Once I can point the finger at someone else ....I'm out.
- The Law

It got better - no sound on the video, so the 85 people in the meeting all felt the need to say "I don't have sound either" on the chat.

It got better - no sound on the video, so the 85 people in the meeting all felt the need to say "I don't have sound either" on the chat.
- Atomic Wedgie

Anyone have a link for his sv% by month for last year?

I found one for his career, but I just want to see 2021-22.

Thanks
- Atomic Wedgie

I don't. I seen't someone post a picture of it on here before.

Well you actually have a point here that there were no perfect solutions out there for the Leafs last summer.

Opinions can vary, for exemple Ottawa felt their odds of making the playoffs were better with a Talbot/Forsberg tandem than keeping Murray.

Maybe they were wrong, maybe they were right, we'll see how it turns out.
- Scabeh

If Leafs just wanted to make the playoffs, Talbot was available as a safe pickup or they could have kept Jack.

Murray has SC pedigree. Dubas believes in him. Dubas remembers bringing in Eaken when Murray was a mess in the Soo and Dubas knows just making the playoffs isn’t an option.

Murray is a good goalie. He’s only 28. If the Leafs can unlock that they’re in great shape.

Well you actually have a point here that there were no perfect solutions out there for the Leafs last summer.

Opinions can vary, for exemple Ottawa felt their odds of making the playoffs were better with a Talbot/Forsberg tandem than keeping Murray.

Maybe they were wrong, maybe they were right, we'll see how it turns out.
- Scabeh

One teams garbage is another teams treasure I suppose but also one team's gently used goalie is viewed by another team as their potential workhorse and answer to all their problems.

All these GM's and team's mgt. staff think of themselves as smarter than the rest of the league and able to see the 'true potential' of a player and convince themselves they can fix a broken toy.

Sometimes it works - sometimes not so much.

Look at Devan Dubanyk when he left Edmonton he was fantastic for a few seasons and there are dozens of examples of this going both ways. I'm hoping Murray went from high atop the mountain winning 2 cups to the latrine at base camp (aka Ottawa) and is now fully flushed and ready to climb to the top of the mountain again. lol

I'm not even remotely thinking any of those 4 Buf / Ott / D or Habs will be a threat for the Dance - just much more competitive and with the glare of TO -peoples perceptions of the team if more losses occur leading to some rash and ultimately poor decisions in the short term.
- dozerD10

The good news is that the Leafs lose to bad teams all the time. So more teams getting slightly better is good for the Leafs. They only win against good teams.

If Leafs just wanted to make the playoffs, Talbot was available as a safe pickup or they could have kept Jack.

Murray has SC pedigree. Dubas believes in him. Dubas remembers bringing in Eaken when Murray was a mess in the Soo and Dubas knows just making the playoffs isn’t an option.

Murray is a good goalie. He’s only 28. If the Leafs can unlock that they’re in great shape.
- Canada Cup

Well I can't blame you wanting to believe it turns out great. And it could.

I will still trash him in the prediction thread.

If Leafs just wanted to make the playoffs, Talbot was available as a safe pickup or they could have kept Jack.

Murray has SC pedigree. Dubas believes in him. Dubas remembers bringing in Eaken when Murray was a mess in the Soo and Dubas knows just making the playoffs isn’t an option.

Murray is a good goalie. He’s only 28. If the Leafs can unlock that they’re in great shape.
- Canada Cup

When I finally fill out the 2022-23 Official Leafs Hockeybuzz Predictions Thread, I will state that if I was Dubas, I would have investigated getting MAF, and signed the two PKs - Phil and...uh...PK.

David Alter
@dalter
Matthews: I want to be clear about the contract stuff. I’m going to touch on it today and that’s it. I’m focused on the season and we’ll deal with it then. I love playing here, I consider it home now.

Matthews on what makes Toronto ‘home’: The city has embraced me and my family. I’ve just grown comfortable in my own skin here, It’s such a special place to play.

he is going to LA or Pheonix or Zimbabwe

he is going to LA or Pheonix or Zimbabwe
- senstroll

Anywhere but the Leafs, obviously. They suck. Not suck as in worst in the league and playing in front of 5000 people suck, but still suck.

he is going to LA or Pheonix or Zimbabwe
- senstroll

Man, if people are bringing it up 2 years before the contract ends, imagine the poopshow it will be if he doesn't sign a new contract next summer?

When I finally fill out the 2022-23 Official Leafs Hockeybuzz Predictions Thread, I will state that if I was Dubas, I would have investigated getting MAF, and signed the two PKs - Phil and...uh...PK.
- Atomic Wedgie

Whens that happening?

Man, if people are bringing it up 2 years before the contract ends, imagine the poopshow it will be if he doesn't sign a new contract next summer?
- Scabeh

there is about a million non leaf fans..waiting, hoping, praying that happens.

waiting to pop out

via GIPHY

Agreed.
Except if murray fails, its a 4.6m anchor and could make having funds available to resign sam if he plays well a little more difficult.
Hoping they both play well.
- Fakepartofme

I have to back read so I'll respond as I can :D

If there's a new GM incoming I'd expect the core to be broken up soooo I wouldn't worry about the Murray contract. They could just ride with it and get another goalie with the space saved from trading everyone.

I know, you showed me before.

I just don't think the stats are telling the whole story here.

And mind you, maybe I'm just wrong.

- Scabeh

Other than the usual numbers; the ones I think show that Campbell was worse than smith is the high danger scoring numbers. I believe I saw the oilers with quite a few more high danger scoring chances against them than the leafs gave up, yet the leafs gave up far more goals on those chances. The oilers D is worse this year too. I don’t see it going well for Campbell in Edmonton.

Man, if people are bringing it up 2 years before the contract ends, imagine the poopshow it will be if he doesn't sign a new contract next summer?
- Scabeh

Matthews, Marner then McDavid all signing with the Leafs

Mike Stephens
@mikeystephens81
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1h
Dubas says Rodion Amirov is through his final round of chemotherapy. Leafs are working now to see if he’s able to travel to Toronto to train and play.

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When I finally fill out the 2022-23 Official Leafs Hockeybuzz Predictions Thread, I will state that if I was Dubas, I would have investigated getting MAF, and signed the two PKs - Phil and...uh...PK.
- Atomic Wedgie

You have the link to the playoff one??

I believe I was the only one that called the Avs with Makar winning Conn Smythe.

Mike Stephens
@mikeystephens81
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1h
Dubas says Rodion Amirov is through his final round of chemotherapy. Leafs are working now to see if he’s able to travel to Toronto to train and play.

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- GreatGigInTheSky

Excellent news. Hope that kid gets well.

You have the link to the playoff one??

I believe I was the only one that called the Avs with Makar winning Conn Smythe.
- TurdFergeson

Such a bold prediction huh?

there is about a million non leaf fans..waiting, hoping, praying that happens.

waiting to pop out

via GIPHY

- senstroll

I'm obviously insanely biased because I'm a Leafs fan, but with so many fans of other teams praying on the Leafs downfall with Matthews leaving, how (frank)ing incredible would it be if the exact opposite happens?!

Matthews re-signs long term and McJesus leaves Edmonton and comes to the Leafs.

Other than the usual numbers; the ones I think show that Campbell was worse than smith is the high danger scoring numbers. I believe I saw the oilers with quite a few more high danger scoring chances against them than the leafs gave up, yet the leafs gave up far more goals on those chances. The oilers D is worse this year too. I don’t see it going well for Campbell in Edmonton.
- TurdFergeson

Agreed. And I really like Campbell and don't want him to fail. But I feel like Edmonton is setting him up for it.

Nobody is letting me in to a Teams meeting training session.

How longdo i wait before giving up?
- Atomic Wedgie

gotta use the new pass and the fake one you created

Excellent news. Hope that kid gets well.
- Scabeh

Me too, man. (frank) cancer.

Well if I'm biased, I'm not doing it on purpose.

I said last year I had no love for Murray (while he was with Ottawa), I said it was a bad idea to bring him in when rumors surfaced and I'm not changing my opinion on him because he's a Leafs.

You're right, plenty of goaltenders tend to be "unstable" in their performances but I still think there are some that are more reliable than others. Murray both had bad performances and numerous injuries in the last few years so, despite the possibility he could bounce back to his best self, I don't like the gamble.

On the other hand, I actually like the Samsonov one, it's cheaper and gambling on a 25 year old goaltender getting better makes sense to me since very few actually know success very early in their careers.
- Scabeh

I'm not going to change my tune on liking Matt Murray. I don't. His last good season was when he was 24, in 2018-19 - but I will grant him this: he has had playoff success and some fantastic playoff performances. Last year, with .888 goaltending from Mrazek and Kallgren, the Leafs were a .667% team - which is a 109pt team. I am confident that Murray/Samsonov can be better than that, even if they might be at best league average. If Matt Murray can at least be a playoff performer - a clutch guy - then that's what we need.

Jack Campbell was excellent at times, and likeable. He was unable to step up and help the team when the team struggled defensively and his stats likewise suffered. Look, Andersen was a great goalie for 3 years, and then the defense started getting too porous - particularly in the high slot or around the crease. When they made changes to try and close off the rush chances, they were more effective - and so were the goalies. But when those didn't work, the goalies suffered. Andersen, I think, suffered initially from poor team play, and then a loss of confidence and injury. Campbell may have been the same thing, but he was never as good as Andersen.

My honest opinion is that Mike Smith was a much better NHL goalie than Campbell will ever be. Smith is gangly and awkward, but he was getting the job done better than Campbell in almost every statistical measure - on a team with equivalent or worse defense than Toronto. My Oiler friend is the happiest guy since they signed Campbell, but I sincerely have my doubts this is going to work out well for them.