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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
It's not easy being an Islander fan and especially in the summer UIF. It's a long waiting game for sure. It's very tough to understand what is going on. Kadri is a nice player but not the #1 need. 1RW is the big need.
- ses111

The reality is they don’t have the assets to get that #1 wing they desperately need. So Kadri is the best player available and all he costs is money. You grab him and then figure out the cluster fack at center. It’s not a bad problem to have. Like some have said maybe a center is part of a package for a winger? Who the fack knows at this point lol
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Aug 4 @ 8:06 PM ET

Are we over thinking this? Is it KADRI or is Lou cooking some monster deal with other big names?



John Tonelli for HOF
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 8:32 PM ET
Are we over thinking this? Is it KADRI or is Lou cooking some monster deal with other big names?



John Tonelli for HOF

- Tee56

Yes
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM ET
The reality is they don’t have the assets to get that #1 wing they desperately need. So Kadri is the best player available and all he costs is money. You grab him and then figure out the cluster fack at center. It’s not a bad problem to have. Like some have said maybe a center is part of a package for a winger? Who the fack knows at this point lol
- Vukota


This is why the JG miss is so tough. It would have only cost money. Hopefully we find out soon .
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 4 @ 9:50 PM ET
This is why the JG miss is so tough. It would have only cost money. Hopefully we find out soon .

- ses111

I agree but unfortunately you can’t force people to sign here. He would have been perfect but oh well
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 4 @ 9:57 PM ET
I agree but unfortunately you can’t force people to sign here. He would have been perfect but oh well
- Vukota


I'm surprised the combo of Lou and Barry did not do better in terms of signing quality FA's. It still been a struggle the Islanders need to get solved sooner rather than later.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 4 @ 11:54 PM ET

- Vukota


"I felt it!"
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 5 @ 9:01 AM ET
I'm surprised the combo of Lou and Barry did not do better in terms of signing quality FA's. It still been a struggle the Islanders need to get solved sooner rather than later.
- ses111

I’m sure there are some players that don’t want to play for Lou and for that matter trotz as well. I’m sure that goes for other GM’s and coaches throughout the league. I’ll tell you one thing. If I were some young offensively gifted player I wouldn’t want to play for trotz or be micromanaged by Lameriello. I’m also sure there are some players that view it exactly the opposite. I wouldn't want some dude telling me I have to shave or cut my hair
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 5 @ 9:18 AM ET
I’m sure there are some players that don’t want to play for Lou and for that matter trotz as well. I’m sure that goes for other GM’s and coaches throughout the league. I’ll tell you one thing. If I were some young offensively gifted player I wouldn’t want to play for trotz or be micromanaged by Lameriello. I’m also sure there are some players that view it exactly the opposite. I wouldn't want some dude telling me I have to shave or cut my hair
- Cptmjl


Islanders seem to do better with the older players for sure. It’s another issue with the young offensive minded players. Ovie did well with Barry but he is old and really wanted the Cup. A lot of young players would worry about their numbers with Barry’s system. I’m sure they want to win but also put up big numbers like players from other teams.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 5 @ 9:40 AM ET
Islanders seem to do better with the older players for sure. It’s another issue with the young offensive minded players. Ovie did well with Barry but he is old and really wanted the Cup. A lot of young players would worry about their numbers with Barry’s system. I’m sure they want to win but also put up big numbers like players from other teams.
- ses111

Not saying that’s why we didn’t sign any young FA’s. BUT if you were given the choice of playing for a team that is so obviously micromanaged or a team that is a bit more care free, with equal competitiveness, for the next eight years who would you choose?

We’ve most likely all made similar decisions throughout our careers. I know I have.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 5 @ 9:45 AM ET
Not saying that’s why we didn’t sign any young FA’s. BUT if you were given the choice of playing for a team that is so obviously micromanaged or a team that is a bit more care free, with equal competitiveness, for the next eight years who would you chose?

We’ve most likely all made similar decisions throughout our careers. I know I have.

- Cptmjl


What you mentioned has to be a factor Cpt. Lou and Barry have a great resume for winning but young offensive players are going to want to put up the big numbers for a nice payday. Winning and only putting up 50 points might not be enough for a lot of young players. They want to have fun as well.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 5 @ 10:12 AM ET
What you mentioned has to be a factor Cpt. Lou and Barry have a great resume for winning but young offensive players are going to want to put up the big numbers for a nice payday. Winning and only putting up 50 points might not be enough for a lot of young players. They want to have fun as well.
- ses111

I’m sure some do. Looking for complete buy in from a player on what seems like every level is a tall ask. I’m not saying other teams aren’t looking for the same, to some degree, but there’s a definite difference between Lou managed teams then others.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
I’m sure some do. Looking for complete buy in from a player on what seems like every level is a tall ask. I’m not saying other teams aren’t looking for the same, to some degree, but there’s a definite difference between Lou managed teams then others.
- Cptmjl


There is a difference Cpt with Lou managed teams and Barry's system. I have to think a young Ovie would have had issues with Barry's system.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 5 @ 11:01 AM ET
There is a difference Cpt with Lou managed teams and Barry's system. I have to think a young Ovie would have had issues with Barry's system.
- ses111

From what was reported it was a tough love relationship in the beginning.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 5 @ 11:23 AM ET
From what was reported it was a tough love relationship in the beginning.
- Cptmjl


Sounds about right. Players have a lot more power today and it's a different world. It's not like the past when the players had very little options.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:08 PM ET
There is a difference Cpt with Lou managed teams and Barry's system. I have to think a young Ovie would have had issues with Barry's system.
- ses111

It was reported that some players from Barry's prior tenure in Nashville and Wash both said the system was mentally numb and not enjoyable to play in. Hard to imagine how anyone could complain coming off a Stanley Cup season, but it could definitely lead to attrition and a reluctance for some cynical players to not join up.
I'm curious as to whether this will actually change under Lambert. That move tells me it was more than just the system
crdemartino
New York Islanders
Location: Severna Park, MD
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
We need paranteau back???
- kasperrko


That sounds great in theory, but would that leave enough cap room for Martinek? You really need to think about those things.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 5 @ 1:17 PM ET
It was reported that some players from Barry's prior tenure in Nashville and Wash both said the system was mentally numb and not enjoyable to play in. Hard to imagine how anyone could complain coming off a Stanley Cup season, but it could definitely lead to attrition and a reluctance for some cynical players to not join up.
I'm curious as to whether this will actually change under Lambert. That move tells me it was more than just the system

- keaner17

Unsure what to expect in regards to Lambert. I think we’re all under the impression it’ll be something along the same style as trotz but who knows?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
That sounds great in theory, but would that leave enough cap room for Martinek? You really need to think about those things.
- crdemartino

Miss that guy.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Aug 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
That sounds great in theory, but would that leave enough cap room for Martinek? You really need to think about those things.
- crdemartino

Geez, they're still paying the guy's orthodontist bills off.
crdemartino
New York Islanders
Location: Severna Park, MD
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 5 @ 1:19 PM ET
We need paranteau back???
- kasperrko


That sounds great in theory, but would that leave enough cap room for Martinek?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Huberdeau’s new contract is like JT’s eluding taxes on bonuses if he claims US citizenship which I’m sure he is.

It’s an 8 year $10.5 Million deal. Here’s the contractual breakdown:

2023-24: $10.5 million total ($3.5 million salary / $7 million signing bonus)
2024-25: $10.5 million total ($3.5 million salary / $7 million signing bonus)
2025-26: $10.5 million total ($3.5 million salary / $7 million signing bonus)
2026-27: $10.5 million total ($1 million salary / $9.5 million signing bonus)
2027-28: $10.5 million total ($1 million salary / $9.5 million signing bonus)
2028-29: $10.5 million total ($3.5 million salary / $7 million signing bonus)
2029-30: $10.5 million total ($1 million salary / $9.5 million signing bonus)
2030-31: $10.5 million total ($5.5 million salary / $5 million signing bonus)

That’s $61.5 million in signing bonuses

Taxes don’t matter much.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
Unsure what to expect in regards to Lambert. I think we’re all under the impression it’ll be something along the same style as trotz but who knows?
- Cptmjl

My guess is he still incorporates a portion of Barry's system but allows for a little more offensive freedom and creativity
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Aug 5 @ 1:41 PM ET
Miss that guy.
- Cptmjl





Guy made the league min for many years yet averaged 20 min a night. Typical isles player...

SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
Are the Isles going to sign anyone?
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