I'm on the fence. On the one hand, when Campbell was on for that one singular month last season, he was incredible. But on the other, that was his only month with a SV% above .900.

I will say that Murray looks like he's come back to life. Literally. He looked like a walking deadman with Ottawa. A skeleton, even. But he looks like a human again now.

Amazing what leaving Ottawa will do for a man.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Anyone have a link for his sv% by month for last year?

I found one for his career, but I just want to see 2021-22.

Thanks

As the division has gotten better ?? or somewhat... with Ott and Sabres being markedly better and even Det and Habs improved ... B's a little better and Tampa & Fla not going anywhere -

Does this injury bug already cropping up mean shorter leashes for some ?? and even for Keefe... Gonna be a very interesting start to the season.
- dozerD10

The teams that got better still aren't good enough. Florida actually got a bit worse, but will still finish 2nd or 3rd in the division.

One might fight Boston for a wild card spot, since Boston has major injuris for the first few months of the season.

you are saying Edmonton had worse goaltending than the leafs last season?
- senstroll

I'm saying Campbell is a better goaltender than a 39 years old Mike Smith, yes.

Well none of the injuries are touching core players so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
- Scabeh

Wow. The Liljegren disrespect.

From the tweeter

#Leafs who had their listed weight increase by over 5 lbs:

• Gaudette 194, +24
• Holmberg 202, +23
• Hollowell 187, +17
• Rindell 192, +16
• Samsonov 214, +14
• Murray 202, +12
• Abruzzese 183, +9
• Marner 181, +9
• Brodie 187, +9
• Nylander 204, +8
• Minten 192, +7
Other notables:

• Kallgren 200, +7
• Der-Arguchintsev 173, +7
• Villeneuve 184, +7
• Robertson 183, +6
• Douglas 242, +5
• Matthews 208, +3
- Fakepartofme

I made a MILK sponsor Leafs are fat now joke a few pages back.

I'm not saying Campbell was a top tier goaltender in the NHL or anything.

But Matt Murray isn't either and I'm not convinced he's a significant upgrade, if at all.

For what it's worth, I have more faith in Campbell "working out" in Edmonton (if only because he replaces someone much worse than... well everyone) than Murray in Toronto.

So with Murray and Samsonov, it's basically two gambles and the leafs only need one of them to work for things to finally go their way in the playoffs.

Because yes, they're making the playoffs even with terrible goaltending.
- Scabeh

Smith had better save% than Campbell last year. Both were poopty and very good for chunks of time and both played behind a very bad D that may be worse this year.

I don’t think Campbell takes anyone to the SC. I’ve just seen too much up and down from him. I also think that Murray is technically a better goalie than Campbell and he’s shown what he can do in the playoffs. If he can get healthy, he should be able to return to form. I didn’t see anyone else on the market this summer worth much.

Anyone have a link for his sv% by month for last year?

I found one for his career, but I just want to see 2021-22.

Thanks
- Atomic Wedgie

https://www.hockey-refere...s/c/campbja01/splits/2022

500k I can see for #60

but yeah, pretty dumb to just hand it over for a $50 signed ball
- senstroll

Pretty gutless of the Yankees, I'm not gonna lie.

Hell, they should've given the kid tickets to the next game, hoping he'd get the next ball, too. So they can fleece him again.

Your view / take on this is biased and it's showing.

Either that or it's an excellent troll job you keep repeating.

Regardless Habs suck.


In all seriousness what choice did Dubas have as opposed to 'taking a gamble' on goaltending as everyone seems to be preaching / lamenting? What top shelf/elite goalie was available for him to aquire this off season that he did not?

Goaltending is a gamble for almost every team, every year and I say that as a goalie. It's less of a gamble to expect 'league average' goaltending but to expect to have a Vasi type of guy is just silly there are very few teams who get that type/level of goaltending almost every year guarenteed.

Hell look at Vasi in the 1st round last year- that was NOT elite goaltending but he & his team got it done when it mattered.

To me if the strategy when planning your team is to build around the expectation that your goalie will be elite the vast majority of the time then you are doomed as it's an unpredictable and generally unsustainable expectation.
- Cush29

Well if I'm biased, I'm not doing it on purpose.

I said last year I had no love for Murray (while he was with Ottawa), I said it was a bad idea to bring him in when rumors surfaced and I'm not changing my opinion on him because he's a Leafs.

You're right, plenty of goaltenders tend to be "unstable" in their performances but I still think there are some that are more reliable than others. Murray both had bad performances and numerous injuries in the last few years so, despite the possibility he could bounce back to his best self, I don't like the gamble.

On the other hand, I actually like the Samsonov one, it's cheaper and gambling on a 25 year old goaltender getting better makes sense to me since very few actually know success very early in their careers.

I'm saying Campbell is a better goaltender than a 39 years old Mike Smith, yes.
- Scabeh

the stats dont back that up.

Wow. The Liljegren disrespect.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Anyone have a link for his sv% by month for last year?

I found one for his career, but I just want to see 2021-22.

Thanks
- Atomic Wedgie

I found one.

https://www.statmuse.com/...entage+by+month+2021%2F22


October .918
November .959
December .909
January .880
February .894
March .845
April .915

I sincerely worry about Campbell in Edmonton.

Yeah, Toronto media glare can be brutal for a goalie when things aren't going well.

But there's no hiding in Edmonton.

If things go bad, he will stew in it.

Hell, he'll be boiling in it.
- Atomic Wedgie

TSN has been playing up the Campbell will save the Oilers bit

The teams that got better still aren't good enough. Florida actually got a bit worse, but will still finish 2nd or 3rd in the division.

One might fight Boston for a wild card spot, since Boston has major injuris for the first few months of the season.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I'm not even remotely thinking any of those 4 Buf / Ott / D or Habs will be a threat for the Dance - just much more competitive and with the glare of TO -peoples perceptions of the team if more losses occur leading to some rash and ultimately poor decisions in the short term.

I found one.

https://www.statmuse.com/...entage+by+month+2021%2F22


October .918
November .959
December .909
January .880
February .894
March .845
April .915
- Cush29

His April #s were very high until his last two starts where he got shelled and Smith refused to pull him.

the stats dont back that up.
- senstroll

I know, you showed me before.

I just don't think the stats are telling the whole story here.

And mind you, maybe I'm just wrong.

Well if I'm biased, I'm not doing it on purpose.

I said last year I had no love for Murray (while he was with Ottawa), I said it was a bad idea to bring him in when rumors surfaced and I'm not changing my opinion on him because he's a Leafs.

You're right, plenty of goaltenders tend to be "unstable" in their performances but I still think there are some that are more reliable than others. Murray both had bad performances and numerous injuries in the last few years so, despite the possibility he could bounce back to his best self, I don't like the gamble.

On the other hand, I actually like the Samsonov one, it's cheaper and gambling on a 25 year old goaltender getting better makes sense to me since very few actually know success very early in their careers.
- Scabeh

Ok do you think the Leafs should have taken the gamble Edmonton did on Cambell then or done something else instead of Murray? I like the Samsonov aquisition A LOT but when I start to lament or doubt the Murray move I also wonder what would have been a better move since they only have him signed for this year and next.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/c/campbja01/splits/2022
- senstroll

Thanks

Not as grim as I remembered.

His April #s were very high until his last two starts where he got shelled and Smith refused to pull him.
- Canada Cup

?

I know, you showed me before.

I just don't think the stats are telling the whole story here.

And mind you, maybe I'm just wrong.

- Scabeh

JC could do well for Edm. I wish he would have been the solution for the Leafs. hard not to cheer for him.


its going to be a fun storyline to follow.

Nobody is letting me in to a Teams meeting training session.

How longdo i wait before giving up?
- Atomic Wedgie

Once I can point the finger at someone else ....I'm out.

?
- Cush29

Oops. NVM

?
- Cush29

dj smith and murray

march was rough

https://www.hockey-refere...s/m/murrama02/splits/2022

Ok do you think the Leafs should have taken the gamble Edmonton did on Cambell then or done something else instead of Murray? I like the Samsonov aquisition A LOT but when I start to lament or doubt the Murray move I also wonder what would have been a better move since they only have him signed for this year and next.
- Cush29

Well you actually have a point here that there were no perfect solutions out there for the Leafs last summer.

Opinions can vary, for exemple Ottawa felt their odds of making the playoffs were better with a Talbot/Forsberg tandem than keeping Murray.

Maybe they were wrong, maybe they were right, we'll see how it turns out.

dj smith and murray

march was rough

https://www.hockey-refere...s/m/murrama02/splits/2022
- senstroll

Ah that makes more sense - the #s I posted were Cambells.