in my 30s playing those other sports decided to stick to fishing, skiing and try my hand at golfing. It's only taken me about 20 years to get good at golf, hahaha, tough sport

Why don't you people open your eyes? Bettman was with the NBA when they fixed the draft lottery to have Ewing go to the Knicks. He rigged the Crosby lottery so Pittsburgh would win that. Are you not living in today's world to see how things are manipulated to push an agenda? It's not tin foil, it's real life.
And, I know not many will understand this, but the one time Chicago won the draft lottery was a year where there was not a consensus #1 in the draft. Bettman hates that it worked out so well for Chicago.
- powerenforcer

When you're sitting in your basement in your underwear rubbing feces all over yourself do you ever stop and think "Holy sh!t I'm really Fvcking insane"?

Ducks sign Klingberg $7 mil for 1 season. Modified NTC (no trade till Jan 1, 2023 then 10 team ntc).

Good signing they needed to hit the cap floor, and can flip at TDL for more assets.

When you're sitting in your basement in your underwear rubbing feces all over yourself do you ever stop and think "Holy sh!t I'm really Fvcking insane"?
- GPHawksfan

Gotta say, I'm a bit jealous. I've been playing golf 20+ years and still hoping to break 100!
Good thing for me there's Blackhawks hockey to watch...

As far as I know I’m human.

Your analogy is completely off target. The Beach issue was a crime and McD was responsible for what appears to be a coverup. Where Crosby wound up wasn’t a crime and except for you I haven’t heard anyone suggest how the Penguins obtain him was anything but above board. You have to present allot more proof than “Crosby ended up in Pittsburgh therefore Bettman was a conspirator in ensuring Crosby ended up in Pittsburgh “. You have to show some reason Bettman wanted him there. You have to show proof Bettman meddled to ensure Crosby ended up in Pittsburgh. Show me that proof and I’m on board, otherwise you’re adding 2 + 2 and coming up with 46.
- paulr

I have, just because you refuse to even attempt to discuss it doesn't mean you are correct. Study and review history for yourself. I live every day knowing what I am told is not the truth, so why should an NHL draft lottery be any more true and fair?