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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:03 PM ET
So you want to keep a 35 year old plug.. Rather then give that spot to a younger player ( you know, the future of the team)
- hehateme


which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.


You guys want Peterka on the 4th line?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
And adding the greatest American player of all time is spending unwisely vs extending Okposo…delusional
- washedup20


9mill over 3 years for a aging player is bad idea. If the money fits for those 3 years sure I'll take Kaner. But doesnt make it a good idea.

extending Okposo for what maybe 2 million? For what.. another year? Doesnt hurt this team whatso ever.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.


You guys want Peterka on the 4th line?

- DirtyDan


Think about that for a second, would you rather one of the leading point getter on your AHL team or you want a 35 year old washed up player?

so I think you know my answer.

Plus how many Rookies come in playing on your top line? He is going to start in a bottom 6 role.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.


You guys want Peterka on the 4th line?

- DirtyDan


He may very well need to be there. I know we like what he brings to the table, but his skill level is so-so. There very will could be a bigger learning curve than many expect.

And adding Kane and losing Okposo has a more positive outcome on the win column than keeping Okposo and not getting Kane, all else being equal.

Okposo the human being is a great guy, and his story is heartwarming. The thing we're all missing is that the win column doesn't know that, or care.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 18 @ 4:09 PM ET
9mill over 3 years for a aging player is bad idea. If the money fits for those 3 years sure I'll take Kaner. But doesnt make it a good idea.

extending Okposo for what maybe 2 million? For what.. another year? Doesnt hurt this team whatso ever.

- DirtyDan


for all things that are holy..... Do you want to win? PK can but 45 pts on the board by Christmas.

Extending Okie brings ZERO value on the ice vs playing the younger guys.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:10 PM ET
He may very well need to be there. I know we like what he brings to the table, but his skill level is so-so. There very will could be a bigger learning curve than many expect.

And adding Kane and losing Okposo has a more positive outcome on the win column than keeping Okposo and not getting Kane, all else being equal.

Okposo the human being is a great guy, and his story is heartwarming. The thing we're all missing is that the win column doesn't know that, or care.

- buffalofan19


But you did not factor in money.

Im not saying Okposo helps this team more than Kane.

okposo for his worth which will be like a million after this year. Hurts nothing. Not cap not roster construction, literally nothing.

Kane at 9 million over 3 years has way more ??????
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:12 PM ET
Think about that for a second, would you rather one of the leading point getter on your AHL team or you want a 35 year old washed up player?

so I think you know my answer.

Plus how many Rookies come in playing on your top line? He is going to start in a bottom 6 role.

- hehateme



Yes lets start him 4th line, low minutes on the PK. Lets not have him in a more offensive role to start.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 18 @ 4:12 PM ET
But you did not factor in money.

Im not saying Okposo helps this team more than Kane.

okposo for his worth which will be like a million after this year. Hurts nothing. Not cap not roster construction, literally nothing.

Kane at 9 million over 3 years has way more ??????

- DirtyDan


When you're talking about a team that needs to acquire a retired goaltender just to get to the floor, that shouldn't matter. We're not talking about some 7-8 year mega deal.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 18 @ 4:12 PM ET
But you did not factor in money.

Im not saying Okposo helps this team more than Kane.

okposo for his worth which will be like a million after this year. Hurts nothing. Not cap not roster construction, literally nothing.

Kane at 9 million over 3 years has way more ??????

- DirtyDan


Answer: W in the win column
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 18 @ 4:13 PM ET
9mill over 3 years for a aging player is bad idea. If the money fits for those 3 years sure I'll take Kaner. But doesnt make it a good idea.

extending Okposo for what maybe 2 million? For what.. another year? Doesnt hurt this team whatso ever.

- DirtyDan



That aging player had 92 points on a non-playoff team…last season. That $9 million is more effectively spent adding him to the lineup, plus he adds actual winning leadership vs Kyle Okposo.

Eichels best year was 82 points at $10 million, like you say, the Sabres have the money. Spend it efficiently not emotionally because a group of kids who finished bottom 10 feel comfortable
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
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Aug 18 @ 4:13 PM ET
When you're talking about a team that needs to acquire a retired goaltender just to get to the floor, that shouldn't matter. We're not talking about some 7-8 year mega deal.
- buffalofan19


We have to start paying people at some point. And it wont start with a near 35 year old Kane at 9 million for 3 years.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
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Aug 18 @ 4:14 PM ET
Answer: W in the win column

- hehateme


Chicago had a lot of those last year
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 18 @ 4:14 PM ET
That aging player had 92 points on a non-playoff team…last season. That $9 million is more effectively spent adding him to the lineup, plus he adds actual winning leadership vs Kyle Okposo.

Eichels best year was 82 points at $10 million, like you say, the Sabres have the money. Spend it efficiently not emotionally because a group of kids who finished bottom 10 feel comfortable

- washedup20


A Freaken men.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
That aging player had 92 points on a non-playoff team…last season. That $9 million is more effectively spent adding him to the lineup, plus he adds actual winning leadership vs Kyle Okposo.

Eichels best year was 82 points at $10 million, like you say, the Sabres have the money. Spend it efficiently not emotionally because a group of kids who finished bottom 10 feel comfortable

- washedup20


Not only that, they needed to play at an unsustainable pace the last month and a half of the season just to get to 7th worst.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.


You guys want Peterka on the 4th line?

- DirtyDan

asplund, someone and someone

Weissbach, Biro and Murray, one of them could be one of the someones

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
asplund, someone and someone

Weissbach, Biro and Murray, one of them could be one of the someones

- homiedclown



My point exactly....

Okposo is better for that role than Murray or Biro

Aplund plays LW Okposo plays RW.


Extending him for another year does not hurt this team at all in any way.

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
Solid RW group

Kane
Quinn
Tuch
Okposo

Everyone's happy
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
We have to start paying people at some point. And it wont start with a near 35 year old Kane at 9 million for 3 years.
- DirtyDan


Pat Kane IMO is the perfect Vet to sign after next year. Ton of offensive upside, has won 3 cups, been through the grinds of the playoffs. I would be saying to sign him even if he was not from Buffalo.

Signing a Pat Kane to a 3 year deal even at 8-9 Million is not going to hurt this team one bit, when players like Okie, Girgs, Anderson are all going to be gone. We will have like 40 Million in Cap space to sign like 6 players next summer....

I have to admit it, GMKA is in great shape cap wise even if we do sign a Pat Kane for the short term.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
Solid RW group

Kane
Quinn
Tuch
Okposo

Everyone's happy

- DirtyDan

would that move them up to tier 2?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
My point exactly....

Okposo is better for that role than Murray or Biro

Aplund plays LW Okposo plays RW.


Extending him for another year does not hurt this team at all in any way.

- DirtyDan

agreed
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
Tough to justify $3 million for a role player, let alone 6.

It would be great if that happens this season, I agree though there is no chance it will.

- washedup20


The Cap hit is the issue, NOT the player
Any Okposo extension would certainly come at a much lower Cap Hit
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
would that move them up to tier 2?
- homiedclown


Stays at Tier 3. Okposo and Kane at 36 is a major unknown
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
The Cap hit is the issue, NOT the player
Any Okposo extension would certainly come at a much lower Cap Hit

- jdfitz77


For me its the player... I like Okie, I really do, but I am not wasting a roster spot on a 35 year old penalty/checking line bottom 6 forward when I have younger faster cheaper players waiting in the wings that can do the same.


DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
Pat Kane IMO is the perfect Vet to sign after next year. Ton of offensive upside, has won 3 cups, been through the grinds of the playoffs. I would be saying to sign him even if he was not from Buffalo.

Signing a Pat Kane to a 3 year deal even at 8-9 Million is not going to hurt this team one bit, when players like Okie, Girgs, Anderson are all going to be gone. We will have like 40 Million in Cap space to sign like 6 players next summer....

I have to admit it, GMKA is in great shape cap wise even if we do sign a Pat Kane for the short term.

- hehateme


I would love Kane don't get me wrong. Problem is in year 2 or 3.

We have to pay nearly everyone on this team in the next 2 years.


DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
For me its the player... I like Okie, I really do, but I am not wasting a roster spot on a 35 year old penalty/checking line bottom 6 forward when I have younger faster cheaper players waiting in the wings that can do the same.
- hehateme


If they could do the same they would be here already... We don't know they can.

We know Okie is a solid 4th line player that can put up 40 pts.
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