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Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Aug 2 @ 10:45 PM ET
Aside from hoping to see improvement with the younger guys, that’s about all you can do.
- Hesh_


I agree with you guys! I never want to see them tank and won't root for them to lose. I realize we need to get a top pick next year but still want to watch competitive and entertaining hockey. It's a tough time being a Flyers fan.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:50 PM ET
They could operate on less then 23 man roster if needed be. With everybody healthy they could still be
Cap compliant. They can function cap wise with Ellis back in. I think they are operating like he will be back at some point.

- peesinwind



Let's put it this way. If they think that Ellis is going to play, then the way they're operating is just plain stupid. They've boxed themselves in without room for multiple injuries.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 2 @ 10:56 PM ET
Let's put it this way. If they think that Ellis is going to play, then the way they're operating is just plain stupid. They've boxed themselves in without room for multiple injuries.
- MJL
The way they are operating is just plain stupid. Would you expect anything different? FIRE CHUCK! Thanks so much!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Aug 2 @ 11:05 PM ET
The way they are operating is just plain stupid. Would you expect anything different? FIRE CHUCK! Thanks so much!
- Phillywhiteout


Yes, if Ellis actually ever plays another game for the Flyers, I might quit drinking. Chuckles needs to go but we all know they will promote him like they did with Homer.
Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Aug 2 @ 11:31 PM ET
8/2/2022 - Tuesday

chuck fletcher aka chuckles

dead last

- corduroy


Thank you for the update… Much appreciated Corduroy!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Aug 2 @ 11:37 PM ET
Oh yeah - I forgot - Hexy sux! His boy Hak kept rolling out Vandevelde, Lehtera, Manning etc, despite the notion that Hak was great for the kids. I know the rule as per the boss on here is not to diss Hexy but oh well. For the record, I love Hexy as a player and do agree that he is better than Chuckles, but it's ok to disagree with some of his decisions. If Hak didn't coach Hexy's son, he never would have had a job with the Flyers.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:34 AM ET
Unpopular thought and opinion.

If we’re gonna suck, I’m just gonna look forward to all the Torts press conferences and all of the Nic deslauriers and Zac MacEwen fights. Call me whatever you want but if this is all we’re getting, might as well look forward to it. If we’re gonna suck, might as well be entertaining.

- SuperSchennBros


That's exactly what Dave Scott and the accounting dept are banking on.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 3 @ 7:05 AM ET
Unpopular thought and opinion.

If we’re gonna suck, I’m just gonna look forward to all the Torts press conferences and all of the Nic deslauriers and Zac MacEwen fights. Call me whatever you want but if this is all we’re getting, might as well look forward to it. If we’re gonna suck, might as well be entertaining.

- SuperSchennBros
When the coach is the most exciting thing about your team you are in SERIOUS trouble. The real hockey heads such as myself stopped going to games a decade ago cause we can spot a non competitive team quickly. There was a waiting list for Flyers season tickets for MANY years, but all that is gone. I'm guessing there will be nights this season when it looks like Sixers games from back a few years ago when they sucked. As in empty! It's very hard to achieve that dubious honor cause the Flyers have always been a staple of Philly, but Chuckles along with some help from Hexy has managed to do it. Congrats to them. FIRE CHUCK! Thanks!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 3 @ 7:15 AM ET
Dunno if you’re familiar with Wishbone Ash, but you may enjoy them, as well. And Beck, Bogert, and Appice. Possibly Cactus.

Carmine Appice is a pretty under appreciated drummer, which is a cryin shame.

- Hesh_


vinnie > carmine
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 3 @ 7:39 AM ET
When the coach is the most exciting thing about your team you are in SERIOUS trouble. The real hockey heads such as myself stopped going to games a decade ago cause we can spot a non competitive team quickly. There was a waiting list for Flyers season tickets for MANY years, but all that is gone. I'm guessing there will be nights this season when it looks like Sixers games from back a few years ago when they sucked. As in empty! It's very hard to achieve that dubious honor cause the Flyers have always been a staple of Philly, but Chuckles along with some help from Hexy has managed to do it. Congrats to them. FIRE CHUCK! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

I would not give this organization the salt off a pretzel let alone any money.

Really would love to see the numbers as far as season ticket and what the cancelation rate was after this past season. Those sales reps should go to jail for fraud when trying to sell!!! Feel for them just a little.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Aug 3 @ 7:56 AM ET
Barring any further moves, it's a guarantee that they will be dipping into LTIR. The question is what happens if at any point during the season that Ellis is ready to play? The Flyers aren't saying anything but they're operating as if they know Ellis is done.
- MJL

Agreed, I thought this at the time of the DeAngelo deal, it just doesn't make any sense unless Ellis is in fact done.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 3 @ 8:08 AM ET
Cap strapped with a bottom feeder roster. Way to go, Cuck.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 3 @ 8:13 AM ET
Unpopular thought and opinion.

If we’re gonna suck, I’m just gonna look forward to all the Torts press conferences and all of the Nic deslauriers and Zac MacEwen fights. Call me whatever you want but if this is all we’re getting, might as well look forward to it. If we’re gonna suck, might as well be entertaining.

- SuperSchennBros

Watching those 2 stiffs fight will not be entertaining. It will be like watching Claude Boivin and Dale Kushner fight.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Aug 3 @ 8:16 AM ET
$1M for Zac 'Freak'n' MacEwen

What people forget is the broad street bullies did a lot of bullying, but they also could score! If the Flyers were hell-bent on winning the Deslauriers sweepstakes, why qualify MacEwen at all? This makes no sense to me. $2.75M of cap space this coming season on primarily fighters, I just don't get it.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 3 @ 8:21 AM ET
$1M for Zac 'Freak'n' MacEwen

What people forget is the broad street bullies did a lot of bullying, but they also could score! If the Flyers were hell-bent on winning the Deslauriers sweepstakes, why qualify MacEwen at all? This makes no sense to me. $2.75M of cap space this coming season on primarily fighters, I just don't get it.

- jd250

What don't you get? This organization is poorly run. They still think that way of playing is relevant in 2022.

Its one thing to want that style, then at least get players who can fit it and at least play a little.

Just shows Chuck pays zero attention to his world class analytics dept.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 3 @ 8:21 AM ET
Oh yeah - I forgot - Hexy sux! His boy Hak kept rolling out Vandevelde, Lehtera, Manning etc, despite the notion that Hak was great for the kids. I know the rule as per the boss on here is not to diss Hexy but oh well. For the record, I love Hexy as a player and do agree that he is better than Chuckles, but it's ok to disagree with some of his decisions. If Hak didn't coach Hexy's son, he never would have had a job with the Flyers.
- Don Nachbaur



The Flyers took a very patient approach under Hextall with young players. Young players actually progressed under Hextall compared to now but he sux.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 3 @ 8:23 AM ET
When the coach is the most exciting thing about your team you are in SERIOUS trouble. The real hockey heads such as myself stopped going to games a decade ago cause we can spot a non competitive team quickly. There was a waiting list for Flyers season tickets for MANY years, but all that is gone. I'm guessing there will be nights this season when it looks like Sixers games from back a few years ago when they sucked. As in empty! It's very hard to achieve that dubious honor cause the Flyers have always been a staple of Philly, but Chuckles along with some help from Hexy has managed to do it. Congrats to them. FIRE CHUCK! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout



Do you guys have zoom meetings? Are there dues to pay to join?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 3 @ 8:24 AM ET
Agreed, I thought this at the time of the DeAngelo deal, it just doesn't make any sense unless Ellis is in fact done.
- jd250


It wasn't that long ago when you arguing with me that it was false that Fletcher was going to cap the team out. Even when it was just a case of simple math.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 3 @ 8:25 AM ET
The Flyers took a very patient approach under Hextall with young players. Young players actually progressed under Hextall compared to now but he sux.

- MJL

yes he was a bad GM. defend until the end Cliff.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
$1M for Zac 'Freak'n' MacEwen

What people forget is the broad street bullies did a lot of bullying, but they also could score! If the Flyers were hell-bent on winning the Deslauriers sweepstakes, why qualify MacEwen at all? This makes no sense to me. $2.75M of cap space this coming season on primarily fighters, I just don't get it.

- jd250


MacEwen's cap hit is 925K

You telling people what they forget.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 3 @ 8:30 AM ET
The athletic did a piece on which teams had the worst contracts as a whole. Called it contract efficiency.

You will be surprised to learn that the Flyers finished much higher than most of us would think.

28. Philadelphia Flyers

Last season: 17th

When Chuck Fletcher said he was out on Johnny Gaudreau because it was “too hard” to move money around, it was met with eye rolls. Buddy, that’s your job.

And then you look at the cap sheet, and, well… too hard might’ve been an understatement. Of course, the quote had very “we’re all trying to find the guy who did this” energy, and that’s why it’s no surprise to see the Flyers land here near the bottom. A self-inflicted wound.

Did they need to sign Nicolas Deslauriers to a four-year deal? No. Did they need to sign Rasmus Ristolainen to a five-year deal? No. Boom, there’s a nice $6.9 million right there. And the team is better for it. That’s the problem here. Neither of those two moves the needle and in fact might actively be hurting the team. And yet, they take up almost 10 percent of the cap. For a long time.

Past failed free agents are also here taking up precious cap space with James van Riemsdyk being overpaid by $3 million and Kevin Hayes being overpaid by almost $5 million. At least van Riemsdyk’s deal ends this year…

It’s a whole lot of money for a whole lot of nothing. Even the team’s best deal, Tony DeAngelo’s, is because the model likes his offense a lot more than it should. It’s going to be a very different world for him in Philadelphia compared to Carolina.



https://theathletic.com/3...03/nhl-contract-rankings/
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Aug 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
$1M for Zac 'Freak'n' MacEwen

What people forget is the broad street bullies did a lot of bullying, but they also could score! If the Flyers were hell-bent on winning the Deslauriers sweepstakes, why qualify MacEwen at all? This makes no sense to me. $2.75M of cap space this coming season on primarily fighters, I just don't get it.

- jd250


It’s all about shot blocking. These guys are all-world shot blockers. When they’re not punching guys in the face they’ll be sliding on their stomachs blocking shots. What’s more exciting to watch than some inconsequential goons punching each other in the face and shot blocking?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
The athletic did a piece on which teams had the worst contracts as a whole. Called it contract efficiency.

You will be surprised to learn that the Flyers finished much higher than most of us would think.




https://theathletic.com/3...03/nhl-contract-rankings/

- MBFlyerfan


Hopefully they finish 28th or worst in the standings this year.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
yes he was a bad GM. defend until the end Cliff.
- hello it's me 2050


Yeah, but he isn't wrong.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 3 @ 8:34 AM ET
The athletic did a piece on which teams had the worst contracts as a whole. Called it contract efficiency.

You will be surprised to learn that the Flyers finished much higher than most of us would think.




https://theathletic.com/3...03/nhl-contract-rankings/

- MBFlyerfan

Hayes isn't overpaid by 5 million as that is silly. 40+ point centers don't get paid 2 million.

Rest I agree. Also doesnt mention all the deals Chuck gave out re-signing players. None of which provide any value.
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