Any odds on which Flyer prospect(s) suffer the first season ending injury during the first Flyers/Rangers rookie game?
- daddytc

I'm excited to see Foerster after the world juniors, so....yeah probably.

Popped in to see if there was any really good convo taking place...Stayed for the Team Negative stuff.

How the hell has everyone been?>
- opeth_pa

It’s all good. Still above ground. How’s a fellow positive human being?

Talk about beating a dead horse. This guy has admitted he was wrong on numerus occasions. Yet you keep asking him the same question week after week.

Move on already.
- furio16

thank you!

thank you!
- jd250

You haven't once done that and are still acting like you have the pulse of the team.

All I want to do is look for contradiction? You do it constantly. Refuse to look inside and admit how wrong you've been about pretty much everything. You want to pretend that doesn't exist and offer your newest "expert" opinion. You joined the end of a very, very long line of people who were there before you and now you want credit as if you formed the line.

You still don't realize that the moves in 21 were band aids. That wouldn't stick. I knew it then and told you so. You disagreed with me 1,00000%. LOL
- MJL

I do not contradict myself constantly, that is an asinine statement! There is a difference between facing the reality of the situation in the moment and determining what should be done versus changing your mind when the situation has not changed. In the 20' off season, the Flyers were coming off a great season, coming 1 game away from the final 4. I did not feel many changes were needed in the off-season, and apparently so did Fletcher, so I was satisfied with the off-season. In 21' the Flyers were coming off a disastrous season, Covid or not, and I felt changes needed to be made to fill obvious holes. Apparently Fletcher did as well, and given his two previous off-seasons in 19' and 20', I was happy with the moves he made. Getting Ryan Ellis was NOT a band-aid, and you are foolish if you even want to come on this forum and try to state that! Getting Risto was NOT a band-aid. Getting a good backup in Martin Jones was NOT a band-aid! Signing Hayes in 2019 to 7 years was NOT a band-aid! Trading Jake for Cam was NOT a band-aid! Signing Keith Yandle to a 1 year deal to QB the power-play IS by definition a band-aid to fill the hole left by Ghost.

Its not about being wrong. At the time I was in favor of the moves and I still am. BUT NOW, TODAY, the situation has changed. The team is coming off an even worse season than in 21'. Giroux is gone. Risto turned out to be not so good in his first season. Ellis is hurt and might not play again. Couturier has had back surgery. Hayes has had 3 core surgeries. Farabee just had neck surgery. Provorov is a mess. Konecny, Sanheim, Frost and several young players coming up in the system are all meh! Thus IMO a new plan needs to be put in place, one that involves taking advantage of a deep 2023 draft to get multiple players that will significantly upgrade the talent in the Flyers system. A plan that looks at the team 3 years from now, not this coming season. Fletcher has acted differently and thus I am no longer in his corner, its really that simple!

If you, or anyone on this forum, cannot understand this, I really don't know what else to say except your hopelessly grasping at straws and more importantly, you don't have a clue to what you are talking about.

You haven't once done that and are still acting like you have the pulse of the team.
- MJL

You seem angry .. and I really don't understand why. I think you are mad because you now agree with my take on the team, and that just pisses you off. I'm sorry if we feel the same way about the present team and GM, life happens sometimes.

I'm excited to see Foerster after the world juniors, so....yeah probably.
- Glak18

If he makes the team out of camp, I will be excited to watch him and root for him. Its these types of happenstances that make a season fun to watch, even if the team overall sucks.

I do not contradict myself constantly, that is an asinine statement! There is a difference between facing the reality of the situation in the moment and determining what should be done versus changing your mind when the situation has not changed. In the 20' off season, the Flyers were coming off a great season, coming 1 game away from the final 4. I did not feel many changes were needed in the off-season, and apparently so did Fletcher, so I was satisfied with the off-season. In 21' the Flyers were coming off a disastrous season, Covid or not, and I felt changes needed to be made to fill obvious holes. Apparently Fletcher did as well, and given his two previous off-seasons in 19' and 20', I was happy with the moves he made. Getting Ryan Ellis was NOT a band-aid, and you are foolish if you even want to come on this forum and try to state that! Getting Risto was NOT a band-aid. Getting a good backup in Martin Jones was NOT a band-aid! Signing Hayhes was NOT a band-aid! Trading Jake for Cam was NOT a band-aid! Signing Keith Yandle to a 1 year deal to QB the power-play IS by definition a band-aid to fill the hole left by Ghost.


- jd250

Here is another contradiction. One after the other. In another post, you're thanking another poster and insinuating that you have admitted that you were wrong. Now the very next post you make, you're doubling down on the same opinions that you had that have been proven to be wrong. Yes, all of those moves are band aids. All of them. They're not moves that made them a legit Cup contender. They're just moves to try and fill holes as you often state. That's a band aid. No matter what you think of the individual players. It was the wrong choices and the wrong direction to take. Trying to patch the team and trying to trade and spend their way to contention. Even the best of GM's in the league would have difficulty accomplishing that. A clown like Fletcher has no chance. You still don't get it.

Its not about being wrong. At the time I was in favor of the moves and I still am. BUT NOW, TODAY, the situation has changed. The team is coming off an even worse season than in 21'. Giroux is gone. Risto turned out to be not so good in his first season. Ellis is hurt and might not play again. Couturier has had back surgery. Hayes has had 3 core surgeries. Farabee just had neck surgery. Provorov is a mess. Konecny, Sanheim, Frost and several young players coming up in the system are all meh! Thus IMO a new plan needs to be put in place, one that involves taking advantage of a deep 2023 draft to get multiple players that will significantly upgrade the talent in the Flyers system. A plant that looks at the team 3 years from now, not this coming season.


- jd250

Of course it's about being wrong. It's all you ever been. Including now stating that Sanheim and Konecny are meh! Shows more of a lack of knowledge that is present in every post you make. The plan that you now advocate for is the plan that the Flyers should've been using all along. Which I told you they should be years ago. Literally. You told me I was wrong.

If you, or anyone on this forum, cannot understand this, I really don't know what else to say except your hopelessly grasping at straws and more importantly, you don't have a clue to what you are talking about.
- jd250

Now here you are telling someone else they don't have a clue to what they're talking about. Talk about delusional fantasy.

Here is the equivalent of your flip flopping.

You the equivalent of a passenger on the Titanic who when the ship was sinking and everyone was manning the life boats to get off. You were saying the ship is not sinking and you have trust in the captain. Then at the very end, when the entire ship except for the end of bow is under water, you "scream the boat is sinking". Then you claim superiority and ask how anyone can't understand that the ship is sinking and someone who told you it was sinking, is now grasping at straws and doesn't have a clue. Your lack of self awareness is astonishing.

You seem angry .. and I really don't understand why. I think you are mad because you now agree with my take on the team, and that just pisses you off. I'm sorry if we feel the same way about the present team and GM, life happens sometimes.
- jd250

I now agree with your take on the team? LMAO I've been telling you this for 3 years while you've been telling me I was wrong. Pisses me off? Hardly. It's absolutely hysterical. You don't have a take. You've never had one. Not one that was ever right. It's just at the point now where you have no choice but to get in line. The very end of the line. Last one off the ship. You trying to state that I now agree with you is shameful and shows no awareness whatsoever and no indication that you realize how wrong you've been.

If he makes the team out of camp, I will be excited to watch him and root for him. Its these types of happenstances that make a season fun to watch, even if the team overall sucks.
- jd250

He has no chance of making the team out of camp.

plan is to have Ellis return at the TDL, right after they trade JVR
- wcorvette

Who said that? Or was it a ironic approach 😆

Whatever happened to the we need to acquire talent under 25 model the GM spoke about previously?

This is how irrelevant the Flyers have become. Eagles ready to start. Phil's in the playoff mix. Sixers contenders.

Flyers want the Broad Street Bullies formula in 2022.
- furio16

And yet the Sillies don't draw flies. But of course they will get a wild card spot and fill their stadium while their fake fan base calls themselves the best baseball fans in the land. Clowns! FIRE CHUCK!

I now agree with your take on the team? LMAO I've been telling you this for 3 years while you've been telling me I was wrong. Pisses me off? Hardly. It's absolutely hysterical. You don't have a take. You've never had one. Not one that was ever right. It's just at the point now where you have no choice but to get in line. The very end of the line. Last one off the ship. You trying to state that I now agree with you is shameful and shows no awareness whatsoever and no indication that you realize how wrong you've been.
- MJL

Kind of like you finally admitting that Hextall really was a below average GM as much as that pains you to admit.

Kind of like you finally admitting that Hextall really was a below average GM as much as that pains you to admit.
- Phillywhiteout

That must be fantasy on your part. You must of dreamed that.


You forgot to thank me.

Any odds on which Flyer prospect(s) suffer the first season ending injury during the first Flyers/Rangers rookie game?
- daddytc

Comon we all know its going to be Wade Allison. Even if he doesn't play in the game.

And yet the Sillies don't draw flies. But of course they will get a wild card spot and fill their stadium while their fake fan base calls themselves the best baseball fans in the land. Clowns! FIRE CHUCK!
- Phillywhiteout

Their TV ratings are exceptional you clueless jackass

If he makes the team out of camp, I will be excited to watch him and root for him. Its these types of happenstances that make a season fun to watch, even if the team overall sucks.
- jd250

Agreed! Watching the kids blossom in the NHL is always exciting. Maybe one of the few highlights this season...if it happens

He has no chance of making the team out of camp.
- MJL

Absolutely no chance but he could be a call up when the flyers luck goes into effect. I'd rather them develop while torts is here, imo. He has a track record and resource and examples of how the kids develop under his tool age. This franchise needs torts right now

Who said that? Or was it a ironic approach 😆
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Stash ellis on LTIR
Beat teams senseless with piss poor talent
dump jvr for the first overall pick
plug ellis into top d-pair AND top 6 forward grouping

PROFIT

If he makes the team out of camp, I will be excited to watch him and root for him. Its these types of happenstances that make a season fun to watch, even if the team overall sucks.
- jd250

Who do you see him replacing in the top 6/9? A "skill" player does not need to toil on the fourth line, unless you think, like management thinks, they need to learn how to play "flyer hockey"

Nils Lundkvist requests a trade. Unfortunately do not see a match for what the Rangers may want back as part of the return.

Whatever happened to the we need to acquire talent under 25 model the GM spoke about previously?
- furio16

He was to busy signing 31 year old 4th liners to 4 year one way contracts.

Whatever happened to the we need to acquire talent under 25 model the GM spoke about previously?
- furio16

the 250 guy's head exploded reading this -- he will no longer comment on matters concerning this matter

(sarcasm for the people who can not follow along, jd250 included)

He was to busy signing 31 year old 4th liners to 4 year one way contracts.
- Flyers_01

Gotta protect the frosts, foresters, and brinks of the world, now don't we?