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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Aug 18 @ 6:01 PM ET
See the article here it literally gives me a headache to try and understand this: https://www.nhl.com/canad...-0818-SeanMonahan-Release no wonder it took half a day to work out
- Karine Hains

Holy crap ... I thought Quantum Physics was hard.
koarik91
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Hockey's capital, QC
Joined: 07.01.2006

Aug 18 @ 6:02 PM ET
WoW, hey it’s a first round. Just don’t know which one 😂
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:03 PM ET
Holy crap ... I thought Quantum Physics was hard.
- Garfield512



this is probably a record for one of the most complicated conditions ever. I think the strategy is that other teams don't understand clearly what's going on, so that the habs get free picks...
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:04 PM ET
See the article here it literally gives me a headache to try and understand this: https://www.nhl.com/canad...-0818-SeanMonahan-Release no wonder it took half a day to work out
- Karine Hains


Long story short -
If CGY picks 20-32 in 2024, Habs can choose that pick.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and both are out of the top 10, MTL gets the best
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and CGY is in the top 10, MTL gets FLA's.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026, MTL gets CGY's 1st in 2025 unless it's 1st overall
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026 and CGY picks 1st in 2025, MTL gets the best of the 2 first picks in 2026.

Is what I understand. There's also 3rd and 4th rounders involved but who cares.

CGY will get FLA's 2025 1st pick, unless it wins a lottery, in which case it defaults to 2026.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:05 PM ET
Long story short -
If CGY picks 20-32 in 2024, Habs can choose that pick.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and both are out of the top 10, MTL gets the best
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and CGY is in the top 10, MTL gets FLA's.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026, MTL gets CGY's 1st in 2025 unless it's 1st overall
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026 and CGY picks 1st in 2025, MTL gets the best of the 2 first picks in 2026.

Is what I understand. There's also 3rd and 4th rounders involved but who cares.

- jugkope


is it possible to dumb it down a bit more..? I still find it's a headache
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 18 @ 6:05 PM ET
So no one going to Calgary, Mtl is now 6.1 M over the cap, no biggie in the offseason but it has to be sorted out… kinda thinking Price may be back on LTIR before long…unless Monahan’s hip is not ready? So many questions, so few answers…
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:07 PM ET
is it possible to dumb it down a bit more..? I still find it's a headache
- Pat1993


Not really. I can add what Florida's 2025 pick condition is buuuut that won't help.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Aug 18 @ 6:10 PM ET
Long story short -
If CGY picks 20-32 in 2024, Habs can choose that pick.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and both are out of the top 10, MTL gets the best
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and CGY is in the top 10, MTL gets FLA's.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026, MTL gets CGY's 1st in 2025 unless it's 1st overall
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026 and CGY picks 1st in 2025, MTL gets the best of the 2 first picks in 2026.

Is what I understand. There's also 3rd and 4th rounders involved but who cares.

- jugkope

The little old lady in the NHL office that typed this just commited suicide. RIP !

EDIT: So in a nutshell, we're getting CGY's first pick sometime between now and the next ice age. Gotcha!
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 18 @ 6:11 PM ET
Hughes confirms Price on LTIR basically doesnt see a way he plays this year
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Aug 18 @ 6:12 PM ET
Long story short -
If CGY picks 20-32 in 2024, Habs can choose that pick.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and both are out of the top 10, MTL gets the best
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2025, and CGY is in the top 10, MTL gets FLA's.

If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026, MTL gets CGY's 1st in 2025 unless it's 1st overall
If CGY gets FLA's 1st in 2026 and CGY picks 1st in 2025, MTL gets the best of the 2 first picks in 2026.

Is what I understand. There's also 3rd and 4th rounders involved but who cares.

CGY will get FLA's 2025 1st pick, unless it wins a lottery, in which case it defaults to 2026.

- jugkope



jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:13 PM ET
is it possible to dumb it down a bit more..? I still find it's a headache
- Pat1993


2024: Montreal can take CGY's pick if it's between 20 and 32

If not
2025: Similar to Dvorak trade - best pick unless CGY is top 10. If FLA is top 10, CGY gets their 2026 1st instead, in which case the pick is only 1st OA-protected

If CGY picks top 10 in 2025
2026: Best between FLA and CGY's 1st.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 18 @ 6:13 PM ET
So no one going to Calgary, Mtl is now 6.1 M over the cap, no biggie in the offseason but it has to be sorted out… kinda thinking Price may be back on LTIR before long…unless Monahan’s hip is not ready? So many questions, so few answers…
- Karine Hains


Is Guhle a lock to make the big club ???

If so perhaps shipping Matheson off to the Ducks for a couple of 2nd and a 3rd picks may be something to look at to clear cap space.. Ducks need a reliable LHD after Cam.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 18 @ 6:13 PM ET
a first in 3 years, and the return for Monahan at the tdl, probably a 2nd if they retain 50%.
so a 1st and a 2nd for nothing.
difficult to complain.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:14 PM ET
The little old lady in the NHL office that typed this just commited suicide. RIP !

EDIT: So in a nutshell, we're getting CGY's first pick sometime between now and the next ice age. Gotcha!

- Garfield512


The longer we wait, the better it can get.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:14 PM ET

- Wildschwein


My version is still simpler than EE's
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 18 @ 6:14 PM ET
Kent Hughes confirms that they will accomodate Monahan’s salary by putting Price on LTIR, the news on his knee are discouraging, doesnt see a way he gets back to play this season. No progress on the knee. Plasma injection did not help.
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 18 @ 6:16 PM ET
Kent Hughes confirms that they will accomodate Monahan’s salary by putting Price on LTIR, the news on his knee are discouraging, doesnt see a way he gets back to play this season. No progress on the knee. Plasma injection did not help.
- Karine Hains

Doubt he will ever play again. What a great career though!!
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 18 @ 6:17 PM ET
a first in 3 years, and the return for Monahan at the tdl, probably a 2nd if they retain 50%.
so a 1st and a 2nd for nothing.
difficult to complain.

- fidopro

Now and forever known as Monahab
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Aug 18 @ 6:19 PM ET
a first in 3 years, and the return for Monahan at the tdl, probably a 2nd if they retain 50%.
so a 1st and a 2nd for nothing.
difficult to complain.

- fidopro

Yep ... not a bad day's work for HuGo.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 18 @ 6:22 PM ET
Doubt he will ever play again. What a great career though!!
- AGalchenyuk27



yeah, it ends on such a sour note though, really sucks but oh well.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Aug 18 @ 6:22 PM ET
Kent Hughes confirms that they will accomodate Monahan’s salary by putting Price on LTIR, the news on his knee are discouraging, doesnt see a way he gets back to play this season. No progress on the knee. Plasma injection did not help.
- Karine Hains

I'm not even surprised ... he's done.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Aug 18 @ 6:27 PM ET
Doubt he will ever play again. What a great career though!!
- AGalchenyuk27

Yup, really carried the team on his back for a while.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 18 @ 6:27 PM ET
That unlikely cup run will have claimed 2 careers in the end, the Captain and the Star Goaltender, Weber and Price, the 2 foundational pillars of the Bergevin era…#gohabsgo This is a sad day for Canadiens fans everywhere.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Aug 18 @ 6:29 PM ET
See the article here it literally gives me a headache to try and understand this: https://www.nhl.com/canad...-0818-SeanMonahan-Release no wonder it took half a day to work out
- Karine Hains

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 18 @ 6:32 PM ET
That unlikely cup run will have claimed 2 careers in the end, the Captain and the Star Goaltender, Weber and Price, the 2 foundational pillars of the Bergevin era…#gohabsgo This is a sad day for Canadiens fans everywhere.
- Karine Hains

euh, not really no.
we turn the page, look to the future. this is actually a good news.
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