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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
I'd sue her creepy lawyer, he went on a social witch hunt thursday and friday
- homiedclown


I see this going one of two ways:

This gets settled and the criminal investigation goes away or he ends up getting charged.


Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
let's say he never gets charged criminally and he wins the civil lawsuit

who does he sue for lost wages?

the bills?
her?
her lawyer?


if he is not guilty someone cost him some money

- homiedclown


The girl and lawyer 100%. All the tweets the lawyer posted could be used for his case

Defamation.

That whole story is still weird.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 28 @ 12:45 PM ET
I see this going one of two ways:

This gets settled and the criminal investigation goes away or he ends up getting charged.

- Stripes77


The girls needs to get her story straight.

Bragging you are an 18 year old college student and then a consented to hook up on the side of the house.

The excuse “I never met him before”. Yeah, it’s a random drunkin hook up. Welcome to college life

Then bedroom wise. It’s a big party. Witnesses could easily know or not know if ariza was in there

The girl had a hazy memory of what actually happened

Ariza could easily win the case
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
The girls needs to get her story straight.

Bragging you are an 18 year old college student and then a consented to hook up on the side of the house.

The excuse “I never met him before”. Yeah, it’s a random drunkin hook up. Welcome to college life

Then bedroom wise. It’s a big party. Witnesses could easily know or not know if ariza was in there

The girl had a hazy memory of what actually happened

Ariza could easily win the case

- Sabretooth9



First, in the laws eyes you can't consent when you're drunk. She went to the police the next morning.

Second, a toxicology report can explain why her memory is hazy.


BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
First, in the laws eyes you can't consent when you're drunk. She went to the police the next morning.

Second, a toxicology report can explain why her memory is hazy.

- Stripes77

So what you are telling me is that any drunk sex is rape. Nice. Great society we’ve built here.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 28 @ 12:59 PM ET
First, in the laws eyes you can't consent when you're drunk. She went to the police the next morning.

Second, a toxicology report can explain why her memory is hazy.

- Stripes77


How you gone to a college party somewhat recently?

Drunkin sex happens all the time
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
So what you are telling me is that any drunk sex is rape. Nice. Great society we’ve built here.
- BeadyEyedDouche


https://www.brickdonlaw.c...drunk-to-consent-to-sex-/

What happens if a drunk person gives their consent despite being physically and/or mentally incapacitated temporarily? New Jersey Revised Statutes section 2C:2-10 answers this question.

Under the law, ineffective consent means a person cannot legally give consent if:

They are legally incompetent to authorize sexual activity
They are a person who, because of youth, mental disease or defect, or intoxication, is unable or known to be unable to make a reasonable judgment about the sexual activity
Such activity is induced by force, duress or deception of a kind


Welcome to law 101

There's reasons there are laws like this in place, and it's not because two people got drunk one night and had sex.



Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:04 PM ET
How you gone to a college party somewhat recently?
- Sabretooth9


I am 38 years old, so no I haven't gone to a college party in the last 15 plus years years.

However, I am also smart enough to know this isn't a situation where two drunk people hooked up...




Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
I am 38 years old, so no I haven't gone to a college party in the last 15 plus years years.

However, I am also smart enough to know this isn't a situation where two drunk people hooked up...

- Stripes77


Part of it is a drunkin hook up. The side of the house part definitely was. She consented to that.

The bedroom part is the mystery hazy part
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
The Buffalo Bills are not the law people need to get that straight they could give two poops about innocent until proven guilty. The main goal of the Buffalo Bills is to make money they are a business Araiza being on the team hurts that just like if it was me or you or anybody else in this position if the company found that having us employed hurt their bottom line we would be fired


The bills were in a lose lose lose scenario and it sounds like according to both McDermott and Bean Ariza did not tell them the whole story.

Cut him now take your lumps focus on football

- ImThatGuy

This is the important part that people who are defending this kid aren’t understanding
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 1:57 PM ET
This is the important part that people who are defending this kid aren’t understanding
- sbroads24

This is assuming that the rumor his story has changed is true

And probably assuming he was in the bedroom when it went down


I would hope the kid didn't get cut because a lawyer took to twitter in an attempt to extort him from money

All of this within 48 hours of haack getting cut and a lawyer probably trying to reach out to the bills for a quick payday

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
There isn't/wasn't a case opened against him at that time though.

It's an investigation, and until he is formally charged nothing would show up.

It happens all the time, for example a coach is under investigation for abusing a kid but does his background check before he is charged, nothing shows up on his background check at that time.

- Stripes77

There was a case open the day after, damn there's reports out there from 3 days after about other student athletes reporting the incident to the Athletics Office. Whatever it's over, I really hope it didn't happen for everyone's sake.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
This is assuming that the rumor his story has changed is true

And probably assuming he was in the bedroom when it went down


I would hope the kid didn't get cut because a lawyer took to twitter in an attempt to extort him from money

All of this within 48 hours of haack getting cut and a lawyer probably trying to reach out to the bills for a quick payday

- homiedclown


Agreed. The girls lawyer has provided some low blows.

The funny part about money is that he hasn’t even gotten paid yet. Players don’t get paid for preseason. So he doesn’t even have any money

If Ariza is actually innocent. He can easily go after the lawyer and the girl.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
There was a case open the day after, damn there's reports out there from 3 days after about other student athletes reporting the incident to the Athletics Office. Whatever it's over, I really hope it didn't happen for everyone's sake.
- Buff36


There was an investigation not a case against him

Two big differences

If the rumors are true that the school and the athletic department shut it down 3 days later and it was buried how would it show up anywhere?

dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
Great F1 race at Spa
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 28 @ 3:20 PM ET
Agreed. The girls lawyer has provided some low blows.

The funny part about money is that he hasn’t even gotten paid yet. Players don’t get paid for preseason. So he doesn’t even have any money

If Ariza is actually innocent. He can easily go after the lawyer and the girl.

- Sabretooth9

Florio wrote he retains $216,000 signing bonus, but loses all of his $700,000 salary.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 28 @ 3:32 PM ET
This is the important part that people who are defending this kid aren’t understanding
- sbroads24


That's on the Bills; why would they believe he told them everything?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
Well if they expect to draft someone I would think they have the capability to do a Criminal Background Check on these guys. So if they really did look at him it wouldn't have been hard to find there was a open case file on him.
- Buff36


Is this true for investigation only stage, vs the next step when criminal charges have been filed?
No CRIMINAL charges have been filed, right? The Investigative Report was just given to the DA's office within the last few days.
Only Civil charges have been made, filed Thursday. Is that the "new information" Beene and McDermott have alluded to?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 28 @ 4:50 PM ET
Florio wrote he retains $216,000 signing bonus, but loses all of his $700,000 salary.
- Hatboro_Swords


Ahh I didn’t know this. Okay good to know
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 28 @ 5:17 PM ET
Is this true for investigation only stage, vs the next step when criminal charges have been filed?
No CRIMINAL charges have been filed, right? The Investigative Report was just given to the DA's office within the last few days.
Only Civil charges have been made, filed Thursday. Is that the "new information" Beene and McDermott have alluded to?

- IonSabres

You don't hire a Criminal Law Attorney if you don't know there's a investigation going on.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 28 @ 5:27 PM ET
What a great Tour Championship. LIV Golf though…. Ennnnnnnnnt. Nice try. USFL of Golf.

Score another one for the 3ER. WOOOOOOOO!
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
What a great Tour Championship. LIV Golf though…. Ennnnnnnnnt. Nice try. USFL of Golf.

Score another one for the 3ER. WOOOOOOOO!

- Hatboro_Swords


Are they on TV?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 28 @ 6:03 PM ET
Continue to puff you chest out that as of NOW, he's been run out of town by the media and fan's overreaction to a narrative heard from just one side.
You obviously dont agree with Due Process, facts, and innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
It is a great side you are on, until it turns against you, then you'll be yelling and screaming.
Let it play out. No harm, no foul.

- IonSabres


You are having a difficult time understanding that having him on the Bill's for an extra minute was causing harm.
And it was very foul having OUR buffalo bills involved with this guy. Keep the women of buffalo safer ☝️

So yes harm and yes foul.

I'm not putting myself in a position for "it to turn against me" and be "yelling and screaming "
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 28 @ 6:29 PM ET
You are having a difficult time understanding that having him on the Bill's for an extra minute was causing harm.
And it was very foul having OUR buffalo bills involved with this guy. Keep the women of buffalo safer ☝️

So yes harm and yes foul.

I'm not putting myself in a position for "it to turn against me" and be "yelling and screaming "

- Boss34


Feel better, lol.
Have a good day.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 7:32 PM ET
Keep the women of buffalo safer ☝️

"

- Boss34




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