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Mitchellbrazeau
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 06.25.2013

Aug 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Nick Robertson
1st Round Pick
One of Holmberg, Ambruzzese or Steeves
Jake Muzzin

For

Patrick Kane (50% retained)

Kane gives them the extra piece in the top 6 they need this year. Chicago takes the final two years of Muzzin (only 4 million real salary vs. a $5.6 cap hit) to make the cap work for the Leafs and get a couple decent prospects and a 1st round pick to do it.

Moving Muzzin makes room for Sandin who is without a spot right now.

While also making the Blackhawks roster worse and helping them bottom out for Bedard.

- MrBen


Nick Robertson Is a bum , not worth the medical expenses might balance with Kanes salary , Chicago would still need to fork out 10 mil to keep Robertson healthy
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 23 @ 11:33 AM ET
Patrick Kane to the leafs

Willie Nylander Justin Holl and Rasmus Sandin

- Mitchellbrazeau

Whoa.
That's way too much.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
Kadri
Komi
And a 3rd
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Aug 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
Patrick Kane to the leafs

Willie Nylander Justin Holl and Rasmus Sandin

- Mitchellbrazeau


Why don’t you throw in Marner too
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Aug 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
The Rangers have cap space to accommodate a guy like Kane? Or is Bettman gonna fix that like he fixed two straight lottery drawings so the Rags would win
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Aug 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
No way, we need at least a 1st round pick for DP's buyout payments
- eichiefs9

jsrstl1
Season Ticket Holder
St Louis Blues
Location: New Braumfels, TX
Joined: 01.08.2022

Aug 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Here is what's going to happen mid-September :
Blackhawks send Kane to the Avalanche (retain 50% of course)
Avalanche send J. T. Compher and a 2023 1st rd plus Martin Kaut

Compher bring the Hawks a 2nd or 3rd in mid season trade.

Thats what is going to happen ..........................
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Aug 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
Avs trade Girard for a futures return(and cap space), then offer a 1st from the Girard trade, Annunen, Olausson, and Compher, for Kane @ 50%. Leaves some cap room for a 2C.
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

Aug 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
Nashville:
Kane

Chicago:
Eeli Tolvanen
2023 2nd
2024 1st
Chicago retains 7million

*** if Nashville goes to final in 2022-23 season and Kane plays 75% of playoff games, 2023 pick becomes a first

- MrPerfect316




Chicago retains 7mill?
Philly fan not knowing anything about salary retention

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
Sabres get:
Patrick Kane full salary

Blackhawks get:
2nd round pick (becomes 1st round pick if Kane signs an extension)

That's it. Take all that salary on is a big deal. Allows Chicago to make trades with cap strapped teams for even more assets.

- coohill


Pull it back a round.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 1:03 PM ET
Why don’t you throw in Marner too
- .HOHO.


I'm a huge fan of Kadri/Gardner (1.0) becoming Nylander/Holl (2.0)
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Aug 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
Philly offers JVR + Ghost. That almost landed them Gaudreau, but should easily get 2 months of Kane. Will also include Anton Khudobin as a sign and trade.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 1:05 PM ET
The Rangers have cap space to accommodate a guy like Kane? Or is Bettman gonna fix that like he fixed two straight lottery drawings so the Rags would win
- BringNYIhome


well ya know at least the rags draft crappy players at the top of the draft instead of good ones.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 1:06 PM ET
Philly offers JVR + Ghost. That almost landed them Gaudreau, but should easily get 2 months of Kane. Will also include Anton Khudobin as a sign and trade.
- Cooleus


JVR plays for the Coyotes
Dahlmanyotes
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 06.15.2015

Aug 23 @ 1:10 PM ET
It’s gotta be a team with their window wide open to closing…because if you’re window is just opening then wait to sign him for free next year. In canvassing those types of teams, I would go with Colorado making the best pitch.

- Colorado offers: Girard, 2023 1st Rounder, 2024 1st rounder

- Chicago offers: Kane with 50% salary retained
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
JVR plays for the Coyotes
- TheSabresTaco


No, Ghost does. Did you hack Blue Taco?

Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Aug 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
JVR plays for the Coyotes
- TheSabresTaco


JVR plays for the Coyotes? Sounds like a Buzztron roster.
wbwiggy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: OH
Joined: 12.23.2006

Aug 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
Sabres get:
Patrick Kane full salary

Blackhawks get:
2nd round pick (becomes 1st round pick if Kane signs an extension)

That's it. Take all that salary on is a big deal. Allows Chicago to make trades with cap strapped teams for even more assets.

- coohill


Done!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 23 @ 1:31 PM ET
$0.20
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
Kadri
Komi
And a 3rd

- glove_was_stuck


Seems like a deal to me.
Mitchellbrazeau
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 06.25.2013

Aug 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Why don’t you throw in Marner too
- .HOHO.


Nylander’s on his way out we all know that Justin Hall is garbage you can’t pay a guy 3 million to play 11 minutes a night and get no points and be a minus Sandin is the actual chip in the trade ……. He wants 4.25 mill for 2 years…. And Willy like I said he’s on his way out man !!
FoppaForever
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 11.13.2018

Aug 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
People never seem to learn from the past so we get all these ridiculous returns like Karlsson, Hall and Giroux were supposed to get - like Chicago is going to get Nylander plus for a year of Kane. Here's another clue - if the Avs didn't trade Girard to sign Kadri long term they're not trading Girard for a year of Kane.

Here's the kind of trade that could happen:

1) Kane to AZ for future considerations, Chicago retains 50% (5.25 million, the max they can retain).
2) Avs 2024 1st, 2025 2nd and 2025 3rd plus Mikhail Maltsev (look up his AHL numbers for last season) to AZ for Kane. AZ retains another 50% (2.625 million)
3) AZ sends the 1st, 3rd and Maltsev to Chicago to complete the deal, keeps the 2nd for the salary retention.

Avs get Kane at 2.625, Hawks get 1st, 3rd and Maltsev, AZ gets a 2nd. Avs are still 1.3 million under the Cap so they can call someone up in case of an injury.

I probably wouldn't do this deal because I think the Avs have enough and worry about continually giving up picks but acoording to Friedman Sakic has called two years in a row abouit Kane so they're definitely interested and this is about as much as McFarland/Sakic will give, maybe a little more. This is the kind of deal that happens in the real world.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
People never seem to learn from the past so we get all these ridiculous returns like Karlsson, Hall and Giroux were supposed to get - like Chicago is going to get Nylander plus for a year of Kane. Here's another clue - if the Avs didn't trade Girard to sign Kadri long term they're not trading Girard for a year of Kane.

Here's the kind of trade that could happen:

1) Kane to AZ for future considerations, Chicago retains 50% (5.25 million, the max they can retain).
2) Avs 2024 1st, 2025 2nd and 2025 3rd plus Mikhail Maltsev (look up his AHL numbers for last season) to AZ for Kane. AZ retains another 50% (2.625 million)
3) AZ sends the 1st, 3rd and Maltsev to Chicago to complete the deal, keeps the 2nd for the salary retention.

Avs get Kane at 2.625, Hawks get 1st, 3rd and Maltsev, AZ gets a 2nd. Avs are still
1.3 million under the Cap so they can call someone up in case of an injury.

I probably wouldn't do this deal because I think the Avs have enough and worry about continually giving up picks but acoording to Friedman Sakic has called two years in a row abouit Kane so they're definitely interested and this is about as much as McFarland/Sakic will give, maybe a little more. This is the kind of deal that happens in the real world.

- FoppaForever


So AZ facilitates cap space for everyone and retains 2.625 mil for a 2025 2nd. I’d want more.

FoppaForever
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 11.13.2018

Aug 23 @ 2:01 PM ET
So AZ facilitates cap space for everyone and retains 2.625 mil for a 2025 2nd. I’d want more.
- Minnyhock


Kane's contract is structured so that he's owed 4 million in a bonus and 2.9 million in salary this season (even though he counts for 10.5 AAV, his deal was heavily front loaded) and Chicago has already paid the bonus. So they'd be taking a 2nd for assuming $725k in cash. I think they'd do that.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/patrick-kane
Brock Davies
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 08.24.2021

Aug 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
Patrick Kane 50% retained to the New York Rangers for Kappo Kakko
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