It is a problem though. In a vacuum it sounds great. In the real world it creates issues. You can’t pay the lowest skills jobs 15-20 dollars an hour, it screws the middle class. Those people who made 20 dollars before (double someone who made 10) don’t get raises to 40 an hour. If they did, the people who made 40 (double someone who made 20), don’t get 80.
What really happens is the people who used to make 20, just quit their jobs and do the low skill work. It’s happening everywhere. Huge shortages in jobs that used to be hard to get because why would people go to college when they can make the same flipping burgers
Not to mention the massive inflation it causes. It’s a global economy. People who couldn’t buy a car for example now can afford a car priced in 2019 cost. Well there are only so many durable goods to go around. Both people don’t buy a car, the car place only has one, they just jack the price up because two people are competing for it now.
Capitalism fails when you introduce artificial wages. Socialism fails because no one wants to work. - Fattony1187
This is a good Post, but we have done alot of this to ourselves with technology. Now a lot of bigger companies have machines or Botts doing jobs a person would have. Might sound weird but technology has helped but also hurt in different ways.
This is a good Post, but we have done alot of this to ourselves with technology. Now a lot of bigger companies have machines or Botts doing jobs a person would have. Might sound weird but technology has helped but also hurt in different ways. - Buff36
Come to think of it, he did act suspiciously like a robot
Dude, U sell fish & scalp concert tix
I’d think you’d be one of the last ppl who cared about the typical idea of what a career is or should be - jdfitz77
what does this half to do with anything?
unless it's a weak ass attempt as a personal attack
This is a good Post, but we have done alot of this to ourselves with technology. Now a lot of bigger companies have machines or Botts doing jobs a person would have. Might sound weird but technology has helped but also hurt in different ways. - Buff36
it's a double edge sword
self check outs are already taking over many stores
in the near future there will be touch screens at all fast food restaurants to take your orders
instead of 30 people on assembly lines, we have 1 or 2 people making sure the machines are working and a few doing quality control
the country needs to do more to keep more jobs in country instead of outsourcing them
so many things we could be making in the states instead of importing, yet it seems the leaders would rather bend the knee to china and other countries
It is a problem though. In a vacuum it sounds great. In the real world it creates issues. You can’t pay the lowest skills jobs 15-20 dollars an hour, it screws the middle class. Those people who made 20 dollars before (double someone who made 10) don’t get raises to 40 an hour. If they did, the people who made 40 (double someone who made 20), don’t get 80.
What really happens is the people who used to make 20, just quit their jobs and do the low skill work. It’s happening everywhere. Huge shortages in jobs that used to be hard to get because why would people go to college when they can make the same flipping burgers
Not to mention the massive inflation it causes. It’s a global economy. People who couldn’t buy a car for example now can afford a car priced in 2019 cost. Well there are only so many durable goods to go around. Both people don’t buy a car, the car place only has one, they just jack the price up because two people are competing for it now.
Capitalism fails when you introduce artificial wages. Socialism fails because no one wants to work. - Fattony1187
Capitalism fails when the dream of climbing the ladder is no longer realistic
There's no going back to the golden age the boomers had. They scooped everything up and abused the free market to make it unwinnable for the generations after them. Its not their fault, they just won the game.
The only way to prevent total collapse is to start giving people free stuff. Which probably ends in total collapse anyways, just prolongs it for a couple generations.
The only way to prevent total collapse is to start giving people free stuff. Which probably ends in total collapse anyways, just prolongs it for a couple generations. - robz228
here is 1200 bucks
now I am going to kill the pipeline, raise taxes, cause gas to double in price and make it where inflation becomes 10 percent, or more
now I am going to kill the pipeline, raise taxes, cause gas to double in price and make it where inflation becomes 10 percent, or more
enjoy that 1200 bucks - homiedclown
I'm not sure your point here. How exactly was the stimulus related to those things? Oil and gas prices were at insane lows for like 6 months after that happened
"Private businesses have also been a powerful engine of wealth for those at the very top. The 1% own 57% of private companies, according to the Federal Reserve. The value of private businesses held by the wealthiest increased by 36%, or $2.2 trillion, last year."
The 1% own the majority of the country while the rest of us argue about relatively inconsequential issues. The wealthiest are always going to complain that people don't want to work terrible jobs for poverty wages rather than pay people more to do the work
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It is a problem though. In a vacuum it sounds great. In the real world it creates issues. You can’t pay the lowest skills jobs 15-20 dollars an hour, it screws the middle class. Those people who made 20 dollars before (double someone who made 10) don’t get raises to 40 an hour. If they did, the people who made 40 (double someone who made 20), don’t get 80.
What really happens is the people who used to make 20, just quit their jobs and do the low skill work. It’s happening everywhere. Huge shortages in jobs that used to be hard to get because why would people go to college when they can make the same flipping burgers
Not to mention the massive inflation it causes. It’s a global economy. People who couldn’t buy a car for example now can afford a car priced in 2019 cost. Well there are only so many durable goods to go around. Both people don’t buy a car, the car place only has one, they just jack the price up because two people are competing for it now.
Capitalism fails when you introduce artificial wages. Socialism fails because no one wants to work. - Fattony1187
Disagree with just about all of this in the context we’re talking about
And again…. It’s a tangent that doesn’t relate to the topic we were even discussing
What fast food workers are getting paid has absolutely no effect on how our economy has been drifting further & further away from manufacturing & production of goods
"Private businesses have also been a powerful engine of wealth for those at the very top. The 1% own 57% of private companies, according to the Federal Reserve. The value of private businesses held by the wealthiest increased by 36%, or $2.2 trillion, last year."
The 1% own the majority of the country while the rest of us argue about relatively inconsequential issues. The wealthiest are always going to complain that people don't want to work terrible jobs for poverty wages rather than pay people more to do the work - Hank Balling
I wonder what had a bigger impact on the future generations of californians, elon musk's hyperloop scam to kill high speed rail projects to try to keep everyone reliant on purchasing cars? or mcdonalds workers making $3 more an hour?
Disagree with just about all of this in the context we’re talking about
And again…. It’s a tangent that doesn’t relate to the topic we were even discussing
What fast food workers are getting paid has absolutely no effect on how our economy has been drifting further & further away from manufacturing & production of goods - jdfitz77