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Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
I mean have we had that in the last decade other then arguably Tavares? We’ve still managed to compete at a high level two of the last three seasons. I say that agreeing with the idea that they were Covid shortened seasons which helped us in a big way. I’m also not saying we’re a shoe in over an 82 game season to make the playoffs in our division. Just saying that the mediocre top 9 players and low level grinder types have carried the ball fairly well for us for three of the last four years. Lee scored 40 goals once that’s cool
- Cptmjl

We had tavares and barzal for a year and that was the most skill we have had in a loooonng time. If this team can still play good d and open it up a bit they will be ok especially if sorokin is locked in. I think palmeri will be better and Lee wasn't healthy to start last year imo. They should regress to the mean and score more, will it be enough idk
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
We had tavares and barzal for a year and that was the most skill we have had in a loooonng time. If this team can still play good d and open it up a bit they will be ok especially if sorokin is locked in. I think palmeri will be better and Lee wasn't healthy to start last year imo. They should regress to the mean and score more, will it be enough idk
- Upstate_isles


These are the questions. Do the Islanders have enough talent to win a Cup. It's not just Islander fans on this board and elsewhere asking. It's many in the NHL as well.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 5:50 PM ET
Islanders can compete and be a very tough out in the playoffs but can they win it all without more high end talent? So far the answer has been No. It's a huge ask to expect the goalies and defense to carry you all the way. High end talent is important and can win you games when most of the team is struggling. Outside of Barzal, the Isles did not have another player that could make a big play against Tampa and score a goal when really needed.
- ses111

You have to acknowledge we were two goals away from the cup. We would’ve beat Montreal if we made it. We did that without high end talent albeit in a shortened season. Though I do agree that we’re going to need a lot to break for us to compete this season imo. I dont think anyone didn’t think we needed an upgrade to our top 6 including Lameriello. Just didn’t happen.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 23 @ 5:55 PM ET
You have to acknowledge we were two goals away from the cup. We would’ve beat Montreal if we made it. We did that without high end talent albeit in a shortened season. Though I do agree that we’re going to need a lot to break for us to compete this season imo. I dont think anyone didn’t think we needed upgrade to our top 6 including Lameriello. Just didn’t happen.
- Cptmjl

2 goals away and yes we would have beaten Montreal but sadly we didn't. I think this team has to play 100% every game to win and its hard to do over 82 games. In the playoffs their style is perfect but in the regular season they can't take a night off and thays taxing. Rangers had a killer pp and goalie and rode that into the ecf and we can't do that where we are outplayed but can still win
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 5:57 PM ET
We had tavares and barzal for a year and that was the most skill we have had in a loooonng time. If this team can still play good d and open it up a bit they will be ok especially if sorokin is locked in. I think palmeri will be better and Lee wasn't healthy to start last year imo. They should regress to the mean and score more, will it be enough idk
- Upstate_isles

Well it was barely enough when we were playing well. Won a ton of one goal games and most of our losses were the same. Kind of flying by the seat of your pants with a very small margin of error. I think a lot of our season is resting on one persons shoulders that we don’t talk a heck of a lot about on here and that’s Lambert. Will he be able to get out of this limited talent team what trotz was able too? Who knows?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 23 @ 5:59 PM ET
You have to acknowledge we were two goals away from the cup. We would’ve beat Montreal if we made it. We did that without high end talent albeit in a shortened season. Though I do agree that we’re going to need a lot to break for us to compete this season imo. I dont think anyone didn’t think we needed an upgrade to our top 6 including Lameriello. Just didn’t happen.
- Cptmjl


We did get very close for two years but we still fell short. The moral victories ended after the first Tampa loss. It’s a lot to ask for everything to break right again. More talent increases your chances.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 5:59 PM ET
2 goals away and yes we would have beaten Montreal but sadly we didn't. I think this team has to play 100% every game to win and its hard to do over 82 games. In the playoffs their style is perfect but in the regular season they can't take a night off and thays taxing. Rangers had a killer pp and goalie and rode that into the ecf and we can't do that where we are outplayed but can still win
- Upstate_isles

I don’t disagree. Believe me I’m not saying that we’re contenders by any means. We need a lot to break for us. We need the kids to step up, Sorokin to have a vezina season, and lambert to be a better coach then trotz
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 6:00 PM ET
We did get very close for two years but we still fell short. The moral victories ended after the first Tampa loss. It’s a lot to ask for everything to break right again. More talent increases your chances.
- ses111

Not disputing that. I 100% wanted an upgrade to our top 6. So did lameriello.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 23 @ 6:02 PM ET
Well it was barely enough when we were playing well. Won a ton of one goal games and most of our losses were the same. Kind of flying by the seat of your pants with a very small margin of error. I think a lot of our season is resting on one persons shoulders that we don’t talk a heck of a lot about on here and that’s Lambert. Will he be able to get out of this limited talent team what trotz was able too? Who knows?
- Cptmjl

I think the d syatem will stay as is and I think he will allow them to try and be creative in the o zone. Last year the isles got caught deep too many times in their own end and then had nothing on offense after that. Towes and leddy could skate it out when in their own end and we lost that with Chara and greene, Dobson can do it and pulock and pelech started to also late in the season. Thats a key to the offense is a good breakout
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Aug 23 @ 6:10 PM ET
Not complaining, but my concern is the regular season..and actually making the playoffs. The regular season allows for the higher skilled players to have more space and not be held up as much. They aren’t hit as frequently and the games are much less physical. Speed is critical in the regular season. Penalties are called much tighter, so faster teams do very well. Which is why the majority of the time the President cup winner doesn’t make it very far in the playoffs.

Our style of play is fit for the grind of the playoffs. We just need to make it. I think if we are close this year at the deadline Lou will make a move or two. Maybe sooner if we get off to a good start.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 23 @ 6:12 PM ET
2 goals away and yes we would have beaten Montreal but sadly we didn't. I think this team has to play 100% every game to win and its hard to do over 82 games. In the playoffs their style is perfect but in the regular season they can't take a night off and thays taxing. Rangers had a killer pp and goalie and rode that into the ecf and we can't do that where we are outplayed but can still win
- Upstate_isles


Islanders are an older team and the harder they need to work during a full regular season to make the playoffs, the less they may have in the tank during the playoffs. You need the easy type blowout regular season wins from time to time.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 23 @ 6:21 PM ET
Not complaining, but my concern is the regular season..and actually making the playoffs. The regular season allows for the higher skilled players to have more space and not be held up as much. They aren’t hit as frequently and the games are much less physical. Speed is critical in the regular season. Penalties are called much tighter, so faster teams do very well. Which is why the majority of the time the President cup winner doesn’t make it very far in the playoffs.

Our style of play is fit for the grind of the playoffs. We just need to make it. I think if we are close this year at the deadline Lou will make a move or two. Maybe sooner if we get off to a good start.

- streaks

[🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
Well it was barely enough when we were playing well. Won a ton of one goal games and most of our losses were the same. Kind of flying by the seat of your pants with a very small margin of error. I think a lot of our season is resting on one persons shoulders that we don’t talk a heck of a lot about on here and that’s Lambert. Will he be able to get out of this limited talent team what trotz was able too? Who knows?
- Cptmjl


That's because no one has any idea on how he will coach. There is almost no relevant history to even give us a clue.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
I think the d syatem will stay as is and I think he will allow them to try and be creative in the o zone. Last year the isles got caught deep too many times in their own end and then had nothing on offense after that. Towes and leddy could skate it out when in their own end and we lost that with Chara and greene, Dobson can do it and pulock and pelech started to also late in the season. Thats a key to the offense is a good breakout
- Upstate_isles

If Dobson takes a step forward and not back this season it’ll help a lot. I haven’t watched Romanov play enough to have an opinion of him really but his point totals suck. Everything I read about him is he transitions the puck well so hopefully he can help move the play forward. I also think lambert will push for more of an offensive game from Pulock for the reasons that you stated.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
That's because no one has any idea on how he will coach. There is almost no relevant history to even give us a clue.
- JimmyP

Well yeah of course other then thinking he’ll have a similar style to trotz with a bit more of an uptempo system. That’s all speculation for the reasons you stated. I was more referring to how important lambert is to the success of this team. We’re more focused on the players. Trotz was a huge reason for this teams past success. Will lambert be able to duplicate and or improve on that? Lots of unknowns this season…
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 6:41 PM ET
Not complaining, but my concern is the regular season..and actually making the playoffs. The regular season allows for the higher skilled players to have more space and not be held up as much. They aren’t hit as frequently and the games are much less physical. Speed is critical in the regular season. Penalties are called much tighter, so faster teams do very well. Which is why the majority of the time the President cup winner doesn’t make it very far in the playoffs.

Our style of play is fit for the grind of the playoffs. We just need to make it. I think if we are close this year at the deadline Lou will make a move or two. Maybe sooner if we get off to a good start.

- streaks

Famous last words


We don’t really have much to work with as far as assets are concerned unfortunately. I would hate to see next years first get traded.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Aug 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
Well yeah of course other then thinking he’ll have a similar style to trotz with a bit more of an uptempo system. That’s all speculation for the reasons you stated. I was more referring to how important lambert is to the success of this team. We’re more focused on the players. Trotz was a huge reason for this teams past success. Will lambert be able to duplicate and or improve on that? Lots of unknowns this season…
- Cptmjl


I think it's a tough ask for any rookie NHL coach. He knows the organization and the players, that's a plus. Also, I'm sure he and Lou had conversations before he took over.

We'll have to wait and see. Maybe he'll be the next Scotty Bowman.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Aug 23 @ 7:34 PM ET
If Dobson takes a step forward and not back this season it’ll help a lot. I haven’t watched Romanov play enough to have an opinion of him really but his point totals suck. Everything I read about him is he transitions the puck well so hopefully he can help move the play forward. I also think lambert will push for more of an offensive game from Pulock for the reasons that you stated.
- Cptmjl

Dobson started to get it last year like the game slowed down for him a bit so I think he will be good. All.my Habs buddies loved Romanov and said he was a stud. He did take off once st Louis took over and he's a physical guy so I have high hopes for him
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Aug 23 @ 7:58 PM ET
Not cranky at all but maybe one person was complaining about Lameriello’s inactivity during free agency. The rest was obvious jokes and sarcasm. You two have filled up multiple pages complaining about complaining. You’ve passed the point of complaining. Give it a rest already we get the point my god. I expect the continual ad nauseam from your partner who obviously doesn’t have much between the ears and a constant yearning for attention like a three year old girl. We get it you like everything Lameriello didn’t do. Wonderful. Go meet your buddy for a beer he’s desperate for friends and bring it to Twitter where people are still losing their minds and you can fight with them all day. You’ll have an actual audience to pledge your allegiance
- Cptmjl



Man someone needs to get laid!! I’m glad you have nothing better to do then write a whole narrative on complaining. Congrats!!

Oh and 😆😆😆😆
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 8:03 PM ET
Dobson started to get it last year like the game slowed down for him a bit so I think he will be good. All.my Habs buddies loved Romanov and said he was a stud. He did take off once st Louis took over and he's a physical guy so I have high hopes for him
- Upstate_isles

Looking forward to seeing him play. He’s young enough that he may expand on his game.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 8:03 PM ET
Man someone needs to get laid!! I’m glad you have nothing better to do then write a whole narrative on complaining. Congrats!!

Oh and 😆😆😆😆

- kasperrko



ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
I think the d syatem will stay as is and I think he will allow them to try and be creative in the o zone. Last year the isles got caught deep too many times in their own end and then had nothing on offense after that. Towes and leddy could skate it out when in their own end and we lost that with Chara and greene, Dobson can do it and pulock and pelech started to also late in the season. Thats a key to the offense is a good breakout
- Upstate_isles


We need Pulock to put some of the goal numbers Kevin Hatcher did back in the day.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM ET
We had tavares and barzal for a year and that was the most skill we have had in a loooonng time. If this team can still play good d and open it up a bit they will be ok especially if sorokin is locked in. I think palmeri will be better and Lee wasn't healthy to start last year imo. They should regress to the mean and score more, will it be enough idk
- Upstate_isles


When we did have JT and Barzal we were a defensive mess and weren’t even close to the PO’s.
Agreed, I think they all have something to prove and hopefully they come out and play like it.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 8:57 PM ET
We need Pulock to put some of the goal numbers Kevin Hatcher did back in the day.

- ses111

He needs to put up some more points this season. I guess you could say that about everyone.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM ET
He needs to put up some more points this season. I guess you could say that about everyone.
- Cptmjl


Defense has to be more involved in the offense like other teams do. More plays with Pulock coming late and the forwards feeding him the puck. Cannot just use the 3 forwards for offense.
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