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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
Kerfoot? Thats Monahan
- Santo_44

Yes, Monahan. So who does Montreal move to make room? I’m getting dizzy
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
Kerfoot for Trenin and a pick makes sense.

But I'd love Jeannot. Pipe dream though I think.
BrainSap
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.19.2016

Aug 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
Knies feels like a “ I told you so pick” by Dubas. Always getting criticized for drafting smart little forwards, knies is anything but intelligent, often making blind Hope plays to no one. Hes got the size and you can’t teach big but hopefully this kid can make a lot of improvement on and off the puck.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Aug 18 @ 1:41 PM ET
Habs.

Do I have to do everything around here?

- Canada Cup


if you're impatient .... then YES!!!!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
Knies feels like a “ I told you so pick” by Dubas. Always getting criticized for drafting smart little forwards, knies is anything but intelligent, often making blind Hope plays to no one. Hes got the size and you can’t teach big but hopefully this kid can make a lot of improvement on and off the puck.
- BrainSap

He's still young.
He can change.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
He's still young.
He can change.

- Fakepartofme


i dont know, feels like a bust. should have picked one of the other players taken after him who I also never heard of at the time
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
He's still young.
He can change.

- Fakepartofme

But he’s how do Leafs win the Cup if the rookie on the first line sucks?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
Kerfoot for Trenin and a pick makes sense.

But I'd love Jeannot. Pipe dream though I think.

- Santo_44

Kerftoot and a 3rd are being traded to Minnie for a Kerfoot.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 18 @ 2:06 PM ET
Kerftoot and a 3rd are being traded to Minnie for a Kerfoot.
- Fakepartofme



To Ducks for Baby Z ... oh and Drysdale...


No... Kerfoot and 3rd for Comtois and a 2nd.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
Yes, Monahan. So who does Montreal move to make room? I’m getting dizzy
- Canada Cup


Drouin isn't enough. I thought it might have to do with whatever Nashville is announcing, but they have no money either. The Habs still don't even have enough to sign Dach.

I mean let's say Calgary retains $1.5 on Monahan, bringing him to around $3.8, can he be moved by Montreal then with some retention for a pick or incentive? Who knows? The math of it is still missing some equations before it's all done, that's for sure!

Edit: Nashville is just draft & awards - who f'n cares? Is Monahan healthy? Is Price?Drouin? I don't get the move for the Habs.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Aug 18 @ 2:26 PM ET
Drouin isn't enough. I thought it might have to do with whatever Nashville is announcing, but they have no money either. The Habs still don't even have enough to sign Dach.

I mean let's say Calgary retains $1.5 on Monahan, bringing him to around $3.8, can he be moved by Montreal then with some retention for a pick or incentive? Who knows? The math of it is still missing some equations before it's all done, that's for sure!

Edit: Nashville is just draft & awards - who f'n cares? Is Monahan healthy? Is Price?Drouin? I don't get the move for the Habs.

- Monkeypunk


Reports are that Monahans rehab is ahead of schedule. So looks like he will be on the roster opening night. If he was LTIR the flames would have just kept him.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 18 @ 2:27 PM ET


So. In a nutshell, this is Calgary:

In
Huberdeau
Weegar
Kadri
2025 lottery protected 1st

Out
Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Monahan
Gudbranson
Reported 1st to Montreal
2025/2026 4th

Their D gets better, but in some ways it doesn't get as better as just adding Weegar would do for most teams - because it was already excellent. Weegar makes them better - he's better than Gudbranson, for instance - and whichever role Weegar takes, the person playing those Gudbranson minutes will likely do a better job - and Weegar will probably be a bit of an improvement over whoever he replaces - but those incremental improvements (I expect Weegar displaces Kylington) won't be that Earth shattering because they were already very good.

Losing Tkachuk sucks. He's a better pest than most in the league, and he's physical, and he plays in areas where other people don't want to be. Tkachuk is like a dirty bumhole, and Kadri is, by comparison, like a sun bleached bumhole. You know. You still ask things like, "Why do you do that?" but it's for a different reason. I don't think Kadri situates in the dirty areas, but he'll go there. Kadri is more of a distributor than a shooter, and he is 32.

Losing Gaudreau really sucks. He's an engine. I really like Huberdeau as a distributor, but he's less of a carrier. Gaudreau was a zone exit and zone entry machine. They will miss that.

Overall Calgary did really well given their challenges, but they are a marginally worse team for it. And they lose a 1st round pick, apparently, in order to afford it.


senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 18 @ 2:28 PM ET
Jays vs Skankees for 4 games.
kinda big series

Jays are 3-7 last 10, skankees are 3-7

so I expect a split
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Aug 18 @ 2:31 PM ET
So. In a nutshell, this is Calgary:

In
Huberdeau
Weegar
Kadri
2025 lottery protected 1st

Out
Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Monahan
Gudbranson
Reported 1st to Montreal
2025/2026 4th

Their D gets better, but in some ways it doesn't get as better as just adding Weegar would do for most teams - because it was already excellent. Weegar makes them better - he's better than Gudbranson, for instance - and whichever role Weegar takes, the person playing those Gudbranson minutes will likely do a better job - and Weegar will probably be a bit of an improvement over whoever he replaces - but those incremental improvements (I expect Weegar displaces Kylington) won't be that Earth shattering because they were already very good.

Losing Tkachuk sucks. He's a better pest than most in the league, and he's physical, and he plays in areas where other people don't want to be. Tkachuk is like a dirty bumhole, and Kadri is, by comparison, like a sun bleached bumhole. You know. You still ask things like, "Why do you do that?" but it's for a different reason. I don't think Kadri situates in the dirty areas, but he'll go there. Kadri is more of a distributor than a shooter, and he is 32.

Losing Gaudreau really sucks. He's an engine. I really like Huberdeau as a distributor, but he's less of a carrier. Gaudreau was a zone exit and zone entry machine. They will miss that.

Overall Calgary did really well given their challenges, but they are a marginally worse team for it. And they lose a 1st round pick, apparently, in order to afford it.

- Monkeypunk

Cole Schwindt too
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Cole Schwindt too
- mr.sir



I sort of ignored him because he's a bit of a non-factor. I think his maximum upside is as a bottom-6 guy, and his likely ceiling is physical 13th forward.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Well I assume Price is going on LTIR so that clears 10 million from the cap. Dach can be signed after the first day of the season if they wanted to be not give him a camp. Can he attend camp and pre-season without a contract?

If they don't want to LTIR Price to make it all work there's a number of guys who may want out. Hoffman, Savard both come to mind. Maybe looking to win or not be apart of a tank/rebuild.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
Jays vs Skankees for 4 games.
kinda big series

Jays are 3-7 last 10, skankees are 3-7

so I expect a split

- senstroll


Orioles need to lose. Jays need a series win but they just lost to the Orioles in a series. I do not have high hopes.


Not going to lie, I am kind of hoping they miss the playoffs so I can see what this management does/maybe gets fired.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
Bradley Zimmer has been claimed off outright assignment waivers by the Phillies, #BlueJays announce


Zimmer era is over. his 28 OPS+ is an impressive stat...for being amazingly awful
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
Orioles need to lose. Jays need a series win but they just lost to the Orioles in a series. I do not have high hopes.


Not going to lie, I am kind of hoping they miss the playoffs so I can see what this management does/maybe gets fired.

- Aaron_85


at Least thats not only a Dubas/Leafs thing
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
at Least thats not only a Dubas/Leafs thing
- senstroll


I won't saddle the line and pretend to be happy if they make the playoffs. I don't think the current management team has the balls to make the moves to put the team over the top.

Kikuchi being paid $16 million this year because he would sign for multiple years kind of tells you what we need to know about the management team.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
I won't saddle the line and pretend to be happy if they make the playoffs. I don't think the current management team has the balls to make the moves to put the team over the top.

Kikuchi being paid $16 million this year because he would sign for multiple years kind of tells you what we need to know about the management team.

- Aaron_85


not every move always works out. kikuchi not working out doesnt really tell you much of anything tbh
trades for Ray and Stripling have worked out well.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Aug 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
I sort of ignored him because he's a bit of a non-factor. I think his maximum upside is as a bottom-6 guy, and his likely ceiling is physical 13th forward.
- Monkeypunk

I read he could be a pleasant surprise 🤷
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Zimmer era is over. his 28 OPS+ is an impressive stat...for being amazingly awful
- senstroll


In the entire league, the only guys still on MLB teams that have worse stats in at least 80 plate appearances are Pache, Clemens (yeah, Roger's kid), and Castro on the Astros.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Aug 18 @ 3:02 PM ET
In the entire league, the only guys still on MLB teams that have worse stats in at least 80 plate appearances are Pache, Clemens (yeah, Roger's kid), and Castro on the Astros.
- Monkeypunk

So he couldn’t even be the best at being bad

What a joke
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 18 @ 3:02 PM ET
I read he could be a pleasant surprise 🤷
- mr.sir


I'm no expert either, but I bet that article was written by a Calgary writer trying to spin positive - one of those, "The hidden gem of this trade could be player 'x'". We've all seen that same article written 100 times, and I don't think it's ever been right.

I think a guy like Schwindt could fit in with what Sutter likes - grind and physicality - but he's a poor skater and doesn't have a lot of hockey IQ. He's 21 and apparently made steps last year in his skating, so there's lots of hope that he can get there, but Florida gave him a look (with Heponiemi and Thornton, so it wasn't actually "a chance", it was just a look) and it was pretty ugly. He'll need speed around him to be successful regardless of how much he manages to improve, I think.
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