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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
The Britney issue is kabuki. The sentence is leverage. Russia will pretzel the US into giving up much more than the terrorist that’s being floated. Other brutal regimes around the world will take note. I expect more of these lopsided Bowe Bergdahl and Britney trades.
- Minnyhock


So when the US goes to war with Russia, and IT WILL happen eventually, the first bomb dropped should be called the "Griner Nuke" or G-Bomb.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
The Britney issue is kabuki. The sentence is leverage. Russia will pretzel the US into giving up much more than the terrorist that’s being floated. Other brutal regimes around the world will take note. I expect more of these lopsided Bowe Bergdahl and Britney trades.
- Minnyhock

No way not with President Biden in charge. He has demanded her release at once. He will take a hard line approach.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
That sentence had nothing to do with Grinier, her crime, or Russian law. It had everything to do with Ukraine. If they had not found her, they would have found someone else.

Anyone who pays even 1% of attention to foreign news would know that. It is amazing it even needs to be explained. This sort of thing happens all the time.

Also, btw, I recall someone posting very emotionally about how the world has become so unforgiving of anyone making a mistake. How nowadays we are so quick to judge a young person's folly and never give that person a second chance when we should.

I think it was the Brendan Leipsic incident. Any guesses about the identity of that person?

- PT21


Is he named Alexander?
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Aug 4 @ 2:50 PM ET
Did she break the law Bill yes or no?

You do not enter countries that hate Americans with illegal items. Countries that will look to stick it to you. It really is that simple.

- hello it's me 2050

I think there is a little grey here and Bill
Has put his finger on it. She did make a mistake and is about to pay an out-sized price for it unless we cut some kind of a deal to swap her. The sad truth is that this is not unique to Russia but is a common phenomenon when a country decides to politicize certain offenses.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 4 @ 2:52 PM ET
Yes, a black lesbian woman. Which is why pro-Putin MAGAts have no sympathy for her being held as a political prisoner.
- Feanor





PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 2:53 PM ET
blah blah blah. break the law suffer the consequences.
- hello it's me 2050


She did not "suffer the consequences" of "breaking the law", knucklehead. Anymore than you would "suffer the consequences" if you were publicly castrated with garden shears for "breaking the law" in patronizing AMPs.

No one is questioning the conviction. They are questioning the sentence.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 2:54 PM ET
Is he named Alexander?
- Glak18


I am not privy to his real name. I do know some of his past aliases, which includes Rinaldo.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 2:55 PM ET
I think there is a little grey here and Bill
Has put his finger on it. She did make a mistake and is about to pay an out-sized price for it unless we cut some kind of a deal to swap her. The sad truth is that this is not unique to Russia but is a common phenomenon when a country decides to politicize certain offenses.

- iamscore2day

You know this before you travel. So why put yourself, then eventually your country in this positon?

This is pure common sense. Unless she is just one stupid phuck.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
She did not "suffer the consequences" of "breaking the law", knucklehead. Anymore than you would "suffer the consequences" if you were publicly castrated with garden shears for "breaking the law" in patronizing AMPs.

No one is questioning the conviction. They are questioning the sentence.

- PT21

dont like the sentence , what a shame. This is what you get when you do stupid things in countries like Russia, China, Iran, and such.

None of it is shocking in an way.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 4 @ 3:05 PM ET
No way not with President Biden in charge. He has demanded her release at once. He will take a hard line approach.
- hello it's me 2050


That’s only bluster. He’s sending his emissary Chuck Fletcher over to negotiate the release.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 3:09 PM ET
dont like the sentence , what a shame. This is what you get when you do stupid things in countries like Russia, China, Iran, and such.

None of it is shocking in an way.

- hello it's me 2050


This is better than "break the law, suffer the consequences" (where you suggest it a question of universal morality) but still not fully accurate. These sort of things happen in these countries when it is politically convenient for them to happen. 1 Year ago, the same crime would have gotten her 15 days.

Having said that, my personal opinion is if that is the game you want to play, you sobs, well so can we. Lets do a couple of raids on Overchkin's house and see if we find some traces of weed. I suspect chances are good we will.

Then send him to Guantanamo and ask for Grinier in return.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Aug 4 @ 3:10 PM ET

I wonder how many more there are.

https://people.com/politi...sia-with-brittney-griner/

black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Aug 4 @ 3:11 PM ET
i can see hello it's me already ruined this comments section...

see ya folks next blog



Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 4 @ 3:11 PM ET
The law she actually broke, even within Russia, is a minor offense. The charges were draconian (smuggling with criminal intent rather than possession of a small quantity of an illegal substance) as was the sentence.

There was a foreign hockey player in the KHL a few years ago that was arrested for possession of a small quantity of marijuana.

He got a 60-day sentence and a (very hefty) fine. Griner got 9 years in prison. The main difference wasn't the offense itself. It was the timing.

- bmeltzer



No one is questioning the conviction. They are questioning the sentence.
- PT21


I personally don't care about Griner, but it's nice to know that if this ever happened to me or somebody I did care about, there's hope that the State Dept would try to bring us home.

We can debate what constitutes a fair trade, and whether Viktor Bout should be freed, and whether Griner should face consequences for breaking the law, but the wingnuts who want to see fellow Americans rot in Russian work camps are just sick.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
This is better than "break the law, suffer the consequences" (where you suggest it a question of universal morality) but still not fully accurate. These sort of things happen in these countries when it is politically convenient for them to happen. 1 Year ago, the same crime would have gotten her 15 days.

Having said that, my personal opinion is if that is the game you want to play, you sobs, well so can we. Lets do a couple of raids on Overchkin's house and see if we find some traces of weed. I suspect chances are good we will.

Then send him to Guantanamo and ask for Grinier in return.

- PT21

break the law suffer the consequences. It is accurate.

Why would you be raiding Ovy's house?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Aug 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
Curious to know how many people in the US are locked up for weed, that no one is complaining about.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
i can see hello it's me already ruined this comments section...

see ya folks next blog

- black_francis

thanks for stopping by, smell ya later
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
I personally don't care about Griner, but it's nice to know that if this ever happened to me or somebody I did care about, there's hope that the State Dept would try to bring us home.

We can debate what constitutes a fair trade, and whether Viktor Bout should be freed, and whether Griner should face consequences for breaking the law, but the wingnuts who want to see fellow Americans rot in Russian work camps are just sick.

- Tomahawk

You think they would be trying to get you home a big lol.

What about those others that have been there for years? They really trying to bring them home? We all know why they are trying to make a deal.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
Curious to know how many people in the US are locked up for weed, that no one is complaining about.
- bradster

Joe Biden probably put a lot of them there......
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 4 @ 3:18 PM ET
i can see hello it's me already ruined this comments section...

see ya folks next blog

- black_francis

I’m with ya
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
You think they would be trying to get you home a big lol.

What about those others that have been there for years? They really trying to bring them home? We all know why they are trying to make a deal.

- hello it's me 2050



hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 3:22 PM ET
I’m with ya
- ClaudeFather

have a good night
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 4 @ 3:23 PM ET

- Tomahawk

god bless america
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Aug 4 @ 3:23 PM ET

- Tomahawk


Poor Hello.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 3:33 PM ET
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- corduroy

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