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I'm sticking with it's better to let him walk for nothing than sign him to a bad deal. - VanHockeyGuy
I think that's where Aquilini is, make the playoffs get 10-15 mil in your pocket and let Miller walk and save 70 mil, it's a smart business move, he can buy more blueberry fields with that 10-15 mil and get stronger control of the berry market. The hockey team will still make the same money the next season. I support it all the way.
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I think that's where Aquilini is, make the playoffs get 10-15 mil in your pocket and let Miller walk and save 70 mil, it's a smart business move, he can buy more blueberry fields with that 10-15 mil and get stronger control of the berry market. The hockey team will still make the same money the next season. I support it all the way.
He is a businessman after all. - A_SteamingLombardi
We should try alternate uniforms in blueberry colours as they ripen. Green, white, blue. |
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Right and that's why some aren't happy with the team yet, it's quite simple. - A_SteamingLombardi
Yes quite simple ....6 weeks till the start of the season no time to do anything...got it
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Not that I think any canuck management could juggle this many balls in the air at once, but I actually thought it made sense to trade miller for the prospects/picks and sign kadri. End up with free assets, not much of a downgrade and probably a PR win as well with Van likely having one of the largest muslim fan bases. Kadri perhaps one of the few that might entertain Van as a FA destination as well having just won the cup and winning near-term maybe not as important.
Alas, Tree beat us to it and used the free asset to turn his lemon situation into some damn fine lemonade! - Sayros
I like Kadri, but no way would I give him the term for the Canucks. That lemonade will actually be a jar of piss in 4 years. |
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I think by funny you might mean stupid - neem55
I don't think it's stupid. We're referring to a soon to be 30 year old player who has never once reached 100pts as our 100 point player.
He has legit cracked 80 pts once. He was on pace to one other season but never to crack 90 even before last season. |
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If they moved him at TDL or draft, they would have had the summer as their best opportunity to iron out the roster for this and future seasons... a good start. Now they are in a completely different situation and painted themselves into a corner. Now it's a much lesser return or get the best out of this season and let him walk for reasons I stated above.
There is still chances they come out of it with a good trade but in reality, that likelihood has greatly narrowed and continues to do so... - boonerbuck
With a team on the cusp of doing something decent if they move Miller now and set the club back another 5 years either way they can't win. It's a weird situation. Basically, they'll see what they have until TDL this coming season and go from there. Plus if a Miller trade happens and the return(s) end up being a dud...well then there that too lol. No harm in seeing what this team can do under Boudreau. |
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We should try alternate uniforms in blueberry colours as they ripen. Green, white, blue. - golfingsince
Blueberries are perfect for the Canucks because when you open them they're yellow inside. |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Your war on 99 vs 100 points is really funny to me - NorthNuck
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boonerbuck
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With a team on the cusp of doing something decent if they move Miller now and set the club back another 5 years either way they can't win. It's a weird situation. Basically, they'll see what they have until TDL this coming season and go from there. Plus if a Miller trade happens and the return(s) end up being a dud...well then there that too lol. No harm in seeing what this team can do under Boudreau. - LordHumungous
Trading Miller sets the team back this season not 5 seasons. You are assuming he'll be here 5 seasons? Not bloody likely.
So have a decent run this season but in reality, that will be what sets the team back multiple seasons when he walks for nothing and management fills holes with UFA's or has to trade youth away to make up for it...
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- dbot
Facts are so silly. |
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Marwood
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Trading Miller sets the team back this season not 5 seasons. You are assuming he'll be here 5 seasons? Not bloody likely.
So have a decent run this season but in reality, that will be what sets the team back multiple seasons when he walks for nothing and management fills holes with UFA's or has to trade youth away to make up for it... - boonerbuck
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I think by funny you might mean stupid - neem55
I bet you if you polled 100 NHL players who have scored 100 points in a season, and asked them if they would consider a player who scored 99 as one of the 100 point guys, all 100 of those players would tell you to go (frank) yourself.
That’s a significant milestone that not that many people achieve, and there is a lot of pride by those who did. |
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NorthNuck
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I bet you if you polled 100 NHL players who have scored 100 points in a season, and asked them if they would consider a player who scored 99 as one of the 100 point guys, all 100 of those players would tell you to go (frank) yourself.
That’s a significant milestone that not that many people achieve, and there is a lot of pride by those who did. - 1970vintage
Except in this forum, where the reference doesn't have to do with the exact total, it's much more about suggesting relative value of the player, much in the way you'll sometimes see people refer to a guy who put up 80 as a point-per-game player. |
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I bet you if you polled 100 NHL players who have scored 100 points in a season, and asked them if they would consider a player who scored 99 as one of the 100 point guys, all 100 of those players would tell you to go (frank) yourself.
That’s a significant milestone that not that many people achieve, and there is a lot of pride by those who did. - 1970vintage
Yup, Miller himself, was pissed that he didn't hit the 100 mark.
When he walks for nothing everyone can say "at least he wasn't a 100 point player". |
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I bet you if you polled 100 NHL players who have scored 100 points in a season, and asked them if they would consider a player who scored 99 as one of the 100 point guys, all 100 of those players would tell you to go (frank) yourself.
That’s a significant milestone that not that many people achieve, and there is a lot of pride by those who did. - 1970vintage
Exactly and thank you. |
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Marwood
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Except in this forum, where the reference doesn't have to do with the exact total, it's much more about suggesting relative value of the player, much in the way you'll sometimes see people refer to a guy who put up 80 as a point-per-game player. - NorthNuck
So, if his contract gives him a $500,000 bonus for 100 points , do you give it to him for almost getting 100? |
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boonerbuck
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I bet you if you polled 100 NHL players who have scored 100 points in a season, and asked them if they would consider a player who scored 99 as one of the 100 point guys, all 100 of those players would tell you to go (frank) yourself.
That’s a significant milestone that not that many people achieve, and there is a lot of pride by those who did. - 1970vintage
I agree. In the eyes of players it is like this when talking milestones. When it comes to agreeing on contracts in negotiations between agents and management.... or trade negotiations between managements on the value of a player.... 1 single point doesn't create a large gap in salary or trade value. The arguments are light years apart between milestones and values.
99 points.... 100 points.... the difference of touching the puck for a secondary assist... hardly worth a debate... |
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boonerbuck
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So, if his contract gives him a $500,000 bonus for 100 points , do you give it to him for almost getting 100? - Marwood
Not a fkn chance.
Do you think 1 point is the difference of millions in contract negotiations over base salary? Nope... no difference at all.
It's splitting hairs in the argument with Lordy. Like saying I live 10km down that road.... "no you don't... you live 9.9km down that road...."
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boonerbuck
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Except in this forum, where the reference doesn't have to do with the exact total, it's much more about suggesting relative value of the player, much in the way you'll sometimes see people refer to a guy who put up 80 as a point-per-game player. - NorthNuck
Reasonable post...
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1970vintage
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1970vintage
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Except in this forum, where the reference doesn't have to do with the exact total, it's much more about suggesting relative value of the player, much in the way you'll sometimes see people refer to a guy who put up 80 as a point-per-game player. - NorthNuck
He’s going to command more than Kadri did because he scored more, and is still seen as a gritty two way guy (though I disagree with that), but he won’t get the same contract offers as a guy who did actually score 100points. For example, he won’t get Johnny Hockey money.
I also disagree that it’s some generic reference. It’s suggesting that Miller IS A 100 point player - i.e. he will continue to be, not that he had a great season, well above his normal output. Could he continue to be that guy? Sure, he could. He could also be a 70 point player… I guess we’ll see. |
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I agree. In the eyes of players it is like this when talking milestones. When it comes to agreeing on contracts in negotiations between agents and management.... or trade negotiations between managements on the value of a player.... 1 single point doesn't create a large gap in salary or trade value. The arguments are light years apart between milestones and values.
99 points.... 100 points.... the difference of touching the puck for a secondary assist... hardly worth a debate... - boonerbuck
I don’t think he’ll get 100 point money. |
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CanuckDon
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I don't think it's stupid. We're referring to a soon to be 30 year old player who has never once reached 100pts as our 100 point player.
He has legit cracked 80 pts once. He was on pace to one other season but never to crack 90 even before last season. - golfingsince
It’s far less of a stretch than folks constantly referring to Boeser as a 30 goal scorer. What in the (frank) |
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boonerbuck
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It’s far less of a stretch than folks constantly referring to Boeser as a 30 goal scorer. What in the (frank) - CanuckDon
The difference is basically 1% in the Miller argument vs 10% in the Boeser argument. So, yeah, you are right. |
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