The problem is a contract like this forces other players contracts to be overpaid. Jake Guentzel has scored 40 goals twice, has scored 34 goals in just 58 playoff games and was a big reason why The Pens won the Cup in 2017. Now a player like him will say "well I may not be as complete a player but I'm worth at least 75% as good".
- stevens87

You aren't an owner. So who cares? Guentzel should get every single penny he can get if that's what he wants. He has a small window to make maximum dollars on his very unique skill which he's spent 1000's of hours cultivating.

Um, what? Why should fans care about what athletes get paid?

If you're the best in the world at something, you're going to make a ton of money no matter what you do.

If someone's willing to pay you, you're worth it.
- Squeaky

That is the problem People talk about it instead of talking about the game The game is bigger than any player ever was but all we talk about is how much money so and so is making. Just stupid All about GREED When will enough be enough High ticket prices and fans just cannot wait to pay them. That is where STUPID lies

Dr. Patrick Soon Shiong is worth more than 7 billion. Dr. James Andrews is worth more than 10 million. If you're not making more than a million, you aren't the best in your field. For example, Rutgers' top neurosurgeon is making 3 million.

There are far, far, far, far more neurosurgeons in the world than there are hockey players of MacKinnon's ability. I'm not saying hockey players are more important than doctors, but where there are only a handful of people in the world who are better at your profession, you deserved to get paid. MacKinnon can make the case that there aren't ten people on the planet better at his profession than he is. Can you make that case?


The average hockey player makes far less than the average doctor.
- Squeaky

And the average hockey player is dumber than a neurosurgeon and does not do anything to save lives. Put in in the proper prospective before making an arse out of yourself

And the average hockey player is dumber than a neurosurgeon and does not do anything to save lives. Put in in the proper prospective before making an arse out of yourself
- broncohorvath

Societies always valued entertainment. Gladiators, chariot racers, knights, etc. Stakes are lower now for the entertainers, but they were always compensated above the plebes.

Way overpayed.. they will becregreting it in 3-4 years

Way overpayed.. they will be regretting it in 3-4 years

And the average hockey player is dumber than a neurosurgeon and does not do anything to save lives. Put in in the proper prospective before making an arse out of yourself
- broncohorvath

I'm not sure what your point is. The average hockey player doesn't make very much money. The average salary outside the NHL is below 50,000. The average neurosurgeon's salary is pretty close to the top 1%.

There are tens of thousands of people in the world that can do what a top neurosurgeon does. There are tens of people that can do what MacKinnon does.

I don't see a lot of Avs games, but when I do, there are at least 3 or 4 times that he has me incredulous, bewildered, and/or befuffled. Just a marvelous player that deserves the money.

Hopefully the cap gets moving up for the Avs (and for AM34 and the Leafs).

You aren't an owner. So who cares? Guentzel should get every single penny he can get if that's what he wants. He has a small window to make maximum dollars on his very unique skill which he's spent 1000's of hours cultivating.
- Only_A_Ladd

I don't have to be an owner to think this is an overpayment!

That is the problem People talk about it instead of talking about the game The game is bigger than any player ever was but all we talk about is how much money so and so is making. Just stupid All about GREED When will enough be enough High ticket prices and fans just cannot wait to pay them. That is where STUPID lies
- broncohorvath

Isn't it usually you that is the first to bring up money and salaries in every thread? Most other people just talk hockey but you are the one that makes a point to bring up money in like every thread here.

I don't have to be an owner to think this is an overpayment!
- stevens87

Again: why do you care? It isn't even your team. It is the Cup champion who are securing a player who is arguably top 5 in the world, but definitely somewhere between 6-10. The guy has a higher PPG in the last 5 years than nearly everyone not named Connor or Leon. You kept pointing out 100 pts and 41 goals as watermarks. Why does that matter more than PPG? His playoff performances?

The salary cap is directly tied to HRR, which only increases as the fans (and television rights) are willing to spend more money. If the league is making more money, then the players will as well. The players are giving a product that fans are willing to pay for, and are being paid accordingly.

I don't see the problem here. They are selling a product and being paid for said product according to the rules of the league they play in.

I don't have to be an owner to think this is an overpayment!
- stevens87

Overpayment? He’s the best forward in the NHL and he is signed for 8 years at a very very good cap friendly number all things considered. Not to mention they have the best d in the NHL who also has an amazing contract. CO has done a nice job here.

Matthew’s and McD are amazing players, but they are not the team leader that Mackinnin is. Not even close.

I'm not sure what your point is. The average hockey player doesn't make very much money. The average salary outside the NHL is below 50,000. The average neurosurgeon's salary is pretty close to the top 1%.

There are tens of thousands of people in the world that can do what a top neurosurgeon does. There are tens of people that can do what MacKinnon does.
- Squeaky

Law of supply and demand. That’s all it is.

I'm not sure what your point is. The average hockey player doesn't make very much money. The average salary outside the NHL is below 50,000. The average neurosurgeon's salary is pretty close to the top 1%.
"There are tens of thousands of people in the world that can do what a top neurosurgeon does. There are tens of people that can do what MacKinnon does.
- Squeaky

Without taking a census, I guarantee you that this in incorrect. Also, that nuerosurgeon saves people's lives. MacKinnon is an entertainer.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to get paid, but you're not making an apples to apples comparison here.

Overpayment? He’s the best forward in the NHL and he is signed for 8 years at a very very good cap friendly number all things considered. Not to mention they have the best d in the NHL who also has an amazing contract. CO has done a nice job here.

Matthew’s and McD are amazing players, but they are not the team leader that Mackinnin is. Not even close.
- Joe Nardone

So you're telling me the best player in the NHL has never scored 100 points or had more than 41 goals?

So you're telling me the best player in the NHL has never scored 100 points or had more than 41 goals?
- stevens87

Yes, Igor Shesterkin has never had more than 41 goals or 100 points.

Yes, Igor Shesterkin has never had more than 41 goals or 100 points.
- jmatchett383

OK, you didn't get me a chance to correct it.

So you're telling me the best FORWARD in the NHL has never had a 100 point season or score more than 41 goals?

I'm not sure what your point is. The average hockey player doesn't make very much money. The average salary outside the NHL is below 50,000. The average neurosurgeon's salary is pretty close to the top 1%.

There are tens of thousands of people in the world that can do what a top neurosurgeon does. There are tens of people that can do what MacKinnon does.
- Squeaky

oufff you might need a crash course into capitalism 101...

OK, you didn't get me a chance to correct it.

So you're telling me the best FORWARD in the NHL has never had a 100 point season or score more than 41 goals?
- stevens87

Haha. I think he's top-3, honestly. Would still put McDavid ahead of him fore sure.

Haha. I think he's top-3, honestly. Would still put McDavid ahead of him fore sure.
- jmatchett383

But in the end the player is paid by his production, right? His production is good but it is not "highest paid forward in the league" good not even close! There were 8 players who scored 100 points last year and 12 had more than 41 goals!

The player who is a steal right now is Draisaitl!

But in the end the player is paid by his production, right? His production is good but it is not "highest paid forward in the league" good not even close! There were 8 players who scored 100 points last year and 12 had more than 41 goals!

The player who is a steal right now is Draisaitl!
- stevens87

No, it can't just be stone cold numbers. I think he brings more to the team than just goals and assists. I'd rather have MacKinnon that Huberdeau or Gaudreau, even though they had more points last year.

But in the end the player is paid by his production, right? His production is good but it is not "highest paid forward in the league" good not even close! There were 8 players who scored 100 points last year and 12 had more than 41 goals!

The player who is a steal right now is Draisaitl!
- stevens87

When healthy, Mackinnon is a top three forward in the league. Hands down. After Mcdavid, Mackinnon is the most dominant player in the league. He also just won a cup and got paid slightly more than McDavid who signed his contract 5 years ago. Leon will be getting his raise soon enough.

Mackinnon has also been severely underpaid the last few years.

I'm not sure what your point is. The average hockey player doesn't make very much money. The average salary outside the NHL is below 50,000. The average neurosurgeon's salary is pretty close to the top 1%.

There are tens of thousands of people in the world that can do what a top neurosurgeon does. There are tens of people that can do what MacKinnon does.
- Squeaky

The point dimwit is that the fans foot the bill Ticket prices are outrageous and unless you are blessed with a lot of extra cash you cannot attend I thought that when most people get shut out that is not the best thing to do. I guess you are and elite person in your own right When does it stop is my point You just do not get it They throw money around like it means nothing They talk about money money money and the hell with the game itself I am worth more than you are is the theme

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