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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
Last I heard, they were still exploring different scenarios with the player.

He'll be signed by the beginning of camp.

- Scabeh


Let me know if and when I need to panick.

Thanks.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
Let me know if and when I need to panick.

Thanks.

- deadpoulet


Will do good sir.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:25 AM ET
The issue last year was Allen ended up playing too many games in a row... then got injured as a result. Then Monty ended up playing too many games in a row, cause we had no one else. Same poop happened.

If they can split that time, use goaltenders properly, then I think they can provide league average goaltending... and on most night, not be the reason the Habs lose.

- Mashadar

they should split the net 50-50, win or lose. Allen plays one, Montembeaut plays one.. pas de chicane.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
Did you guys see that story about Totorella walking into the Lightning dressing room and trying to fight Lecavalier?
- BINGO!



yeah, apparently he wasn't planning on actually fighting him, but it was part of certain tactics he used as coach to get his players going or some poop..?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
they should split the net 50-50, win or lose. Allen plays one, Montembeaut plays one.. pas de chicane.
- fidopro


And hope Allen stays healthy so we can trade him during the year.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
they should split the net 50-50, win or lose. Allen plays one, Montembeaut plays one.. pas de chicane.
- fidopro


Can I play one?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:28 AM ET
And hope Allen stays healthy so we can trade him during the year.

- Scabeh



and call Primeau up..?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:30 AM ET
and call Primeau up..?
- Pat1993


After he played pretty much the whole season in the AHL, sure, he can finish the season with Samuel.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:31 AM ET
and call Primeau up..?
- Pat1993


Why not?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
And hope Allen stays healthy so we can trade him during the year.

- Scabeh

same with Drouin, Dandonov, Byron, Armia and Hoffman.

Hoffman will have one year left at the TDL on his deal, retain a % and trade him then, 1 year impact only. Drouin, Dandonov and Byron are all UFA next summer. Armia is signed until the summer of 2025 with a cap hit of 3.4M.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
After he played pretty much the whole season in the AHL, sure, he can finish the season with Samuel.
- Scabeh


yeah, I've never been sold on this idea of trading Allen at this point, a rotation between him and Primeau would make a lot more sense imho, instead of having 2 young unexperienced goalies.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
yeah, I've never been sold on this idea of trading Allen at this point, a rotation between him and Primeau would make a lot more sense imho, instead of having 2 young unexperienced goalies.
- Pat1993

let Primeau excel at the AHL level until the TDL, up to Montambeault to carry the load with Allen until then. Bring an experienced NHL starter next summer.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
Why not?
- deadpoulet


a Primeau/Montembeault tandem sounds horrible. I just don't get the whole trading Allen thing, it isn't like the return would necessarily be out of this world either... oh well lol
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:36 AM ET
a Primeau/Montembeault tandem sounds horrible. I just don't get the whole trading Allen thing, it isn't like the return would necessarily be out of this world either... oh well lol
- Pat1993

We are talking about less than 2 months with the young netminders (March and April 2023)
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
a Primeau/Montembeault tandem sounds horrible. I just don't get the whole trading Allen thing, it isn't like the return would necessarily be out of this world either... oh well lol
- Pat1993


Well he's a reliable goaltender on a cheap contract. There's value in that

I'm sure Vegas would be quite happy to add him right now.


Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
yeah, I've never been sold on this idea of trading Allen at this point, a rotation between him and Primeau would make a lot more sense imho, instead of having 2 young unexperienced goalies.
- Pat1993


I agree.

The return would be minimal and Allen is on a team friendly contract.

So unless a team is so desperate they are throwing a 1st round pick to the Habs, I am not sure he gets traded.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:38 AM ET
let Primeau excel at the AHL level until the TDL, up to Montambeault to carry the load with Allen until then. Bring an experienced NHL starter next summer.
- Symba007


just keep Allen, it's much simpler lol
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:38 AM ET
yeah, apparently he wasn't planning on actually fighting him, but it was part of certain tactics he used as coach to get his players going or some poop..?
- Pat1993


Vinny should have dropped him.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:38 AM ET
a Primeau/Montembeault tandem sounds horrible. I just don't get the whole trading Allen thing, it isn't like the return would necessarily be out of this world either... oh well lol
- Pat1993


I don't expect a huge return either, but he will be a UFA next summer. He may not even want to be here anymore.

And at some point, Primeau will get a shot at the NHL.

If they need another vet to replace Allen, I'm pretty sure they can find one next summer.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:39 AM ET
just keep Allen, it's much simpler lol
- Pat1993

he is UFA next summer, who says he is not coming back. I say trade him at the TDL, if he is available next summer and they can agree on a contract, why not.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:39 AM ET
Vinny should have dropped him.
- BINGO!


perhaps he had some teammates holding him back, pretty sure he would've made Torts regret provoking him lol
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:42 AM ET
so what if Allen is UFA, he seems to be happy as a hab, they could easily re-sign him.

anyway I'm tired of the Allen debate lol, I wouldn't trade him, but I trust the new management team will be taking the right decisions for the team.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:43 AM ET
I don't expect a huge return either, but he will be a UFA next summer. He may not even want to be here anymore.

And at some point, Primeau will get a shot at the NHL.

If they need another vet to replace Allen, I'm pretty sure they can find one next summer.

- deadpoulet




again, why not just keep Allen if you can lol. it's how I see it anyway.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:46 AM ET
again, why not just keep Allen if you can lol. it's how I see it anyway.
- Pat1993


It's a fair point Pat but we know Allen ain't our goaltender of the future.

Let's say we can get a 2nd rounder or better for Allen and then we sign a veteran goaltender to next year.

Vet goalie + 2nd round pick or Jake Allen?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 29 @ 11:46 AM ET
so what if Allen is UFA, he seems to be happy as a hab, they could easily re-sign him.

anyway I'm tired of the Allen debate lol, I wouldn't trade him, but I trust the new management team will be taking the right decisions for the team.

- Pat1993

options are

If vegas really wants him now, they better make an offer that HuGo can't refuse. I don't see that happening.

Trade him by the TDL, if he is having a decent season and stays healthy, might be able to get a close to a 2nd round pick. Is it worth it, not sure but if the offers are for a 2nd round pick...I do it.

Or extend him sooner than later not to lose him next summer.
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