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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:54 PM ET
Can't believe Twitter is spreading a rumor that the Blackhawks traded Dach because of his inability to win faceoffs.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
Everyone is forgetting Sikura and signing Piri. Plenty of points out there.
- rpeters01


Hahaha, i completely forgot about them, hahaha
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Aug 28 @ 8:48 PM ET
Can't believe Twitter is spreading a rumor that the Blackhawks traded Dach because of his inability to win faceoffs.
- BetweenTheDots


Don't take it serious, its all bots
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 28 @ 9:28 PM ET
Can't believe Twitter is spreading a rumor that the Blackhawks traded Dach because of his inability to win faceoffs.
- BetweenTheDots


Talking about the Hawks roster being a dumpster fire, Montreal is right there with em
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Aug 29 @ 1:33 AM ET
Talking about the Hawks roster being a dumpster fire, Montreal is right there with em
- LAHawk


Not sure MON is as bad off as the Hawks. Suzuki, Gallagher, Anderson, Dvorak, Hoffman, Dadanov, Caufield, Slafkovsky, Dach. Short on D and Allen in goal but they look a bit ahead of the Hawk's current roster.

And speaking of Dach gonna be interesting to see him under St Louis in MTL. https://www.dailyfaceoff....nd-a-chance-to-break-out/
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 29 @ 7:28 AM ET
Not sure MON is as bad off as the Hawks. Suzuki, Gallagher, Anderson, Dvorak, Hoffman, Dadanov, Caufield, Slafkovsky, Dach. Short on D and Allen in goal but they look a bit ahead of the Hawk's current roster.

And speaking of Dach gonna be interesting to see him under St Louis in MTL. https://www.dailyfaceoff....nd-a-chance-to-break-out/

- Mr Ricochet


Caufield alone makes the Habs better.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Aug 29 @ 7:34 AM ET
I'm a Bears fan and it's refreshing to see the professionalism they are showing in the preseason. Bears are in a transition period, i believe this gm will pay the offense instead of the defense. Oline already looks better than it has for years but in football the most dominant player on the field is the QB, and they might have one, we'll see.

Even if this Blackhawks team is discipline, they just don't have the talent. The 19 players they dress each night, no matter how discipline are going to struggle to score.

- BetweenTheDots

Bears offensive line will be exposed when they start facing the other teams first string edge rushers. But the line is young so hopefully they get better with good coaching.
The Cubs have had a dreadful farm system for most of my 65 years. But if you follow the Cubs now you hear a lot of good news about the players in the minors. Hopefully in the next two years we begin to hear a lot of good news about Hawk prospects in college, juniors, AHL, Europe etc.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Aug 29 @ 8:39 AM ET
I wish under Richardson the players are told not to try the play where they do a drop pass to a teamatte who has built up speed and who gets the puck between center ice and the offensive blueline. Never a fan of that play.

Thoughts on this...
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:52 AM ET
I wish under Richardson the players are told not to try the play where they do a drop pass to a teamatte who has built up speed and who gets the puck between center ice and the offensive blueline. Never a fan of that play.

Thoughts on this...

- jhawk59


That's mostly the "push-em-back" entry for PP's. You see it occasionally 5V5, but in my viewings, less so. If Richardson's statements at his press conference are to be believed, I would assume we will see a lower risk style of play. More concentration on defense and pouncing on the other teams' mistakes. I don't want to take the creativity out of the players' hands, but I think there will be less "what the hell were they thinking" plays this year. They just have such little available talent on the roster that it is expected to be tough to score goals.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Aug 29 @ 10:03 AM ET
Caufield alone makes the Habs better.
- DarthKane


For all the Pronman fans: he ranks many of your other team favorite youngsters behind Lukas Reichel.


Nuff said on his lists...
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
For all the Pronman fans: he ranks many of your other team favorite youngsters behind Lukas Reichel.


Nuff said on his lists...

- wiz1901


Not that I'm defending Pronman, but what is the basis of his rankings? Is it just a subjective ceiling? How soon they will make an impact?

I dumped my Athletic subscription a while back, so I don't actually read him anymore. When I did, he seemed to just give consensus opinion on them and not really dig into what would set a prospect apart from the others.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 29 @ 11:02 AM ET
CHL puff piece on the Hawks draftees who played in the league last year:

https://chl.ca/article/ch...e-chicago-blackhawks-2022
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Aug 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
I wish under Richardson the players are told not to try the play where they do a drop pass to a teamatte who has built up speed and who gets the puck between center ice and the offensive blueline. Never a fan of that play.

Thoughts on this...

- jhawk59


Who's coaching the power play? I assume it will be King since Richardson and the new assistant Kevin Dean are defensive minded. If so possibly expect more of the same, including the "push-em-back" zone entry.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
Can't believe Twitter is spreading a rumor that the Blackhawks traded Dach because of his inability to win faceoffs.
- BetweenTheDots


They also said that Davidson wanted a complete roster reset.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 29 @ 11:08 AM ET
Who's coaching the power play? I assume it will be King since Richardson and the new assistant Kevin Dean are defensive minded. If so possibly expect more of the same, including the "push-em-back" zone entry.
- boilermaker100


They also have Derek Plante. If you watch games around the league, probably 75% r more of the teams use the push back entry to some degree or another on the PP.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 29 @ 11:11 AM ET
Bears offensive line will be exposed when they start facing the other teams first string edge rushers. But the line is young so hopefully they get better with good coaching.
The Cubs have had a dreadful farm system for most of my 65 years. But if you follow the Cubs now you hear a lot of good news about the players in the minors. Hopefully in the next two years we begin to hear a lot of good news about Hawk prospects in college, juniors, AHL, Europe etc.

- Ztra


Maybe but they might actually get better as the season goes on. A decent line takes a while to gel, and IF the QB really is beginning to read the field and coverages then it'll just frustrate the opponent.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Aug 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
They also have Derek Plante. If you watch games around the league, probably 75% r more of the teams use the push back entry to some degree or another on the PP.
- LAHawk


Good catch on Plante. Forgot about him.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 29 @ 11:34 AM ET
Bears offensive line will be exposed when they start facing the other teams first string edge rushers. But the line is young so hopefully they get better with good coaching.
The Cubs have had a dreadful farm system for most of my 65 years. But if you follow the Cubs now you hear a lot of good news about the players in the minors. Hopefully in the next two years we begin to hear a lot of good news about Hawk prospects in college, juniors, AHL, Europe etc.

- Ztra

If they'd had these young pitchers five years ago they would have saved a lot of bad moves and been in the playoffs or contending every year. Geez what a plan. Man genius here 9 years didn't develop one pitcher. That's hard to do if you aren't trying.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 29 @ 11:39 AM ET
My definition of a rebuild: turn the roster over becoming much younger and then able to compete for the conference title. At that point anything is possible.

How long will it take?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 29 @ 11:46 AM ET
Can't believe Twitter is spreading a rumor that the Blackhawks traded Dach because of his inability to win faceoffs.
- BetweenTheDots

He was traded because of his inability to play hockey.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
He was traded because of his inability to play hockey.
- rpeters01


Even for me that is kinda harsh (as I was not as high on him as others on the board) He was traded for a draft choice (prospect) that the current GM feels has greater upside.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
Maybe but they might actually get better as the season goes on. A decent line takes a while to gel, and IF the QB really is beginning to read the field and coverages then it'll just frustrate the opponent.
- BetweenTheDots

In all fairness the QB is a rookie.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 29 @ 11:50 AM ET
Even for me that is kinda harsh (as I was not as high on him as others on the board) He was traded for a draft choice (prospect) that the current GM feels has greater upside.
- LAHawk

I fear he becomes Phil Esposito.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Aug 29 @ 11:57 AM ET
Not that I'm defending Pronman, but what is the basis of his rankings? Is it just a subjective ceiling? How soon they will make an impact?

I dumped my Athletic subscription a while back, so I don't actually read him anymore. When I did, he seemed to just give consensus opinion on them and not really dig into what would set a prospect apart from the others.

- Chunk


Definitely subjective on Pronman's part. As he writes in the article (my bolded)...

This is a ranking meant to show who I think will have the best pro careers, not who I would take in a game tomorrow....

...This list is my opinion of who I think will become the core NHL players from those draft classes; we’ve had the benefit of time to see how some of them have developed.



He has Reichel listed 28 in the "Top of the lineup player" category. Only other Hawk in the top 100 is Nazer at 94.

Take it for what's it worth.







LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
I fear he becomes Phil Esposito.
- rpeters01


Well this blogger using micro stats has him topping out as another Suzuki, maybe

https://www.habseyesonthe...le-nick-suzuki-blackhawks
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