Eklund
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Joined: 09.15.2005
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Shynes57
Florida Panthers |
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Joined: 11.12.2019
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Lol thats team friendly????? |
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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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I knew me and Cooleus and 13Sundin13 knew what we were talking about. Considering cap projections - this is a very fair contract for Colorado. - Sats Mundin
As expected...media overreacts and are blown away. Smart readers knew that $12-13M was a fair number. I predicted $12.5M x 8 for an even $100M. It was $12.6M. Off by less than 1%. No sources here. Just a knowledge of the sport... |
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I knew me and Cooleus and 13Sundin13 knew what we were talking about. Considering cap projections - this is a very fair contract for Colorado. - Sats Mundin
Yep, you guys pretty much nailed it. |
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Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA Joined: 06.06.2013
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"With a rising cap, this contract will look cheap and be a bargain in a few years."
That being said: guy earned his cheddar. |
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Bartacus
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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The sell of the deal to the player is that it's the highest in the league. This will make Matthews' next contract discussions very interesting. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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The sell of the deal to the player is that it's the highest in the league. This will make Matthews' next contract discussions very interesting. - Bartacus
Matthews? Hell, what's Makar going to ask for? |
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Matthews? Hell, what's Makar going to ask for? - jmatchett383
Makar signed a six year deal last summer. He'll likely be comically underpaid by the end of it. |
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WayneZ
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Yay we're relevant again, VA Joined: 01.28.2008
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He was always going to get it so I'm not surprised, but I just don't think it is a good deal. Over his career he has averaged 72 points per season, and in that same time he has played an average of 70.1 games per season. That makes him just slightly over a point per game player.
I know the numbers don't tell the whole story and that he is a generational talent, but I'm not sold that this is a win for the Avs over the next 8 seasons if those averages maintain pace. Just my opinion though. |
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Makar signed a six year deal last summer. He'll likely be comically underpaid by the end of it. - FoppaForever
Just like McKinnon.
Almost like Colorado know what they're doing.
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Ging72
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 06.13.2017
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Too much money , if your team wants to win more cups , No team has won a cup with a player making more than 10 million on the cap . |
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stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA Joined: 10.05.2005
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"With a rising cap, this contract will look cheap and be a bargain in a few years."
That being said: guy earned his cheddar. - Only_A_Ladd
Maybe next year he'll get his first 100 point season and score more than 41 goals.
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He was always going to get it so I'm not surprised, but I just don't think it is a good deal. Over his career he has averaged 72 points per season, and in that same time he has played an average of 70.1 games per season. That makes him just slightly over a point per game player.
I know the numbers don't tell the whole story and that he is a generational talent, but I'm not sold that this is a win for the Avs over the next 8 seasons. Just my opinion though. - WayneZ
I know that this could easily dismissed as an Avs fan rationalizing away some numbers but a switch clearly flipped in 2017 and he's been essentially a 100+ point pace player since then, in the Top 3 of the Hart for 3 of the last 5 years. He's said in interviews that he sort of rededicated himself at that point to really maximize his talent and did things like invest in a personal chef and trainer and transformed into the sort of crazy obsessive he's now known to be.
In short what I'm saying is I think looking at his career average numbers is very misleading in his particular case. Also of note, he's the 6th leading playoff points per game producer in NHL history and three of the people above him on the list (McDavid, Draisaitl and Barry Pederson) have played half of the playoff games of MacKinnon.
https://www.quanthockey.c...nts-per-game-leaders.html
Edited to add: Even factoring in his good but not great first 4 seasons, he's a point per game player. |
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PDO-Speedwagon
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Match Penalty Joined: 12.09.2021
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Leniwm1
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 02.24.2015
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He already took a discount his last contract. Think of this as money owed on the backend. Though, it might be tougher for the Avs to stay competitive or have quality depth. |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Matthews? Hell, what's Makar going to ask for? - jmatchett383
9M cap hit |
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He already took a discount his last contract. Think of this as money owed on the backend. Though, it might be tougher for the Avs to stay competitive or have quality depth. - Leniwm1
As has been said many times he really didn't take a discount. Look at his numbers the three years before it and the first year after it. Many people actually thought it was a slight overpay at the time. He was 24-39-63, 14-24-38 and 21-31-52 before he signed that contract and 16-37-53 the first season after signing it. |
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He already "gave at the office" on his previous contract ... and he's won a cup, so there's no need for him to compromise on the issue of his current market value. |
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poopstash
Los Angeles Kings |
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Joined: 03.21.2015
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As expected...media overreacts and are blown away. Smart readers knew that $12-13M was a fair number. I predicted $12.5M x 8 for an even $100M. It was $12.6M. Off by less than 1%. No sources here. Just a knowledge of the sport... - Cooleus
Careful bud don’t choke while deep throating yourself |
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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA Joined: 04.27.2011
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Fair deal for MaK. Will be increasingly team friendly for the Avs as the years go provided the cap rises as expected.
Also love what this means for a Matthews extension in 2024. Barring anything unforeseen it should be easy to get him to sign at $13.5 aav or less. Using the same sell line of “highest paid in the league”. Only variable will be term. Hopefully MLSE and whomever is GM will get 8years this time 🤞🏾 |
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Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA Joined: 06.06.2013
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Maybe next year he'll get his first 100 point season and score more than 41 goals. - stevens87
What's your point? From 2017/2017 to 21/22, he's at 1.31 PPG. Who else compares other than McJesus and his German friend? Bread? Mathews? Can you imagine Colorado trying to argue that his number should be lower because from 2013/14-16/17, he was still developing and playing on some bad teams? |
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Squeaky
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 06.26.2021
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It's crazy how little NHL players make compared to everyone else. Soto's turning down $440 million. Lamar's turning down $250 million. Basketball's pushing 50 million a year. Soccer's pushing 40. In a few years, MLS players will be making more. |
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