Not quite, but good lord, 2012 was turdtastic.

Yakopov.

Griffin Reinjart

Freakorenko

Burkie wasn't lying when he said Rielly should have been taken #1 overall.
- Atomic Wedgie

Every so often one of Burke's bombastic boasts bore out.

Not quite, but good lord, 2012 was turdtastic.

Yakopov.

Griffin Reinjart

Freakorenko

Burkie wasn't lying when he said Rielly should have been taken #1 overall.
- Atomic Wedgie

Slavin picked at #120 is up there too.

the Mac contract has ramped up the Leafs are not going to be able to afford Matthews talk.

good times

Not quite, but good lord, 2012 was turdtastic.

Yakopov.

Griffin Reinhart

Freakorenko

Burkie wasn't lying when he said Rielly should have been taken #1 overall.
- Atomic Wedgie

He's 5th in scoring behind:

1: Forsberg
2: Hertl
3: Rielly
4: Teravainen

And he's only 33 points behind Hertl so....

But yeah what a dreadful draft class.

Not quite, but good lord, 2012 was turdtastic.

Yakopov.

Griffin Reinhart

Freakorenko

Burkie wasn't lying when he said Rielly should have been taken #1 overall.
- Atomic Wedgie

He was taken where he should have been, but ahead of him should have been:

Vasilevsky
Hertl
Hellybuck
Slavin

the Mac contract has ramped up the Leafs are not going to be able to afford Matthews talk.

good times
- senstroll

Matthews gonna leave, but Leafs fans will be happy with Marner at 15M per

the Mac contract has ramped up the Leafs are not going to be able to afford Matthews talk.

good times
- senstroll

Bring it on

Matthews
Marner
McDavid

One after another. Once McDavid sees Leon skip town, the countdown starts

Matthews gonna leave, but Leafs fans will be happy with Marner at 15M per
- 21peter

leafs have 4 players currently under contract for Matthews UFA season. and a total of 9 mil allocated the season after. give it all the AM

Matthews gonna leave, but Leafs fans will be happy with Marner at 15M per
- 21peter

Matthews isn’t going to leave. But he will demand the maximum and the leafs will cave.

leafs have 4 players currently under contract for Matthews UFA season. and a total of 9 mil allocated the season after. give it all the AM
- senstroll

How different things would've been if just Snakes didn't sleep in those sheets - and to a lesser degree Marner with 1.5M less per...

Matthews isn’t going to leave. But he will demand the maximum and the leafs will cave.
- TurdFergeson

- as they should!

Depends if the Leafs looks like a true contender by then though...

Matthews isn’t going to leave. But he will demand the maximum and the leafs will cave.
- TurdFergeson

Why wouldn’t they give him something close to the max? He deserves it.

Matthews gonna leave, but Leafs fans will be happy with Marner at 15M per
- 21peter

That's an interesting point.

Fun game: fill in the Cap number for the corresponding season and the contract amount for each player's new contract or "trade" or "walk" or whatever.

Cap Estimate?

2024
Important UFAs:
Matthews
Nylander
Muzzin
Brodie
Gio

Cap Estimate?

2025
Important UFAs:
Marner
Tavares

(Note: the only players currently on the roster signed passed year 2025 so far are Rielly and Jarnkrok, otherwise there is not ONE other player under contract, just something to keep in mind when estimating.)


When I look at this, makes me think Dubas might want to get fired because there is some really tough work ahead for this team. Wow.

Why wouldn’t they give him something close to the max? He deserves it.
- Canada Cup

(frank) ya he does. Favorite Leaf ever for me.

(Admittedly, I missed most of Sundin, Clarke and Gilmore's years being out of the country)

How different things would've been if just Snakes didn't sleep in those sheets - and to a lesser degree Marner with 1.5M less per...
- 21peter

I was told what does an extra million at Marner's cap hit matter since it's so large anyway?

Don't remind my of his infamous slide in last year's playoffs.


Edit: too late.
- Scabeh

I've never understood how people thought he was so good. And the second he got that contract, I hated it.

It's like him getting hurt always erases peoples memories of how bad he can be because when he comes back, he's slightly better than the backup that took his place.

He's 5th in scoring behind:

1: Forsberg
2: Hertl
3: Rielly
4: Teravainen

And he's only 33 points behind Hertl so....

But yeah what a dreadful draft class.

- Scabeh

Astonishingly he's actually played more NHL games than Forsberg, Hertl and Teravainen too. Just a grotesque draft year.

That's an interesting point.

Fun game: fill in the Cap number for the corresponding season and the contract amount for each player's new contract or "trade" or "walk" or whatever.

Cap Estimate?

2024
Matthews 15
Nylander 8.5
Muzzin Gone
Brodie Gone
Gio Gone

Cap Estimate? 85

2025
Marner 10.904
Tavares Gone

(Note: the only players currently on the roster signed passed year 2025 so far are Rielly and Jarnkrok, otherwise there is not ONE other player under contract, just something to keep in mind when estimating.)


When I look at this, makes me think Dubas might want to get fired because there is some really tough work ahead for this team. Wow.
- underhill14

He's 5th in scoring behind:

1: Forsberg
2: Hertl
3: Rielly
4: Teravainen

And he's only 33 points behind Hertl so....

But yeah what a dreadful draft class.

- Scabeh

Leafs drafted 2 guys in the top 15 points-wise in the draft. Dead give away that it wasn't good.

I was told what does an extra million at Marner's cap hit matter since it's so large anyway?
- Aaron_85

Can't expect too much math love from these guys eh...

That's an interesting point.

Fun game: fill in the Cap number for the corresponding season and the contract amount for each player's new contract or "trade" or "walk" or whatever.

Cap Estimate?

2024
Important UFAs:
Matthews
Nylander
Muzzin
Brodie
Gio

Cap Estimate?

2025
Important UFAs:
Marner
Tavares

(Note: the only players currently on the roster signed passed year 2025 so far are Rielly and Jarnkrok, otherwise there is not ONE other player under contract, just something to keep in mind when estimating.)


When I look at this, makes me think Dubas might want to get fired because there is some really tough work ahead for this team. Wow.
- underhill14

Muzzin is gone, Brodie can stay on a short deal for less, Gio is gone, JT stays for Spezza $ or works in management, Matthews gets whatever he wants, Marner gets a buck fiddy less, Willie gets a decent/manageable raise or goes. Rielly is paid for. There are no poopty contracts carrying over right now. Knies, Sandin, Lilli, Niemila (sp) get worked in and there’s JT, Muzzin and cap expansion $ available. I think Kyle is in great shape

I was told what does an extra million at Marner's cap hit matter since it's so large anyway?
- Aaron_85

Yeah but Leafs

[quote=21peter]

If Nylander keeps posting 90 points season, he's getting more than 8,5M with a rising cap.

IMHO.

[quote=21peter]
No raise for Marner? I see him at $12 after trying to fight for more.

What if JT takes a pay cut to stay as the 3C?

But I think overall I agree with you.

[quote=underhill14]

JT stays for Spezza $ for a Cup or goes upstairs