And we could always have another world pandemic…his excuses are endless. He’s taken a bubble team with some decent prospects and made us a bottom 5 NHL franchise and a laughing stock.
- landros 2

He's gonna start using the monkey pox excuse isn't he

Bill Meltzer: Training Camp Day 1: Practice Groups
- bmeltzer

Fletchy the pantload nonchalantly announces Ellis is out for the year.
- PLindbergh31

Poile is smiling ear to ear

https://phillyhockeynow.c...y-injured-chuck-fletcher/

I am fuzzy on the LTIR but if Couturier and Ellis are both on it, can that space be used to take a bad contract to maybe get a prospect or picks to help a team facilitate a trade?

I agree with Jonesy in the nasty knuckles podcast. Right coach at the right time. I think when he went into Tampa, New York and Columbus, they were all irrelevant teams. He leaves and they have a direction.
- SuperSchennBros

Then you have Vancouver...

Career-ending injuries should be removeable from cap considerations.
- Scoob

If insurance is paying the salary, and it's not gonna impact the HRR split, then yeah.

“This year is a clean slate for everybody. John (Tortorella) has made that very clear to the players,” Fletcher said. “We know there’s a lot of skeptics, a lot of people who don’t believe we’re a good hockey team — and our players are eager to prove them wrong. We all are.”

Fletcher said this season “is probably the best opportunity since I’ve been here for young players to step up.”

This clown really is a used car salesman. Already setting up the long game and putting it all on the players, specifically the young players, to salvage this disaster that is upper management's fault.

Fletcher confirming what we all knew, Ellis probably won't play this season.
-Toby Flenderson

Its worse than that, Ellis' career is probably over. This makes the DeAngelo signing seem much more sensible. The only silver lining here for the Flyers is they can at some point trade Ellis' contract to a team that needs to get to the cap floor, as they have done in the past. Ellis' cap hit would be nice to get back for future use. Still, I feel awful for Ellis and the Flyers, he would have been a great defenseman for the Flyers.

I am fuzzy on the LTIR but if Couturier and Ellis are both on it, can that space be used to take a bad contract to maybe get a prospect or picks to help a team facilitate a trade?
- J35Bacher

You actually think Chuck would trade for a bad contract and actually GET something in return for doing it? Ellis and RR kinda prove that Chuck is the only GM in the league that is stupid enough to GIVE other teams assets for bad players and bad contracts.

being out all year, being out 2 years for Ellis would actually good, if they knew it the whole time and could use it to manage the cap. Really the same with Coots, if it is even close, shut him down. Play the season as is

it would actually suck if Ellis is not done for good. I don't wish that on him but coming back after a 2 year layoff and eating 6 mil of cap space

You actually think Chuck would trade for a bad contract and actually GET something in return for doing it? Ellis and RR kinda prove that Chuck is the only GM in the league that is stupid enough to GIVE other teams assets for bad players and bad contracts.
- Tomahawk

All the good GMs are always calling Chuck.

Only thing I could see would be something akin to the Weber for Dadonov swap. But those kind of trades don't really happen in season. Of course, any type of trade involving Ellis' cap hit would require Fletcher to become creative and innovative, things he has lacked over his entire career.

Its worse than that, Ellis' career is probably over. This makes the DeAngelo signing seem much more sensible. The only silver lining here for the Flyers is they can at some point trade Ellis' contract to a team that needs to get to the cap floor, as they have done in the past. Ellis' cap hit would be nice to get back for future use. Still, I feel awful for Ellis and the Flyers, he would have been a great defenseman for the Flyers.
- jd250

Why trade five assets for TDA when you had a similar player in ghost?

chuckles is a Buffon

Allison in group A. What are the odds he makes it through the session in one piece?

All the good GMs are always calling Chuck.
- TobyFlenderson

Guaranteed win, every time.

Why trade five assets for TDA when you had a similar player in ghost?

chuckles is a Buffon
- corduroy

I still hate the move because as you say the assets that were traded, as well as the player IMO is good, but not going to move the needle all that much. The smart move would have been to just play the younger players this season, keep the picks and try to accumulate more 2023 picks.

Its worse than that, Ellis' career is probably over. This makes the DeAngelo signing seem much more sensible. The only silver lining here for the Flyers is they can at some point trade Ellis' contract to a team that needs to get to the cap floor, as they have done in the past. Ellis' cap hit would be nice to get back for future use. Still, I feel awful for Ellis and the Flyers, he would have been a great defenseman for the Flyers.
- jd250

This was made perfectly clear when TDA signed

“This year is a clean slate for everybody. John (Tortorella) has made that very clear to the players,” Fletcher said. “We know there’s a lot of skeptics, a lot of people who don’t believe we’re a good hockey team — and our players are eager to prove them wrong. We all are.”
- StepfordSam

He can't possibly actually believe that. Nor can the players.

Fletcher said this season “is probably the best opportunity since I’ve been here for young players to step up.”


- StepfordSam

This part is true. Young players stepping up won't make the team better this year but will be good for those individual players. They're not going to get a much better opportunity than this.

Allison in group A. What are the odds he makes it through the session in one piece?
- jd250

Zero

It was only 3 years ago that I was the biggest diet hard flyers fan Who couldn't wait for hockey to start every season.
But now it's hard for me to even watch this poop show go down.
The last GM wasted 3+ 1st rd picks that set us waaaaaay back and then they follow that up by giving the most incompetent GM in history this long of a leash
It's hard to cheer while we sit here and watch the titanic go down further and further.
Damm you, feltcher

It was only 3 years ago that I was the biggest diet hard flyers fan Who couldn't wait for hockey to start every season.
But now it's hard for me to even watch this poop show go down.
The last GM wasted 3+ 1st rd picks that set us waaaaaay back and then they follow that up by giving the most incompetent GM in history this long of a leash
It's hard to cheer while we sit here and watch the titanic go down further and further.
Damm you, feltcher
- Bob Habib

I’m with you. How in the world is this team not embracing tanking the next few years. It’s literally falling in their lap and this jack off of a GM hires Torts to try and eek out wins

Allison has a nose for the net and a great motor, unfortunately, his style of play doesn't agree with his body. With Couts out, I get a bad feeling that 34 yr old Anisimov will be one of our centers.

It was only 3 years ago that I was the biggest diet hard flyers fan Who couldn't wait for hockey to start every season.
But now it's hard for me to even watch this poop show go down.
The last GM wasted 3+ 1st rd picks that set us waaaaaay back and then they follow that up by giving the most incompetent GM in history this long of a leash
It's hard to cheer while we sit here and watch the titanic go down further and further.
Damm you, feltcher
- Bob Habib

With the stellar results he enjoyed in Minnesota, who could have seen this coming?

Fletcher confirming what we all knew, Ellis probably won't play this season.
- TobyFlenderson

It's very obvious Fletch knew this all along. He spent money like it was always the case, that he always had that LTIR money available. If there was any chance Ellis could come back and back them into that bad of a cap situation he wouldn't have signed DeAngelo or Deslauriers.

Ellis was never playing and his career is over.

It's very obvious Fletch knew this all along. He spent money like it was always the case, that he always had that LTIR money available. If there was any chance Ellis could come back and back them into that bad of a cap situation he wouldn't have signed DeAngelo or Deslauriers.

Ellis was never playing and his career is over.
- MBFlyerfan

Correct, we knew this months ago

I am fuzzy on the LTIR but if Couturier and Ellis are both on it, can that space be used to take a bad contract to maybe get a prospect or picks to help a team facilitate a trade?
- J35Bacher

I believe so, but they better be sure at least one of them stays on LTIR the entire season or they are screwed. Also the contract taken on should only have a year left for same reason. But that is not the Flyers way....