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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
One comment on the Anderson assertion in the blog. Half, and I do mean half, the reason he's even here is for hashtag vibes. I don't see a scenario where he spends most of his time in the pressbox.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Going to a neighbour's backyard, so I'm not responsible for the main.

Going to make some shotgun shells - just need to hit Costco shortly.

Going to stuff it with bison - so we all have the spirit of the buffalo within us.

May also do a smoked cream cheese - just for poops and giggles.

- Atomic Wedgie

That sounds good
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
What did the chl do to have that much power.
- IndianaSabresFan


The best junior talent in North America has been going there for decades. To put it simply, very simply, the Grow The Game feature is basically why. They have power in both viewership and talent. And in order to let the players out of their 'contracts' sooner than their max allotted time in the CHL, the NHL has to play ball.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 10:58 AM ET
People also complain about losing the rights of NCAA kids after 4 years, but in reality that goes for every single league (outside of CHL) in the world except the KHL.

I'm still waiting for major lottery hit Artyom Kryukov to sign his ELC.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
The best junior talent in North America has been going there for decades. To put it simply, very simply, the Grow The Game feature is basically why. They have power in both viewership and talent. And in order to let the players out of their 'contracts' sooner than their max allotted time in the CHL, the NHL has to play ball.
- TheSabresTaco



At 18, if offered a professional contract offer from a European league the CHL has grounds to stop the player from gaining employment?

How is that legal/possible?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 11:01 AM ET
At 18, if offered a professional contract offer from a European league the CHL has grounds to stop the player from gaining employment?

How is that legal/possible?

- washedup20


Because the team owns you. Once you start playing for them.

I won't say it's never happened but I can't think of a time where a CHL contract was terminated in order to transfer to a European league.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
Because the team owns you. Once you start playing for them.

I won't say it's never happened but I can't think of a time where a CHL contract was terminated in order to transfer to a European league.

- TheSabresTaco

Every league has there set of rules on drafted players. We just no more about it because of what has happened lately with players not signing.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 11:06 AM ET
There's another rule where if you're brought in by the CHL import draft (Alex Nylander), you can play for your CHL team and once drafted by an NHL team, you can go anywhere that NHL team deems fit.

This would go for Jiri Kulich, drafted 3rd OA to Cape Breton. But it sounds like that would be his third option behind Rochester and CZE.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
One comment on the Anderson assertion in the blog. Half, and I do mean half, the reason he's even here is for hashtag vibes. I don't see a scenario where he spends most of his time in the pressbox.
- TheSabresTaco


.915 vibes > .889 vibes

If UPL is demonstrably better, he's gotta play. No Peterman vibes allowed
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 11:09 AM ET
Every league has there set of rules on drafted players. We just no more about it because of what has happened lately with players not signing.
- Buff36


Nuances perhaps, but every league out of Europe essentially has a 4 year timer, and once that player is contractually free, may join the NHL org. Sometimes contract terminations occur but it's uncommon. The best players, high first round talents, are probably only signing 1-2 year deals when they're 17 in Europe.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 11:11 AM ET
.915 vibes > .889 vibes

If UPL is demonstrably better, he's gotta play. No Peterman vibes allowed

- Hank Balling


Like I've always said with you about the goalie circus here, I agree with you on merit. But like you also said, if he's not consistently, demonstrably better.. you can bet your car on Craig being in that locker room for a vast majority of the season when healthy.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 11:15 AM ET
This is my assertion, but I think there's a different attitude from Europeans than NCAA players, rather North Americans. Europeans ditching their drafted teams to become free agents is almost non existent. Perhaps they have a sense of duty or loyalty to their drafted club. NCAA, North Americans, perhaps have more of an entitlement or an attachment to a certain city they feel they need to be in or near.

For once, it would be cool in theory for a high profile player to be like yeah I'm from there I want to go there, and to choose to come here on his own and decline an ELC from his drafted team.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 8 @ 11:26 AM ET
Because the team owns you. Once you start playing for them.

I won't say it's never happened but I can't think of a time where a CHL contract was terminated in order to transfer to a European league.

- TheSabresTaco


Can CHL players make money (legally, not envelopes of cash in the locker after the game) like college athletes now?


College hockey might be more intrigring with NIL money and more control of your future:


https://www.wwnytv.com/20...-names-college-athletics/

Better link:

https://www.collegehockey...cial-Report-What-NIL-.php
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 8 @ 11:33 AM ET
.915 vibes > .889 vibes

If UPL is demonstrably better, he's gotta play. No Peterman vibes allowed

- Hank Balling


Wasn't he last year? Those numbers are pretty close to what happened.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 11:34 AM ET
Can CHL players make money (legally, not envelopes of cash in the locker after the game) like college athletes now?


College hockey might be more intrigring with NIL money and more control of your future:


https://www.wwnytv.com/20...-names-college-athletics/

Better link:

https://www.collegehockey...cial-Report-What-NIL-.php

- washedup20


They receive stipends and benefits, but they're not conventionally paid. They're also allowed to seek endorsements.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 8 @ 11:37 AM ET
Wasn't he last year? Those numbers are pretty close to what happened.
- Lunaion


UPL was pretty bad in Rochester except for a couple stretches. Craig was ok to start and sank hard. UPL in his, what, 4 games here, was better than Craig on average and way better here than in Rochester. All in all, it doesn't mean Richard because UPL's preseason was horrendous.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 8 @ 11:49 AM ET
UPL was pretty bad in Rochester except for a couple stretches. Craig was ok to start and sank hard. UPL in his, what, 4 games here, was better than Craig on average and way better here than in Rochester. All in all, it doesn't mean Richard because UPL's preseason was horrendous.
- TheSabresTaco


9 games. On merit, he deserved a second recall.
Goalieguy43
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.29.2017

Sep 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
The Sabres WILL NOT have a three headed goalie monster - period end of report.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
9 games. On merit, he deserved a second recall.
- Lunaion



Does Fanduel have an O/U on games played before injury for him?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
One comment on the Anderson assertion in the blog. Half, and I do mean half, the reason he's even here is for hashtag vibes. I don't see a scenario where he spends most of his time in the pressbox.
- TheSabresTaco


Absolutely agree 🌮

Anderson isnt just a cheerleader from the sidelines.

5 games over fake .500 last season as a starter.

He's gonna be starting the season as #1 and will play until he's replaced by someone better.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Wasn't he last year? Those numbers are pretty close to what happened.
- Lunaion


Winning is also important ☝️
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
People also complain about losing the rights of NCAA kids after 4 years, but in reality that goes for every single league (outside of CHL) in the world except the KHL.

I'm still waiting for major lottery hit Artyom Kryukov to sign his ELC.

- TheSabresTaco

no other league is a player getting a degree and then becoming a free agent a few months after getting that degrees unless the khl is handing out honorary degrees to moscow U
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
This is my assertion, but I think there's a different attitude from Europeans than NCAA players, rather North Americans. Europeans ditching their drafted teams to become free agents is almost non existent. Perhaps they have a sense of duty or loyalty to their drafted club. NCAA, North Americans, perhaps have more of an entitlement or an attachment to a certain city they feel they need to be in or near.

For once, it would be cool in theory for a high profile player to be like yeah I'm from there I want to go there, and to choose to come here on his own and decline an ELC from his drafted team.

- TheSabresTaco

comparing euro leagues from ncaa is apples and oranges

one league is getting paid, the other a degree

give me one good reason why a person who gets his degree should be allowed to become a free agent, in essence if the player's dream all along was to get a degree, the nhl team that drafts him has no leverage other than burning a year on entry level contract

if a college player does not want to sign with the club that drafts him after he gets a degree, he should be forced to sit out a year or play a year in europe before becoming a free agent to protect the team that drafts him
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Sep 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
comparing euro leagues from ncaa is apples and oranges

one league is getting paid, the other a degree

give me one good reason why a person who gets his degree should be allowed to become a free agent, in essence if the player's dream all along was to get a degree, the nhl team that drafts him has no leverage other than burning a year on entry level contract

if a college player does not want to sign with the club that drafts him after he gets a degree, he should be forced to sit out a year or play a year in europe before becoming a free agent to protect the team that drafts him

- homiedclown

At least you didn’t say apples to bananas.

I agree with making them sit out
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
comparing euro leagues from ncaa is apples and oranges

one league is getting paid, the other a degree

give me one good reason why a person who gets his degree should be allowed to become a free agent, in essence if the player's dream all along was to get a degree, the nhl team that drafts him has no leverage other than burning a year on entry level contract

if a college player does not want to sign with the club that drafts him after he gets a degree, he should be forced to sit out a year or play a year in europe before becoming a free agent to protect the team that drafts him

- homiedclown


Holding draft rights for 4 years is a long time, compared to other sports.
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