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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Aug 10 @ 4:26 PM ET
For Athletic subscribers, Dom Luszczyszyn has his annual fan survey out. Flyers are going to drop significantly for the second year in a row. Let your voice be heard. Wish I could have given a zero for vision but alas, it is a 1-5 scale.
- NC Flyers Fan

Easiest survey ever.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Aug 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
For Athletic subscribers, Dom Luszczyszyn has his annual fan survey out. Flyers are going to drop significantly for the second year in a row. Let your voice be heard. Wish I could have given a zero for vision but alas, it is a 1-5 scale.
- NC Flyers Fan


That's a mouthful.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 10 @ 4:57 PM ET
Easiest survey ever.
- landros 2



1 across the board for me. Only because I couldn't go lower.

I also mentioned Fletcher and the old boys club still living in the 70's.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 5:11 PM ET
Oh isn't there now?

I already posted the operating income for them pre-pandemic and post 2013 lockout. Now look at stadium attendance figures for the same time by %.


This is a business, run by a business. Imbibe that fact and you will at least see that my pov is not indefensible even if you don't agree.

- PT21



You still can't grasp the context and perspective of a fan.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 5:13 PM ET
Yep šŸ‘šŸ»Keep believing that
- Stayin alive




It's not a case of what I believe. It's simply a fact.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Aug 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
Maybe. Comcast has a longer reach to attract events. I am very skeptical that arena gets built in China town vicinity.
- furio16

AsianAmerican town is the proper nomenclature Dude...
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Aug 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
Beautiful goal by future flyer BedHard!!!
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Aug 10 @ 6:50 PM ET
That's a mouthful.
- hockeylover


You think he's Italian?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 10 @ 7:25 PM ET
Ah ok. In that case you would have to increase the amounts because your actions are that of an individual when you are shopping like that (so the contract analogy would not work).

See, the Flyers are not quite that small a part of Comcast earnings as that. Their yearly profits are about 40 billion last 3 odd years. Flyers had about 40m profit pre-pandemic. So Flyers contributed about .1% of Comcast profits.

So, for a guy who makes 50k, say, that would be a $50 note he dropped. Would it make much difference? Probably not. But would he care to avoid dropping it or pick it up? I would think so.

- PT21

Thatā€™s a fair point. And if those numbers check out that does make sense.

Also consider not just net profits but what theyā€™re currently worth? A couple hundred BILLION? Not sure if the exact number.

While yes certainly quarterly bs system used but once youā€™re dealing in the billions sports teams become toys. Think of it this way

Say X team loses 10,15,20,25 million a season over a whole straight decade

Does X billionaire owner whether corp or private care? What do they blow that type money on yearly? Cars? Paintings? Yachts? Etc.

Itā€™s a game to them. Toys. Bragging rights.


Surely they look at turning profit as bragging only now. Itā€™s not the same as past when teams owned and run by people with an actual stack in the game.

Is it better? Worse? Maybe just different.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 10 @ 7:27 PM ET
It's not a case of what I believe. It's simply a fact.
- MJL

Yep. And those that think itā€™s a fact are delusional.
Name the starting 1c would want coots over? Taking into account all things. Age contract production.


Cool 50-60 point 1c this year. Hahahahahhahahaha because heā€™s played as 1c doesnā€™t mean he is one. It means your team sucks


That sir is a fact
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 10 @ 7:41 PM ET
Yep. And those that think itā€™s a fact are delusional.
Name the starting 1c would want coots over? Taking into account all things. Age contract production.


Cool 50-60 point 1c this year. Hahahahahhahahaha because heā€™s played as 1c doesnā€™t mean he is one. It means your team sucks


That sir is a fact

- Stayin alive



Words words words. Go back back to getting your insider information about free agents. Its just as accurate as your opinion on Couturier.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 7:51 PM ET
Yep. And those that think itā€™s a fact are delusional.
Name the starting 1c would want coots over? Taking into account all things. Age contract production.


Cool 50-60 point 1c this year. Hahahahahhahahaha because heā€™s played as 1c doesnā€™t mean he is one. It means your team sucks


That sir is a fact

- Stayin alive




Couturier is a 1C simply because he has produced at a level of a 1C as well as being a dominant defensive center.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 10 @ 8:33 PM ET
Couturier is a 1C simply because he has produced at a level of a 1C as well as being a dominant defensive center.
- MJL

The better question is: coming off back surgery, approaching 30 and with 11 seasons of heavy and hard minutes under his belt, how long will Couturier remain a 1C?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:35 PM ET
The better question is: coming off back surgery, approaching 30 and with 11 seasons of heavy and hard minutes under his belt, how long will Couturier remain a 1C?
- BiggE


Time will tell.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 10 @ 8:56 PM ET
Words words words. Go back back to getting your insider information about free agents. Its just as accurate as your opinion on Couturier.
- MBFlyerfan


Is 76 points
1 selke

Accurate?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 10 @ 8:57 PM ET
Couturier is a 1C simply because he has produced at a level of a 1C as well as being a dominant defensive center.
- MJL

Dominant? When?

Yeah scary
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 10 @ 9:01 PM ET
The better question is: coming off back surgery, approaching 30 and with 11 seasons of heavy and hard minutes under his belt, how long will Couturier remain a 1C?
- BiggE

Havenā€™t you heard?
Heā€™s as good as 5 time record holder Bergy.
As good as 100 point multi Stanley cup kopitar
Heā€™s a great 1c


Gonna be so great to see the flounder and just how bad that contract is for almost next decade. This team blows
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:01 PM ET
Dominant? When?

Yeah scary

- Stayin alive


He's won the Selke trophy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:02 PM ET
Havenā€™t you heard?
Heā€™s as good as 5 time record holder Bergy.
As good as 100 point multi Stanley cup kopitar
Heā€™s a great 1c


Gonna be so great to see the flounder and just how bad that contract is for almost next decade. This team blows

- Stayin alive


Hyperbole.

So clueless. Kopitar has never scored 100 points in a season.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 10 @ 9:05 PM ET
Words words words. Go back back to getting your insider information about free agents. Its just as accurate as your opinion on Couturier.
- MBFlyerfan



LOL, Coots is married, he probably has the inside scoop.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ęœØē³ åøƒäø, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 10 @ 9:38 PM ET
Thatā€™s a fair point. And if those numbers check out that does make sense.

Also consider not just net profits but what theyā€™re currently worth? A couple hundred BILLION? Not sure if the exact number.

While yes certainly quarterly bs system used but once youā€™re dealing in the billions sports teams become toys. Think of it this way

Say X team loses 10,15,20,25 million a season over a whole straight decade

Does X billionaire owner whether corp or private care? What do they blow that type money on yearly? Cars? Paintings? Yachts? Etc.

Itā€™s a game to them. Toys. Bragging rights.


Surely they look at turning profit as bragging only now. Itā€™s not the same as past when teams owned and run by people with an actual stack in the game.

Is it better? Worse? Maybe just different.

- Stayin alive


Two points...
1. Its not the Comcast top brass/large sholders who are worrying or not worrying about Flyers revenue. It's Dave Scott. Its his show, and Flyers are not 0.1% of his interests, they are a potentially a much, much bigger chunk. This is assuming his pay is indeed indexed to Fyers profits as a % or a bonus. If not, my hypothesis is incorrect.

2. When people say guys like say Dan Snyder run their team like a toy, they are typically referring to the sports part of the team. Not the revenue part, which is what I am talking about. Dan Snyder may not care about winning, but he pays enormous attention to corporate suites and packages, which is why they make so much money, and why that franchise is so high in the list of valuable NFL teams.

EDIT: Large shareholders.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Aug 11 @ 7:49 AM ET
Beautiful goal by future flyer BedHard!!!
- THE EVIL WITHIN

We can dream anyway ...
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