DirtyDan
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So you want to keep a 35 year old plug.. Rather then give that spot to a younger player ( you know, the future of the team) - hehateme
which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.
You guys want Peterka on the 4th line? |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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And adding the greatest American player of all time is spending unwisely vs extending Okposo…delusional - washedup20
9mill over 3 years for a aging player is bad idea. If the money fits for those 3 years sure I'll take Kaner. But doesnt make it a good idea.
extending Okposo for what maybe 2 million? For what.. another year? Doesnt hurt this team whatso ever. |
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hehateme
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which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.
You guys want Peterka on the 4th line? - DirtyDan
Think about that for a second, would you rather one of the leading point getter on your AHL team or you want a 35 year old washed up player?
so I think you know my answer.
Plus how many Rookies come in playing on your top line? He is going to start in a bottom 6 role.
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.
You guys want Peterka on the 4th line? - DirtyDan
He may very well need to be there. I know we like what he brings to the table, but his skill level is so-so. There very will could be a bigger learning curve than many expect.
And adding Kane and losing Okposo has a more positive outcome on the win column than keeping Okposo and not getting Kane, all else being equal.
Okposo the human being is a great guy, and his story is heartwarming. The thing we're all missing is that the win column doesn't know that, or care. |
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hehateme
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9mill over 3 years for a aging player is bad idea. If the money fits for those 3 years sure I'll take Kaner. But doesnt make it a good idea.
extending Okposo for what maybe 2 million? For what.. another year? Doesnt hurt this team whatso ever. - DirtyDan
for all things that are holy..... Do you want to win? PK can but 45 pts on the board by Christmas.
Extending Okie brings ZERO value on the ice vs playing the younger guys.
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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He may very well need to be there. I know we like what he brings to the table, but his skill level is so-so. There very will could be a bigger learning curve than many expect.
And adding Kane and losing Okposo has a more positive outcome on the win column than keeping Okposo and not getting Kane, all else being equal.
Okposo the human being is a great guy, and his story is heartwarming. The thing we're all missing is that the win column doesn't know that, or care. - buffalofan19
But you did not factor in money.
Im not saying Okposo helps this team more than Kane.
okposo for his worth which will be like a million after this year. Hurts nothing. Not cap not roster construction, literally nothing.
Kane at 9 million over 3 years has way more ?????? |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Think about that for a second, would you rather one of the leading point getter on your AHL team or you want a 35 year old washed up player?
so I think you know my answer.
Plus how many Rookies come in playing on your top line? He is going to start in a bottom 6 role. - hehateme
Yes lets start him 4th line, low minutes on the PK. Lets not have him in a more offensive role to start.
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buffalofan19
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But you did not factor in money.
Im not saying Okposo helps this team more than Kane.
okposo for his worth which will be like a million after this year. Hurts nothing. Not cap not roster construction, literally nothing.
Kane at 9 million over 3 years has way more ?????? - DirtyDan
When you're talking about a team that needs to acquire a retired goaltender just to get to the floor, that shouldn't matter. We're not talking about some 7-8 year mega deal.
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hehateme
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But you did not factor in money.
Im not saying Okposo helps this team more than Kane.
okposo for his worth which will be like a million after this year. Hurts nothing. Not cap not roster construction, literally nothing.
Kane at 9 million over 3 years has way more ?????? - DirtyDan
Answer: W in the win column
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washedup20
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Location: the little apple Joined: 08.19.2014
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9mill over 3 years for a aging player is bad idea. If the money fits for those 3 years sure I'll take Kaner. But doesnt make it a good idea.
extending Okposo for what maybe 2 million? For what.. another year? Doesnt hurt this team whatso ever. - DirtyDan
That aging player had 92 points on a non-playoff team…last season. That $9 million is more effectively spent adding him to the lineup, plus he adds actual winning leadership vs Kyle Okposo.
Eichels best year was 82 points at $10 million, like you say, the Sabres have the money. Spend it efficiently not emotionally because a group of kids who finished bottom 10 feel comfortable |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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When you're talking about a team that needs to acquire a retired goaltender just to get to the floor, that shouldn't matter. We're not talking about some 7-8 year mega deal. - buffalofan19
We have to start paying people at some point. And it wont start with a near 35 year old Kane at 9 million for 3 years.
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Answer: W in the win column
- hehateme
Chicago had a lot of those last year
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hehateme
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That aging player had 92 points on a non-playoff team…last season. That $9 million is more effectively spent adding him to the lineup, plus he adds actual winning leadership vs Kyle Okposo.
Eichels best year was 82 points at $10 million, like you say, the Sabres have the money. Spend it efficiently not emotionally because a group of kids who finished bottom 10 feel comfortable - washedup20
A Freaken men. |
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buffalofan19
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That aging player had 92 points on a non-playoff team…last season. That $9 million is more effectively spent adding him to the lineup, plus he adds actual winning leadership vs Kyle Okposo.
Eichels best year was 82 points at $10 million, like you say, the Sabres have the money. Spend it efficiently not emotionally because a group of kids who finished bottom 10 feel comfortable - washedup20
Not only that, they needed to play at an unsustainable pace the last month and a half of the season just to get to 7th worst.
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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which young player are we slotting into a defensive role like that? PK time and all.
You guys want Peterka on the 4th line? - DirtyDan
asplund, someone and someone
Weissbach, Biro and Murray, one of them could be one of the someones
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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asplund, someone and someone
Weissbach, Biro and Murray, one of them could be one of the someones - homiedclown
My point exactly....
Okposo is better for that role than Murray or Biro
Aplund plays LW Okposo plays RW.
Extending him for another year does not hurt this team at all in any way.
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Solid RW group
Kane
Quinn
Tuch
Okposo
Everyone's happy |
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hehateme
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We have to start paying people at some point. And it wont start with a near 35 year old Kane at 9 million for 3 years. - DirtyDan
Pat Kane IMO is the perfect Vet to sign after next year. Ton of offensive upside, has won 3 cups, been through the grinds of the playoffs. I would be saying to sign him even if he was not from Buffalo.
Signing a Pat Kane to a 3 year deal even at 8-9 Million is not going to hurt this team one bit, when players like Okie, Girgs, Anderson are all going to be gone. We will have like 40 Million in Cap space to sign like 6 players next summer....
I have to admit it, GMKA is in great shape cap wise even if we do sign a Pat Kane for the short term.
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Solid RW group
Kane
Quinn
Tuch
Okposo
Everyone's happy - DirtyDan
would that move them up to tier 2? |
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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My point exactly....
Okposo is better for that role than Murray or Biro
Aplund plays LW Okposo plays RW.
Extending him for another year does not hurt this team at all in any way. - DirtyDan
agreed |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Tough to justify $3 million for a role player, let alone 6.
It would be great if that happens this season, I agree though there is no chance it will. - washedup20
The Cap hit is the issue, NOT the player
Any Okposo extension would certainly come at a much lower Cap Hit |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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would that move them up to tier 2? - homiedclown
Stays at Tier 3. Okposo and Kane at 36 is a major unknown
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hehateme
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The Cap hit is the issue, NOT the player
Any Okposo extension would certainly come at a much lower Cap Hit - jdfitz77
For me its the player... I like Okie, I really do, but I am not wasting a roster spot on a 35 year old penalty/checking line bottom 6 forward when I have younger faster cheaper players waiting in the wings that can do the same.
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Pat Kane IMO is the perfect Vet to sign after next year. Ton of offensive upside, has won 3 cups, been through the grinds of the playoffs. I would be saying to sign him even if he was not from Buffalo.
Signing a Pat Kane to a 3 year deal even at 8-9 Million is not going to hurt this team one bit, when players like Okie, Girgs, Anderson are all going to be gone. We will have like 40 Million in Cap space to sign like 6 players next summer....
I have to admit it, GMKA is in great shape cap wise even if we do sign a Pat Kane for the short term. - hehateme
I would love Kane don't get me wrong. Problem is in year 2 or 3.
We have to pay nearly everyone on this team in the next 2 years.
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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For me its the player... I like Okie, I really do, but I am not wasting a roster spot on a 35 year old penalty/checking line bottom 6 forward when I have younger faster cheaper players waiting in the wings that can do the same. - hehateme
If they could do the same they would be here already... We don't know they can.
We know Okie is a solid 4th line player that can put up 40 pts.
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