Would trading Varly to Vegas help your cap woes?
- SRam19

Yes but, Isles have coveted having a 1A / 1B combo and don't have anything in their pipeline to support that move unless they're getting back a capable, cheap backup which is probably Logan Thompson from Vegas and they'd be foolish to give him away for 1 year of Varly

Yes but, Isles have coveted having a 1A / 1B combo and don't have anything in their pipeline to support that move unless they're getting back a capable, cheap backup which is probably Logan Thompson from Vegas and they'd be foolish to give him away for 1 year of Varly
- brodydog29

I mean Vegas is supposed to be competing for a cup every year.
Giving up Logan Thompson for the ability to make the playoffs seems quite small.

Their team is literally run by people who play Franchise Mode on the NHL.

Would trading Varly to Vegas help your cap woes?
- SRam19

Varly for Brossoit, a 2nd (2024) and a 3rd (Sabre’s 2023) would get me thinking.

I mean Vegas is supposed to be competing for a cup every year.
Giving up Logan Thompson for the ability to make the playoffs seems quite small.

Their team is literally run by people who play Franchise Mode on the NHL.
- SRam19

this is true. I'm sure it would be a hesitant move on Lou's part because you're giving up the established goalie. He has always built his teams from the net out and after watching Carolina, Pittsburgh and some others sink after a goalie injury, he probably doesn't want to move him.
Isles NEED to move a forward or 2 if they are really adding a Kadri or whoever. They're already full up front. Adding another fwd without moving out some fwd(s) is useless.

Varly for Brossoit, a 2nd (2024) and a 3rd (Sabre’s 2023) would get me thinking.
- Wildschwein

Brossoit is hurt and I can't recall if he's going to miss the start of the year or not, but I feel like he is. That'd be a non-starter for me.

Seravalli's podcast brought up the idea (read: not rumor) of a 3-team trade involving the Knights getting Varly, the Isles getting Reimer (+?), and the Sharks getting some assets. Doesn't save the Isles the full $5M though, as Reimer's AAV is $2.25M...so they'd save about half.

Brossoit is hurt and I can't recall if he's going to miss the start of the year or not, but I feel like he is. That'd be a non-starter for me.

Seravalli's podcast brought up the idea (read: not rumor) of a 3-team trade involving the Knights getting Varly, the Isles getting Reimer (+?), and the Sharks getting some assets. Doesn't save the Isles the full $5M though, as Reimer's AAV is $2.25M...so they'd save about half.
- eichiefs9

I don’t hate that idea.

Regarding Brossoit, I thought he was supposed to be good to go by training camp?

Brossoit is hurt and I can't recall if he's going to miss the start of the year or not, but I feel like he is. That'd be a non-starter for me.

Seravalli's podcast brought up the idea (read: not rumor) of a 3-team trade involving the Knights getting Varly, the Isles getting Reimer (+?), and the Sharks getting some assets. Doesn't save the Isles the full $5M though, as Reimer's AAV is $2.25M...so they'd save about half.
- eichiefs9

Would you be confident in Reimer carrying the torch if sOrOkin gets hurt? Also there better be a plus for the Isles. I wouldn’t do Varly for Reimer straight up. Also Vegas can deal directly with SJ for Reimer as well.

I don’t hate that idea.

Regarding Brossoit, I thought he was supposed to be good to go by training camp?
- Wildschwein

Brossolt injury update.


Golden Knights' Laurent Brossoit: Progressing after surgery
Rotowire AUG 15, 2022
Brossoit (undisclosed) is "ahead of schedule" but likely won't be ready for Opening Night, Jason Gregor of OilersNation.com reports. With Robin Lehner (hip) out for the 2022-23 season, Brossoit and Logan Thompson are expected to handle the goaltending duties for Vegas. Brossoit underwent surgery this offseason and, while the progress has been good, it sounds like he could begin the year on injured reserve. The 29-year-old posted a 2.90 GAA and an .895 save percentage through a career-high 24 appearances last season. An extended absence for Brossoit or a hot start by Thompson could shape how the team utilizes the tandem once both are available.

Brossolt injury update.


Golden Knights' Laurent Brossoit: Progressing after surgery
Rotowire AUG 15, 2022
Brossoit (undisclosed) is "ahead of schedule" but likely won't be ready for Opening Night, Jason Gregor of OilersNation.com reports. With Robin Lehner (hip) out for the 2022-23 season, Brossoit and Logan Thompson are expected to handle the goaltending duties for Vegas. Brossoit underwent surgery this offseason and, while the progress has been good, it sounds like he could begin the year on injured reserve. The 29-year-old posted a 2.90 GAA and an .895 save percentage through a career-high 24 appearances last season. An extended absence for Brossoit or a hot start by Thompson could shape how the team utilizes the tandem once both are available.
- nyisles7

Well that’s not optimal.

Too bad Vegas is so cap (frank)ed, they could've made a great trading partner. Would love to take Hague off their hands.

Well that’s not optimal.

Too bad Vegas is so cap (frank)ed, they could've made a great trading partner. Would love to take Hague off their hands.
- Wildschwein

Pelech-Dobson
Romanov-Pulock
Hague-Mayfield

Varly for Brossoit, a 2nd (2024) and a 3rd (Sabre’s 2023) would get me thinking.
- Wildschwein

I don’t think there’s anyone that WANTS to trade Varlamov. With that said it’s unrealistic to field a team with two starting goaltenders especially with the cap restraints we have. If Lou really wants to make some moves and improve our top 6 he may have to move him. Part of the gamble with the NHL playoffs is staying healthy. I get keeping the odds in your favor with two capable tenders but there’s a give and take with everything. I’m not saying let’s trade him but it may be the only route to improve the team.

I don’t think there’s anyone that WANTS to trade Varlamov. With that said it’s unrealistic to field a team with two starting goaltenders especially with the cap restraints we have. If Lou really wants to make some moves and improve our top 6 he may have to move him. Part of the gamble with the NHL playoffs is staying healthy. I get keeping the odds in your favor with two capable tenders but there’s a give and take with everything. I’m not saying let’s trade him but it may be the only route to improve the team.
- Cptmjl

This

Pelech-Dobson
Romanov-Pulock
Hague-Mayfield
- Wildschwein

That will work

This
- Vukota

Guy never liked Varly from day one

Now I hate Varlamov ^

Varly didn't have a good year last year. I believe he was 8 or 9 games under .500 and close to 2.95 GAA. Not very compelling numbers. Does that effect his trade value?

The Varly from two years ago was fantastic. Last year, not so much.

I don’t think there’s anyone that WANTS to trade Varlamov. With that said it’s unrealistic to field a team with two starting goaltenders especially with the cap restraints we have. If Lou really wants to make some moves and improve our top 6 he may have to move him. Part of the gamble with the NHL playoffs is staying healthy. I get keeping the odds in your favor with two capable tenders but there’s a give and take with everything. I’m not saying let’s trade him but it may be the only route to improve the team.
- Cptmjl

In a Cap world you need to take risks and most teams will be in trouble if they lose their #1 goalie. Very tough to have two highly paid goalies in the NHL today. Would be nice to keep Varly but you move him if it betters the team.

Varly didn't have a good year last year. I believe he was 8 or 9 games under .500 and close to 2.95 GAA. Not very compelling numbers. Does that effect his trade value?

The Varly from two years ago was fantastic. Last year, not so much.
- streaks

A .911 save % is respectable which Varly had last year. 2.95 gaa for him and 2.5 for sOrOkin
Just shows the team in front of them weren’t the same defensively.
SOrOkin was outstanding with a Save % of .925 again behind a sub par Islanders team.
It’s also why he’s the starter and Varly is the backup. Maybe Varly’s play last year is the reason he hasn’t been moved. I don’t think that’s the case but who knows.

A .911 save % is respectable which Varly had last year. 2.95 gaa for him and 2.5 for sOrOkin
Jyst shows the team in front of them weren’t the same defensively.
SOrOkin was outstanding with a Save % of .925 again behind a sub par Islanders team.
It’s also why he’s the starter and Varly is the backup.
- nyisles7

i guess that’s part of my point. $5M for a backup goalie is a little steep. Now if he can get back to his old form and become a 1B, that’s a different story.

i guess that’s part of my point. $5M for a backup goalie is a little steep. Now if he can get back to his old form and become a 1B, that’s a different story.
- streaks

Point taken and agree.
I think both goalies will have better numbers if the team plays like they did in the second half.
So I did a little research and the avg. cap hit for a starter and back up for all 32 teams is ~7.0 million. That was a lot higher than I thought it would be. With most of the PO Teams having at least that. The Isles pay 9.0 for their tandem and are better than most.
My opinion of course.

Time keeps on ticking into the future.

Time keeps on ticking into the future.
- Nfdbulldawg

Today is the day!

Varly didn't have a good year last year. I believe he was 8 or 9 games under .500 and close to 2.95 GAA. Not very compelling numbers. Does that effect his trade value?

The Varly from two years ago was fantastic. Last year, not so much.
- streaks

He certainly struggled at the begining of the season.. as did the rest of the team. I believe he was coming off injury though and got better as season progressed.

I am fine with moving Varly. He is 34 years old and the older you get the more likely to have an injury. I would have like this move to happen at the beginning of the summer so we could have signed an adequate back up (Greiss was my call).. but moving him now saves $$ and if we get a first in the trade.....

One of the main reasons I want Kadri is b/c it costs nothing in players or prospects. it's just money... which unlike most on here I don't give a sht about. If Kadri is here for $7 mill AAV I am very happy. We have improved our top 6 by one of the best UFA signs out there and it cost us Zero in prospects/players.

Everyone who goes bananas for the term are just searching for something to be upset about... Who the freak cares about 2028? the Cap could be $20 million higher and if you need to get rid of him you can... we got rid of Ladd for 2 second round picks.

I care about this year's team on the ice.. not 6 years from now's cap number.

One of the main reasons I want Kadri is b/c it costs nothing in players or prospects. it's just money... which unlike most on here I don't give a sht about. If Kadri is here for $7 mill AAV I am very happy. We have improved our top 6 by one of the best UFA signs out there and it cost us Zero in prospects/players.

Everyone who goes bananas for the term are just searching for something to be upset about... Who the freak cares about 2028? the Cap could be $20 million higher and if you need to get rid of him you can... we got rid of Ladd for 2 second round picks.

I care about this year's team on the ice.. not 6 years from now's cap number.
- niteislander

I plan on lasting till 2028 so I kind of care about having an extra 7 million dollars in cap space rather then a player who more then likely will be contributing little to nothing at that point. I have a real hard time relating to this “logic” and other then Kelly Mcrimmon, along with their ownership, who destroyed the Knights chances of competing this coming season I don’t think anyone shares it.

How anyone can look at our current situation and think, “Yeah let’s keep doing this, it works” is beyond me

Edit; yes a positive with Kadri is he doesn’t cost any assets. That doesn’t mean you screw the pooch with a contract that will maybe be viable for half its term.