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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 9 @ 9:53 AM ET
At spending😉
- Quinn's Quest


👍
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 9 @ 9:59 AM ET
I looked at the cap crunch for next year.
UFAs
Bo
Miller
Kuz
Dowling
Schenn
Buroughs
Being up against the ceiling like they are, how are they going to resign the them?
Sure Dowling and Buroughs walk, but that only saves 1.5 mil and takes away depth. The D is so weak that they are playing Schenn more then they are paying him, so how do you replace or resign him?
And let's suppose Kuz plays like we all hope he does and comes in around 20 goals and 45 points. Where does the money come from to pay him? And that is not even getting to to obvious Bo and Miller salary questions.
The following year, Petey and Podz re-upping comes into play as well. At least the Myers deal will be up, but you still have to replace him at a top 4 salary rate with someone else or resign him.
This is not a Hater or Pom Pom issue, just basic economics
Man that Ek deal just sucks on so many levels.

- carsonagenic


Agreed.
Pretty sure this is why several posters figure it is best to move Miller now, not because he isn't a good player.
All of these 1 million dollar overpay are adding up, which will be costing the team from keeping some of their best players.

Your last sentence, do you mean Erik Karlson?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 9 @ 10:01 AM ET
They have Weber for LTIR space.
- manvanfan

2.1m to sign 2.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:02 AM ET
According to capfriendly, the Canucks currently sit in 6th place in spending, ahead of Stanley Cup Champs, Colorado, the Rangers, Kings, Carolina and several other playoff teams.
Must mean the Canucks are good.

- Reubenkincade


I mean, they might be. I still think there is a lot of work to do to get to great, but they’ll probably be good.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 9 @ 10:09 AM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2...world-juniors-exhibition/
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:13 AM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2022/08/09/watch-jonathan-lekkerimaki-snipes-for-team-sweden-in-world-juniors-exhibition/
- Nighthawk


I agree with your comment, on that site, Lekkerimaki can shoot the puck.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:13 AM ET
I mean, they might be. I still think there is a lot of work to do to get to great, but they’ll probably be good.


- 1970vintage


14th-18th good?
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Aug 9 @ 10:50 AM ET
I looked at the cap crunch for next year.
UFAs
Bo
Miller
Kuz
Dowling
Schenn
Buroughs
Being up against the ceiling like they are, how are they going to resign the them?
Sure Dowling and Buroughs walk, but that only saves 1.5 mil and takes away depth. The D is so weak that they are playing Schenn more then they are paying him, so how do you replace or resign him?
And let's suppose Kuz plays like we all hope he does and comes in around 20 goals and 45 points. Where does the money come from to pay him? And that is not even getting to to obvious Bo and Miller salary questions.
The following year, Petey and Podz re-upping comes into play as well. At least the Myers deal will be up, but you still have to replace him at a top 4 salary rate with someone else or resign him.
This is not a Hater or Pom Pom issue, just basic economics
Man that Ek deal just sucks on so many levels.

- carsonagenic


Does this management group trade whoever isn’t signed by the TDL?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Aug 9 @ 10:52 AM ET
Agreed.
Pretty sure this is why several posters figure it is best to move Miller now, not because he isn't a good player.
All of these 1 million dollar overpay are adding up, which will be costing the team from keeping some of their best players.

Your last sentence, do you mean Erik Karlson?

- Reubenkincade

Ekman Larsson
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Aug 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
Does this management group trade whoever isn’t signed by the TDL?
- Quinn's Quest

Hard decisions have to be made for sure.
But I think we all know how this is going to turn out...
Pushing for the playoffs because "if you get in you have a shot"...
"This team deserved and earned the right to ice the best lineup possible"...
Playoff revenue for Aqua...
and
Miller walks for nothing as UFA.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
I looked at the cap crunch for next year.
UFAs
Bo
Miller
Kuz
Dowling
Schenn
Buroughs
Being up against the ceiling like they are, how are they going to resign the them?
Sure Dowling and Buroughs walk, but that only saves 1.5 mil and takes away depth. The D is so weak that they are playing Schenn more then they are paying him, so how do you replace or resign him?
And let's suppose Kuz plays like we all hope he does and comes in around 20 goals and 45 points. Where does the money come from to pay him? And that is not even getting to to obvious Bo and Miller salary questions.
The following year, Petey and Podz re-upping comes into play as well. At least the Myers deal will be up, but you still have to replace him at a top 4 salary rate with someone else or resign him.
This is not a Hater or Pom Pom issue, just basic economics
Man that Ek deal just sucks on so many levels.

- carsonagenic

Miller needs to go so the organization can focus on the younger talent and keep building from within
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 9 @ 11:09 AM ET
Hard decisions have to be made for sure.
But I think we all know how this is going to turn out...
Pushing for the playoffs because "if you get in you have a shot"...
"This team deserved and earned the right to ice the best lineup possible"...
Playoff revenue for Aqua...
and
Miller walks for nothing as UFA.

- carsonagenic


Better than paying him 8 years X big dollars.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 9 @ 11:11 AM ET
Better than paying him 8 years X big dollars.
- VanHockeyGuy

They’ll get something for him, which is better than nothing. Someone always steps up with a package that’s palatable.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 9 @ 11:12 AM ET
14th-18th good?
- Reubenkincade


I think they’ll probably be as good as Nashville/Dallas last season. Will that be enough to make the playoffs?
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Aug 9 @ 11:15 AM ET
Hard decisions have to be made for sure.
But I think we all know how this is going to turn out...
Pushing for the playoffs because "if you get in you have a shot"...
"This team deserved and earned the right to ice the best lineup possible"...
Playoff revenue for Aqua...
and
Miller walks for nothing as UFA.

- carsonagenic


Yeah past regimes said that. If this one is more independent from
Ownership they should make the long term move not the short shot at success.

It’s great to have playoffs but if players don’t sign then the team deserves to ice a lineup that commits to being a Canuck.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Aug 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
Ekman Larsson
- carsonagenic

EK is Erik Karlsson. OEL is Ekman Larsson
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 9 @ 11:59 AM ET
Hard decisions have to be made for sure.
But I think we all know how this is going to turn out...
Pushing for the playoffs because "if you get in you have a shot"...
"This team deserved and earned the right to ice the best lineup possible"...
Playoff revenue for Aqua...
and
Miller walks for nothing as UFA.

- carsonagenic

Which is fine.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
Which is fine.
- LordHumungous



Yup, good player but for how long? There's a reason he's still unsigned.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Aug 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
Which is fine.
- LordHumungous

Sounds like a bowl full of bad asset management.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 9 @ 12:52 PM ET
Which is fine.
- LordHumungous

We Canucks enjoyers have learned to take the abuse without therapy.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
Yup, good player but for how long? There's a reason he's still unsigned.
- VanHockeyGuy

Of course. MNGT wants a full assessment of what we have under a full season of Boudreau. Why folks can't grasp this is weird. Whatever happens with Miller will most likely happen at TDL and that's a big maybe. The dreams of this big Kings Ransom for Miller are gone. Accept it. He'll be here next year. You don't move a 100 point player for 'maybe' assets at this point of the club development. And if he walks we can allocate those funds to other players.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
We Canucks enjoyers have learned to take the abuse without therapy.
- SRam19

52 years and counting lol...
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:28 PM ET
Good Morning

I hope you all have a wonderful Tuesday.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Aug 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
Good Morning

I hope you all have a wonderful Tuesday.

- Codes1087

You too CodesđŸ‘đŸ»
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
First Domino,

James Nichols
@JamesNicholsNYI
· 1h
Via DFO Rundown, @frank_seravalli:

“I think (the #isles) put an offer on the table for Kadri. Other teams have told me they believe it’s in the 7x7 range.”
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