Guys like Kadri aren’t lining up to play for us right now

And there’s frankly not much out there to get excited about anyways
- jdfitz77

Nobody said Kadri and I don't want Kadri

Options for 4C seem to be Girgs, Asplund & Sheahan

Those first 2 names should get a shot at 4C first,
& Sheahan only get a chance as a “last resort” type move
- jdfitz77

I think they like the first two more on the wing. Especially Asplund, can play on any line to compensate for the guys who aren't good defensively without curbing their offensive game.

Sheahan's 5v5 play was good, and is much better on the dot than Girgensons. I think unless he has a really bad camp he's probably the 4C.

Nobody said Kadri and I don't want Kadri
- SABRES 89

I know nobody said him, I did
He’s a center, so it makes sense in light of the convo

Who’s out there that u do want us to sign?
I don’t see much that’s attractive to me at all

I feel the same way to an extent,
but i think we are forgetting what a good prospect Krebs (at least) was at one point
- jdfitz77

Not forgetting that, still hope he keeps developing and growing. Could be the one used in a trade to bring back a needed piece to move this team forward or to the next level.

I think they like the first two more on the wing. Especially Asplund, can play on any line to compensate for the guys who aren't good defensively without curbing their offensive game.

Sheahan's 5v5 play was good, and is much better on the dot than Girgensons. I think unless he has a really bad camp he's probably the 4C.
- Michael Ghofrani

Girgs & Asplund have played more on the wings in the past couple seasons bc we had better faceoff guys playing 4C
Girgs played there at the end of last season & looked fine to me
Not great, but passable

Sheahan would be a better 13th forward than Bjork, but that’s about it imo
I don’t hate him, but there’s no one Sheahan is pushing out of the lineup
And he’s nowhere good enough to have a forward slot over Peterka/Quinn

I think they like the first two more on the wing. Especially Asplund, can play on any line to compensate for the guys who aren't good defensively without curbing their offensive game.

Sheahan's 5v5 play was good, and is much better on the dot than Girgensons. I think unless he has a really bad camp he's probably the 4C.
- Michael Ghofrani

I think the two-way deal signals Roch. Depth signing that they really needed.

Nobody said Kadri and I don't want Kadri
- SABRES 89

Anymore flooding down there 89? You and the Family good.

Girgs & Asplund have played more on the wings in the past couple seasons bc we had better faceoff guys playing 4C
Girgs played there at the end of last season & looked fine to me
Not great, but passable

Sheahan would be a better 13th forward than Bjork, but that’s about it imo
I don’t hate him, but there’s no one Sheahan is pushing out of the lineup
And he’s nowhere good enough to have a forward slot over Peterka/Quinn
- jdfitz77

I agree but at this point, sort of resigned to the idea that they'll send Peterka back to the AHL to start.

Not forgetting that, still hope he keeps developing and growing. Could be the one used in a trade to bring back a needed piece to move this team forward or to the next level.
- Buff36

Yeah, potentially

Idk if u watched the AHL playoffs last year,
but Krebs & Peterka had some nice chemistry
Krebs can certainly fish the puck to our guys who have the ability to snipe

This could be a make or break year with us for him though
Savoie is gonna be nipping on the heals of his roster spot sooner than later

I agree but at this point, sort of resigned to the idea that they'll send Peterka back to the AHL to start.
- Michael Ghofrani

For Sheahan to be 4C,
then neither Peterka or Quinn are in our lineup
*unless someone else is pushed out, and i don’t see who that could/should be

Girgs wears an “A”
He’ll be in the lineup

I think the two-way deal signals Roch. Depth signing that they really needed.
- Lunaion

I think the plan is for him to eventually get beat out by others and then end up in Roch. You could be right though, they brought back almost everyone at F so maybe just first call up.

I agree but at this point, sort of resigned to the idea that they'll send Peterka back to the AHL to start.
- Michael Ghofrani

That surprises me, JJ to me looks more pro ready than Quinn. Quinn got pushed around in the playoffs, he gets taken off the puck way to easy.

For Sheahan to be 4C,
then neither Peterka or Quinn are in our lineup
*unless someone else is pushed out, and i don’t see who that could/should be
- jdfitz77

Hmm yeah maybe. I constantly forget to include Hinostroza as part of the lineup.

Hmm yeah maybe. I constantly forget to include Hinostroza as part of the lineup.
- Michael Ghofrani

Let’s see your lineup with Sheahan at 4C
I don’t see it happening unless Girgs & Asplund both looks horrible

Skinner-Tage-Olofsson
Mitts-Cozens-Tuch
Hinostroza-Krebs-Peterka/Quinn
Asplund-Girgs-Okposo
Sheahan
Bjork

And if Peterka AND Quinn both look good in camp,
then that 3rd line could have both of them on it an Hinostroza as an extra

I think the plan is for him to eventually get beat out by others and then end up in Roch. You could be right though, they brought back almost everyone at F so maybe just first call up.
- Michael Ghofrani

If they really wanted a 4C, I think they would have walked away from Vinny and pursued one, not wait for the bargain bin. Roch C depth had to be addressed.

That surprises me, JJ to me looks more pro ready than Quinn. Quinn got pushed around in the playoffs, he gets taken off the puck way to easy.
- Buff36

I think the issue there is, even if you feel there's stuff to work out, it's not going to happen at the AHL anymore.

When you dominate a league the way Quinn did, it's very difficult to make adjustments to your game because frankly you don't have to. The guy's a full step quicker than everyone on the ice there, and his shot will cause 99% of the goalies problems.

You're less likely to work through bad habits when you can succeed in spite of them. Long story short, it's not much of a challenge anymore.

If they really wanted a 4C, I think they would have walked away from Vinny and pursued one, not wait for the bargain bin. Roch C depth had to be addressed.
- Lunaion

Were there any good ones? Sturm maybe

I think the issue there is, even if you feel there's stuff to work out, it's not going to happen at the AHL anymore.

When you dominate a league the way Quinn did, it's very difficult to make adjustments to your game because frankly you don't have to. The guy's a full step quicker than everyone on the ice there, and his shot will cause 99% of the goalies problems.

You're less likely to work through bad habits when you can succeed in spite of them. Long story short, it's not much of a challenge anymore.
- Michael Ghofrani

Sure I agree with most, but it wasn't bad habits in the playoffs. He just got physically abused.

Sure I agree with most, but it wasn't bad habits in the playoffs. He just got physically abused.
- Buff36

He can probably work on that in the NHL.

Were there any good ones? Sturm maybe
- Michael Ghofrani

Didn't really look. OG Larry would have fit well.

Were there any good ones? Sturm maybe
- Michael Ghofrani

Not that i liked anyways
Wasn’t much available in free agency for good bottom6 centers

I’d have liked to see better than Sheahan brought in too
But guys don’t wanna come here right now
And i still don’t think the “plan” is to play Sheahan unless we have to

Didn't really look. OG Larry would have fit well.
- Lunaion

Larsson was the only one available that I’d have liked back
That just didn’t seem very realistic though with the way his tenure ended here the 1st time

If they really wanted a 4C, I think they would have walked away from Vinny and pursued one, not wait for the bargain bin. Roch C depth had to be addressed.
- Lunaion

Good point/post

He can probably work on that in the NHL.
- Michael Ghofrani

Sure, but if it came down to Quinn or JJ for the last spot, JJ to me is better equipped to handle it right now. Of course Camp could change that.

Didn't really look. OG Larry would have fit well.
- Lunaion

I agree but you're probably right that they didn't want a permanent fixture for 4C. Bit of a logjam as it is. Sheahan gives you depth but also doesn't take ice from anyone.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they made an offer to Larsson and he just wasn't interested in a role that would likely have him spend more time in the press box than the ice.