1: That's a big IF.

2: I'm not convinced.
- Scabeh

99% of the perception of Campbell is because he's a really nice guy, and everyone loves a story of a guy getting over mental health issues.

The truth is he had an outstanding first couple of months of last season, and then was mediocre at best.

I wish him well this season.

But it won't be that hard to replace him.

1: That's a big IF.

2: I'm not convinced.
- Scabeh

I'm on the fence. On the one hand, when Campbell was on for that one singular month last season, he was incredible. But on the other, that was his only month with a SV% above .900.

I will say that Murray looks like he's come back to life. Literally. He looked like a walking deadman with Ottawa. A skeleton, even. But he looks like a human again now.

Amazing what leaving Ottawa will do for a man.

No, seriously, this is a really interesting idea.

NHLPA would be on board.

NHL might not be as happy - I'm assuming their immediate reaction would be it would skew competitive balance (what we pretend is the reason for the salary cap).

They also wouldn't like that it would water down the team ads they are selling.

There would have to be some sort of formula - maybe 50% of the ad money goes to salary cap.
- Atomic Wedgie

Be along the lines of Golf. Obviously an individual sport.. but smaller scaled.

What would be interesting is if the ad or a couple could be in lieu of team salary. Now that would make the cap very cool.

https://twitter.com/barst...tatus/1572436273088069634

Sorry, Judge and Yankess, but if I got that ball I sure as poop wouldn't be handing it to you.

I'm getting the millions the idiots that love memorabilia say it's worth.
- GreatGigInTheSky

i dont know if it would be millions, but a lot.
i def wouldnt hand it over for a few signed things.

If they have a shot at doing real damage in the playoffs, then go for it. That’s what teams do at the deadline. The fact is that Dubas has refused to make deals to help in the short term for this year. He’s still structured the roster to maintain flexibility to resign Matthews and Marner.

He thinks Murray is the guy. If he’s wrong and Samsonov can’t step up, he’s (frank)ed
- Canada Cup

Well if hes wrong, the leafs as a whole are F'd.
Hoping hes right, trades for P Kane and leafs get to at least the 3rd round.

No, seriously, this is a really interesting idea.

NHLPA would be on board.

NHL might not be as happy - I'm assuming their immediate reaction would be it would skew competitive balance (what we pretend is the reason for the salary cap).

They also wouldn't like that it would water down the team ads they are selling.

There would have to be some sort of formula - maybe 50% of the ad money goes to salary cap.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yeah, Gary says no. We control everything. We set the standard for the look (3 1/2 inch patch) and the $ goes to the teams and is counted as HRR as per the CBA. Go away.

99% of the perception of Campbell is because he's a really nice guy, and everyone loves a story of a guy getting over mental health issues.

The truth is he had an outstanding first couple of months of last season, and then was mediocre at best.

I wish him well this season.

But it won't be that hard to replace him.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm not saying Campbell was a top tier goaltender in the NHL or anything.

But Matt Murray isn't either and I'm not convinced he's a significant upgrade, if at all.

For what it's worth, I have more faith in Campbell "working out" in Edmonton (if only because he replaces someone much worse than... well everyone) than Murray in Toronto.

So with Murray and Samsonov, it's basically two gambles and the leafs only need one of them to work for things to finally go their way in the playoffs.

Because yes, they're making the playoffs even with terrible goaltending.

I'm on the fence. On the one hand, when Campbell was on for that one singular month last season, he was incredible. But on the other, that was his only month with a SV% above .900.

I will say that Murray looks like he's come back to life. Literally. He looked like a walking deadman with Ottawa. A skeleton, even. But he looks like a human again now.

Amazing what leaving Ottawa will do for a man.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Ya, Steinbrenner's can afford to cut the family man that caught the ball a nice big cheque.
- The Law

It's actually ridiculous that they gave the kid a signed bat and that's it.

That kids parents probably whooped his ass when he got home.

Nobody is letting me in to a Teams meeting training session.

How longdo i wait before giving up?

I'm on the fence. On the one hand, when Campbell was on for that one singular month last season, he was incredible. But on the other, that was his only month with a SV% above .900.

I will say that Murray looks like he's come back to life. Literally. He looked like a walking deadman with Ottawa. A skeleton, even. But he looks like a human again now.

Amazing what leaving Ottawa will do for a man.
- GreatGigInTheSky

As the division has gotten better ?? or somewhat... with Ott and Sabres being markedly better and even Det and Habs improved ... B's a little better and Tampa & Fla not going anywhere -

Does this injury bug already cropping up mean shorter leashes for some ?? and even for Keefe... Gonna be a very interesting start to the season.

Nobody is letting me in to a Teams meeting training session.

How longdo i wait before giving up?
- Atomic Wedgie

10 minutes.

Nobody is letting me in to a Teams meeting training session.

How longdo i wait before giving up?
- Atomic Wedgie

12 mins.

Nobody is letting me in to a Teams meeting training session.

How longdo i wait before giving up?
- Atomic Wedgie

Dammit, I'm in.

i dont know if it would be millions, but a lot.
i def wouldnt hand it over for a few signed things.
- senstroll

I taking the odds and selling it.

As the division has gotten better ?? or somewhat... with Ott and Sabres being markedly better and even Det and Habs improved ... B's a little better and Tampa & Fla not going anywhere -

Does this injury bug already cropping up mean shorter leashes for some ?? and even for Keefe... Gonna be a very interesting start to the season.
- dozerD10

Well none of the injuries are touching core players so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Dammit, I'm in.
- Atomic Wedgie

I personally love the “Milk” logo
- .HOHO.

as do I 👍

however, in order to make it more macho, i think that they should add the word “man” in front of it👍🏿

I'm not saying Campbell was a top tier goaltender in the NHL or anything.

But Matt Murray isn't either and I'm not convinced he's a significant upgrade, if at all.


- Scabeh

For what it's worth, I have more faith in Campbell "working out" in Edmonton (if only because he replaces someone much worse than... well everyone) than Murray in Toronto.

So with Murray and Samsonov, it's basically two gambles and the leafs only need one of them to work for things to finally go their way in the playoffs.

Because yes, they're making the playoffs even with terrible goaltending.

you are saying Edmonton had worse goaltending than the leafs last season?

I'm not saying Campbell was a top tier goaltender in the NHL or anything.

But Matt Murray isn't either and I'm not convinced he's a significant upgrade, if at all.

For what it's worth, I have more faith in Campbell "working out" in Edmonton (if only because he replaces someone much worse than... well everyone) than Murray in Toronto.

So with Murray and Samsonov, it's basically two gambles and the leafs only need one of them to work for things to finally go their way in the playoffs.

Because yes, they're making the playoffs even with terrible goaltending.
- Scabeh

I sincerely worry about Campbell in Edmonton.

Yeah, Toronto media glare can be brutal for a goalie when things aren't going well.

But there's no hiding in Edmonton.

If things go bad, he will stew in it.

Hell, he'll be boiling in it.

From the tweeter

#Leafs who had their listed weight increase by over 5 lbs:

• Gaudette 194, +24
• Holmberg 202, +23
• Hollowell 187, +17
• Rindell 192, +16
• Samsonov 214, +14
• Murray 202, +12
• Abruzzese 183, +9
• Marner 181, +9
• Brodie 187, +9
• Nylander 204, +8
• Minten 192, +7
Other notables:

• Kallgren 200, +7
• Der-Arguchintsev 173, +7
• Villeneuve 184, +7
• Robertson 183, +6
• Douglas 242, +5
• Matthews 208, +3

I taking the odds and selling it.
- GreatGigInTheSky

500k I can see for #60

but yeah, pretty dumb to just hand it over for a $50 signed ball

I'm not saying Campbell was a top tier goaltender in the NHL or anything.

But Matt Murray isn't either and I'm not convinced he's a significant upgrade, if at all.

For what it's worth, I have more faith in Campbell "working out" in Edmonton (if only because he replaces someone much worse than... well everyone) than Murray in Toronto.

So with Murray and Samsonov, it's basically two gambles and the leafs only need one of them to work for things to finally go their way in the playoffs.

Because yes, they're making the playoffs even with terrible goaltending.
- Scabeh

Before the Leafs traded for Murray, my hope for the off-season was to sign Samsonov to be the #1. Roll with him all season and if he wasn't great, trade for an actual #1 at the deadline.

But I can't see them trading for a goalie at the deadline with two guys here now, regardless if they both suck.

So swing for the fences, since Dubas needs to earn a new contract. Trade for Kane or someone along those lines. Could be an interesting deadline, that's for sure.

- Scabeh

I'm not saying Campbell was a top tier goaltender in the NHL or anything.

But Matt Murray isn't either and I'm not convinced he's a significant upgrade, if at all.

For what it's worth, I have more faith in Campbell "working out" in Edmonton (if only because he replaces someone much worse than... well everyone) than Murray in Toronto.

So with Murray and Samsonov, it's basically two gambles and the leafs only need one of them to work for things to finally go their way in the playoffs.

Because yes, they're making the playoffs even with terrible goaltending.
- Scabeh

Your view / take on this is biased and it's showing.

Either that or it's an excellent troll job you keep repeating.

Regardless Habs suck.


In all seriousness what choice did Dubas have as opposed to 'taking a gamble' on goaltending as everyone seems to be preaching / lamenting? What top shelf/elite goalie was available for him to aquire this off season that he did not?

Goaltending is a gamble for almost every team, every year and I say that as a goalie. It's less of a gamble to expect 'league average' goaltending but to expect to have a Vasi type of guy is just silly there are very few teams who get that type/level of goaltending almost every year guarenteed.

Hell look at Vasi in the 1st round last year- that was NOT elite goaltending but he & his team got it done when it mattered.

To me if the strategy when planning your team is to build around the expectation that your goalie will be elite the vast majority of the time then you are doomed as it's an unpredictable and generally unsustainable expectation.