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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 6:48 PM ET
So you didn't get my reply and decided to reply referring to the MAD policy. Do I have to actually explain it? Might be easier for me to continue trying to explain the salary cap to you.
- MJL


Your reply "when they return fire" presumes there will be an initial fire to return. That was your first error.

Then there was the second one, implying missiles launched from Ukraine would involve a "return of fire" retaliation aimed outside of Ukraine because the missiles were supplied by parties outside of Ukraine. In the history of conflicts in the nuclear age, this has never happened.

Yes, I suggest you stick to catching my errors about the salary cap.

Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 4 @ 6:50 PM ET
Mult credible publications award him national player of the year so…
- Joe Nardone


How many of those have watched him play a game? There is a reason Bump was projected to go in the 3rd but went in the 5th. Bill mentioned 2 games where Bump exploded. But he didn’t mention that Prior Lake(his team) doesn’t play a rigorous schedule. They played 25 regular season games and only 2 were against state tourney teams. Bump was a disaster in the semifinal game as his team got blown out. He was on the ice for 3 goals against and in the box when another was scored. There are at least 3 high school players returning as seniors next year in Minnesota better than Bump. Two were drafted and the other will be drafted. I hope Bump does well. But best high school player in the nation is laughable.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 4 @ 6:51 PM ET
Your reply "when they return fire" presumes there will be an initial fire to return. That was your first error.

Then there was the second one, implying missiles launched from Ukraine would involve a "return of fire" retaliation aimed outside of Ukraine because the missiles were supplied by parties outside of Ukraine. In the history of conflicts in the nuclear age, this has never happened.

Yes, I suggest you stick to catching my errors about the salary cap.


- PT21


No it wasn't an error PT21. You just didn't comprehend it. It went to the very reason why the US won't supply such weapons to the Ukraine.

How many nuclear conflicts involving Putin's Russia and the US have there actually been?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 7:48 PM ET
No it wasn't an error PT21. You just didn't comprehend it. It went to the very reason why the US won't supply such weapons to the Ukraine.

How many nuclear conflicts involving Putin's Russia and the US have there actually been?

- MJL


😀😀😀

And that reason would be....?

Now will occur the Dance of the 1000 evasions to that simple question. 🤗
Telek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.02.2018

Aug 4 @ 7:56 PM ET
Because mental illness is being normalized instead of treated.
- MBFlyerfan

iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Aug 4 @ 8:01 PM ET
How many of those have watched him play a game? There is a reason Bump was projected to go in the 3rd but went in the 5th. Bill mentioned 2 games where Bump exploded. But he didn’t mention that Prior Lake(his team) doesn’t play a rigorous schedule. They played 25 regular season games and only 2 were against state tourney teams. Bump was a disaster in the semifinal game as his team got blown out. He was on the ice for 3 goals against and in the box when another was scored. There are at least 3 high school players returning as seniors next year in Minnesota better than Bump. Two were drafted and the other will be drafted. I hope Bump does well. But best high school player in the nation is laughable.
- Minnyhock

That does not sound so good. I wonder what our FO saw in him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
😀😀😀

And that reason would be....?

Now will occur the Dance of the 1000 evasions to that simple question. 🤗

- PT21



You already referred to it. There is no evasion going on. Just a lack of comprehension of what was said on your part.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 4 @ 8:33 PM ET
That does not sound so good. I wonder what our FO saw in him.
- iamscore2day


IMO a good move by the FO. A really good pick for the 5th round. He’s not a 200 foot player but he has a good release and shows strong scoring potential. A good gamble in that round.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 8:45 PM ET
I think there's not a GM out there that has not had at least a couple "Kyle Calder" trade fiascos. Comes with the territory.
- Letterkenney

Kyle Calder might be in my top five Flyers I really didn’t like. It’s been awhile since I’ve thought of this list but Kyle Calder and Randy Jones always come to mind. It might be safe to say Andrew MacDonald has since made the list. Kevin Hayes has to be the number 1 overrated Flyer being sold to me when signed.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM ET
You already referred to it. There is no evasion going on. Just a lack of comprehension of what was said on your part.
- MJL


Ole! Ole!

Twirls red cape;

Now MJL, what was that reason again?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 4 @ 9:57 PM ET
Ole! Ole!

Twirls red cape;

Now MJL, what was that reason again?

- PT21


Such a childish response. My original response was simple to understand.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Aug 4 @ 10:41 PM ET
We're sitting here in this cell,
You know it's like a living hell.
Was what you did really a crime?
The judge says you have to serve time.
It's the law, you're in jail.
It's the law that sets your bail.
Don't bother to try and fight,
It's only a few more nights

- hello it's me 2050


This bizarre glee is exactly why the loser right will eventually evaporate. They/you are not inclusive and are doomed.

Enjoy your little victory tho!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 11:11 PM ET
Such a childish response. My original response was simple to understand.
- MJL


Two down, 998 more to go.

Ole! Ole!

Now MJL, what exactly was the details of tbe initial response that was easy to understand? 😀😀
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Aug 4 @ 11:25 PM ET
This bizarre glee is exactly why the loser right will eventually evaporate. They/you are not inclusive and are doomed.

Enjoy your little victory tho!

- DrMidnite


You have twisted sense of the meaning of the word “inclusive” in this context. Disagreement on what outcome should befall Griner or the amount of culpability she should assume here shouldn’t make any difference to how much “inclusiveness” a person or group has broadly speaking, according to you.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Aug 4 @ 11:41 PM ET
IMO a good move by the FO. A really good pick for the 5th round. He’s not a 200 foot player but he has a good release and shows strong scoring potential. A good gamble in that round.
- Minnyhock


I agree that it's a decent gamble on a 5th round pick. The worrisome part comes around the not a 200 foot player part. You can guarantee Chuck and company believe the development staff will do everything in it's power to shape him into one, continuing to want to jam square pegs into round holes
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 4 @ 11:55 PM ET
I agree that it's a decent gamble on a 5th round pick. The worrisome part comes around the not a 200 foot player part. You can guarantee Chuck and company believe the development staff will do everything in it's power to shape him into one, continuing to want to jam square pegs into round holes
- Flyerfan2868


Or they could adapt and be satisfied with a guy who may score and bring marginal responsibility. Bump is capable of holding his own along the boards. So develop that.

Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Aug 5 @ 12:05 AM ET
Or they could adapt and be satisfied with a guy who may score and bring marginal responsibility. Bump is capable of holding his own along the boards. So develop that.
- Minnyhock


Exactly....not sure why there's the constant need to turn a player into something they're not. We're seeing it now with the Phantoms though. The coach is developing guys to model his game, not coaching guys to develop and grow their individual skills and game....I'd rather have Smith at the helm of the Phantoms than Lappy
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 5 @ 12:34 AM ET
Russia doesn't want any draft picks so not sure what Chuck can do.
- rayc16


Free Comcast broadband? Make Fedotov part of the deal.

Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 5 @ 4:34 AM ET
Kyle Calder might be in my top five Flyers I really didn’t like. It’s been awhile since I’ve thought of this list but Kyle Calder and Randy Jones always come to mind. It might be safe to say Andrew MacDonald has since made the list. Kevin Hayes has to be the number 1 overrated Flyer being sold to me when signed.
- SuperSchennBros

Chris Gratton deserves a mention. Probably Pat Falloon.

And of course, we did employ one of the larger busts of all time in Daigle. He was okay at first for us, but then just took a nosedive. Not that it ever got all that high off the ground to begin with. He was serviceable in the beginning, but never what he was hyped to be, and certainly wasn’t capable defensively.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Aug 5 @ 6:43 AM ET
You have twisted sense of the meaning of the word “inclusive” in this context. Disagreement on what outcome should befall Griner or the amount of culpability she should assume here shouldn’t make any difference to how much “inclusiveness” a person or group has broadly speaking, according to you.
- Sublime55


Telling people what they can do with their bodies who they can marry and how they identify is not inclusive Go ahead and try and argue.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Aug 5 @ 6:44 AM ET
You have twisted sense of the meaning of the word “inclusive” in this context. Disagreement on what outcome should befall Griner or the amount of culpability she should assume here shouldn’t make any difference to how much “inclusiveness” a person or group has broadly speaking, according to you.
- Sublime55


And once again The obsession over making sure she stays locked up abroad is strange to me.

And it isn't this situation specifically but this loser asked how she identifies which goes to show where his mind is really at.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 5 @ 6:54 AM ET
Chris Gratton deserves a mention. Probably Pat Falloon.

And of course, we did employ one of the larger busts of all time in Daigle. He was okay at first for us, but then just took a nosedive. Not that it ever got all that high off the ground to begin with. He was serviceable in the beginning, but never what he was hyped to be, and certainly wasn’t capable defensively.

- Hesh_

I watched when both were here but I was super young. Like, I have a better memory of Gratton then Fallon. Daigle I definitely remember. I think I had a poster or I think I was offered one. What a waste.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Aug 5 @ 7:32 AM ET
I agree that it's a decent gamble on a 5th round pick. The worrisome part comes around the not a 200 foot player part. You can guarantee Chuck and company believe the development staff will do everything in it's power to shape him into one, continuing to want to jam square pegs into round holes
- Flyerfan2868


That was the hextall mantra, Chuck isnt into the 200 ft player as much.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 5 @ 7:47 AM ET
This bizarre glee is exactly why the loser right will eventually evaporate. They/you are not inclusive and are doomed.

Enjoy your little victory tho!

- DrMidnite

You seem rather perturbed. Glad to know I am doomed. What little victory should I enjoy? Can you elaborate please?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 5 @ 7:50 AM ET
And once again The obsession over making sure she stays locked up abroad is strange to me.

And it isn't this situation specifically but this loser asked how she identifies which goes to show where his mind is really at.

- DrMidnite

Come off the edge holmes.
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