Minor trades aside, Stan was on a 11 trade losing streak going into the Fleury trade

Seth Jones L
Saad for Zadarov L
Anisimov for Smith L
Jokiharju for Nylander L
3 picks for Shaw L
Forsberg for DeHaan L
Kahun for Maata L
Schmaltz for Strome and Perlini L
Hartman for Edjsell, Beaudin and Kurashev L
Panarin for Saad L
Hjalmarsson for Murphy L
Shaw for a pick that turned into DeBrincat W!!!!

Lets keep going
Teuvo to get rid of Bickell L
Danault for Fleishman and Weise L

If you really go into the archives 2013 and before you can find some good trades
- Hawkeynation

All true, but DeBrincat was traded for a 1st round pick (who will likely be a bust) and not much else. KD turned Stan’s sole W and promptly turned it into an L.

I agree his time came due and have said as much but the part about his “fan club” not holding him accountable doesn’t really hold water.

You’re welcome to your opinion even though you’ll likely blast me for mine because I have the audacity to give Stanbo credit for at least two of the three Cups.

As long as you keep complaining about people complaining about people who complain about the Hawks, all will be right in Hawkeytown.
- HawkintheD

What are you talking about? Obviously Blowman did nothing at all except (frank) the Hawks over. There isn’t one positive thing Blowman did for the Hawks, nothing!

How soon we forget. The year is 2020, COVID running rampant. Half the Chicago front office is laid off. No paying bodies will be in the stands in a makeshift NHL schedule. Stan announces the team will get "younger" obviously a cost cutting move from above. He never uses the word rebuild. Fast forward 2021 things closer to normal, Stan goes "all in," likely also from above flexing Blackhawks $ muscle. I highly doubt Stan did anything in a vacuum.

Minor trades aside, Stan was on a 11 trade losing streak going into the Fleury trade

Seth Jones L
Saad for Zadarov L Left Colorado as a free agent, would of done the same thing in Chicago
Anisimov for Smith L Anisimov out of the league about the same time as Smith
Jokiharju for Nylander L
3 picks for Shaw L do any of the picks have any chance of making the NHL
Forsberg for DeHaan L Carolina had him buried in the minors even with all their goaltending problems. Took over in Ottawa by default. Will be sitting on the pine again as they traded for Talbot?
Kahun for Maata L Kahun out of the league after Pitsburgh gave up on him in one year and Edmonton the next.
Schmaltz for Strome and Perlini L Would you have given Schmautz 7 years at $5.85 million. His production is really no better than Strome's was with the Hawks. Better skater for sure but not much else. Perlini was flipped for Regula.
Hartman for Edjsell, Beaudin and Kurashev L Hartman finally has a brekout year 5 years after the Hawks trade him, and Nashville and Philadelphia gave up on him. Maybe lets give Kurashev 3 more years to develop?
Panarin for Saad L
Hjalmarsson for Murphy L Hjarmelsson retired, had one healthy season, not close to the defenseman in his prime.
Shaw for a pick that turned into DeBrincat W!!!!

Lets keep going
Teuvo to get rid of Bickell L
Danault for Fleishman and Weise L

If you really go into the archives 2013 and before you can find some good trades
- Hawkeynation

So yes, on the whole, Stan is batting less than 50%, but to say all the above trades were total losses, I don't agree with.

If you are going to mention Panarin as a loss, how about the fact the Hawks signed him as a FA in the first place?

Isn't it unfair to compare S. Jones with Seabrook unless or until he had a HOF defenseman as his partner? You are right S. Jones is no Seabrook, but Seabrook would not be Seabrook without Keith.
- LAHawk

Keith would not be Keith without Seabrook!

So yes, on the whole, Stan is batting less than 50%, but to say all the above trades were total losses, I don't agree with.

If you are going to mention Panarin as a loss, how about the fact the Hawks signed him as a FA in the first place?
- LAHawk

Half those trades were arguably "ties" which is what a trade is supposed to be. Jokiharju is a 7th on a good team. The Murphy trade was a win not a loss...

Keith would not be Keith without Seabrook!
- powerenforcer

Bingo!

Keith would not be Keith without Seabrook!
- powerenforcer

I’m not sure the Hawks win the second cup without Seabrook.

I’m not sure the Hawks win the second cup without Seabrook.
- paulr

Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, Kane and Toews were all required components to winning multiple Cups. Remove any one of them and the subsequent championships are in doubt, especially 2015.

Question - which was the better defensive pairing: Chelios & Suter or Keith & Seabrook?

Kevin Weekes is reporting that he expects the Islanders to announce at least 4 transactions soon (no definitive timeline provided). Will one of those moves be Kane to Long Island to play with Barzal????

Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, Kane and Toews were all required components to winning multiple Cups. Remove any one of them and the subsequent championships are in doubt, especially 2015.

Question - which was the better defensive pairing: Chelios & Suter or Keith & Seabrook?
- DarthKane

2015 doesnt happen without Hjalmarsson and Oduya. Shut everyone down.

Kevin Weekes is reporting that he expects the Islanders to announce at least 4 transactions soon (no definitive timeline provided). Will one of those moves be Kane to Long Island to play with Barzal????
- DarthKane

Moving out money to sign Kadri?

Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, Kane and Toews were all required components to winning multiple Cups. Remove any one of them and the subsequent championships are in doubt, especially 2015.

Question - which was the better defensive pairing: Chelios & Suter or Keith & Seabrook?
- DarthKane

I agree 100% but I meant more in that display of leadership that righted the ship.

As always it’s hard to compare different eras. Based strictly on results I’d have to go with Keith and Seabrook although like you said there were so many other components Chelios and Suter didn’t have.

I agree 100% but I meant more in that display of leadership that righted the ship.

As always it’s hard to compare different eras. Based strictly on results I’d have to go with Keith and Seabrook although like you said there were so many other components Chelios and Suter didn’t have.
- paulr

Stapleton and White.

Stapleton and White.
- rpeters01

Another great pairing.

Stapleton and White.
- rpeters01

Pilote and Vasko

Stapleton and White.
- rpeters01

Carney & Weinrich vs. Hjalmarsson & Oduya - clear win for Hammer and Oduya

Belfour vs. Crawford - Belfour

Amonte vs. Sharp - Amonte

Shantz vs. Kruger - Shantz all day!

There was red font all over that one Boiler, but appreciate the info on rookie deals nonetheless.
- HawkintheD

I figured that but wasn't sure. Hard to keep up with all the red fonters.

Moving out money to sign Kadri?
- LAHawk

If KD gets involved in that action he needs to make sure the Hawks get Raty included in any deal with the Islanders. Otherwise the Hawks should just walk away.

Kevin Weekes is reporting that he expects the Islanders to announce at least 4 transactions soon (no definitive timeline provided). Will one of those moves be Kane to Long Island to play with Barzal????
- DarthKane

Doubt if there is a Kane trade now. Maybe Kadri Dobson and Romanov sign and Bailey and/or Pageau traded for the needed cap space.

Doubt if there is a Kane trade now. Maybe Nazri, Dobson and Romanov sign and Bailey and/or Pageau traded for the needed cap space.
- boilermaker100

Didn't Weekes have the Hawks talking Kane trade a couple of weeks ago?

Pilote and Vasko
- LAHawk

I didn't know who played with Pilote.

I didn't know who played with Pilote.
- rpeters01

First it was the Moose, then it was the Chairman of the Boards Doug Jarrett.

At least y'all got 3 cups out of it.

At least y'all got 3 cups out of it.
- SRam19

And very grateful for all 3.